Supreme Court Justice John Roberts has been left “shaken” by the unexpected public reaction to his ruling in the Donald Trumppresidential immunity case, a columnist wrote Friday.

Slate’s judicial writer Dahlia Lithwick wrote that Roberts was left shocked that Americans didn’t buy his attempt to persuade them that his ruling was not about Trump, but instead focused on the office of the presidency. The court ruled that a president was largely immune from criminal prosecution for official actions.

Lithwick referenced a report by CNN’s Joan Biskupic. He “was shaken by the adverse public reaction to his decision affording [Donald] Trump substantial immunity from criminal prosecution," she wrote.

"His protestations that the case concerned the presidency, not Trump, held little currency.”

  • @Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works
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    Remember folks: political violence is totally justified and not authoritarian a long as it’s not against a Democrat!

    Democrats are the chosen political party! They are better than you! They know what’s best for you! Fuck you for having any ideals that go against their infallible ideology!

    You’re a stupid piece of shit if you aren’t a Democrat! So you deserve violence against you!

    It’s not terrorism, it’s “fuck you, you aren’t a Democrat so you deserve it!”

    • @morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com
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      169 months ago

      Do you feel the same way about medicine and food?

      Democracy, medicine and food all have the same goal, making life better.

      Being against democracy is like criticising someone for eating or using antibiotics.

      Are you just admitting to being a complete moron here?

      • @Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works
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        I feel that the product of someone else’s labor is not a right just because you want the product but don’t want to go through the process of learning how to create that product. Just because it’s a specialized trade doesn’t mean you automatically have a right to it!

    • @sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
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      99% of political violence in this country is from your side, but its a classic republican move to attempt to blame everyone else with the charges of the stuff your side is actually doing itself. So you’re just a tired and not very original liar/troll. Arent there snowflake/safespace threads you should be on? You might get your feelings hurt here or god forbid, talk to a female and that would be a real tragedy because you might go hurt someone because of it. Or kick/kill an animal seems to be the thing your side prattles on about lately isnt it.

      But yes, boohoo you’re a victim and dems are violent. message received.

      • @Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works
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        " your side".

        See, people just assume that if you don’t agree with the general ideology, you are an enemy.

        I tend to agree with most socially “left” ideas, but because I don’t want tax money to go toward wars or abortion as a form of birth control, I am a totalitarian piece of shit.

        There is no nuance anymore. It’s always: “you are either with us or against us” mentality. And there is absolutely NO WAY you can tell me that’s not the case (at least on social media).

        • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          See, people just assume that if you don’t agree with the general ideology, you are an enemy.

          You’re the one that came in with “Democrats bad”. This was about “of course presidents shouldn’t have immunity FFS.”

        • @sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
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          that is an interesting observation. The idea of coalitions has seemingly broken down and its as you said now for everyone-- you’re onboard with whatever the dems or repubs say and do, or you are labeled as supporting the enemy and a memebr of their camp. And no one puts forth a platform or plans like they used to. What a time to be alive eh.

          I do wonder if this is the end of the American government. It sounds alarmist and a little crazy but also plausible. Fundamental architectural peices of our government are breaking down-- like when the supreme court ruled that presidents are not legally unaccounatble and presumed acting legally no matter what they do. Its not just problematic its broken. So now we inevitably get to watch that break spectacularly., standing here with our genitals in our hands. Does that mean seal team 6 shooting Americans like the news said was possible? I dont know. But its legally allowed now, so…?

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    Bullshit.

    If he didn’t expect it then he’s a moron.

    He is not a moron.

  • @n0m4n@lemmy.world
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    Why is there a presumption of immunity? Even when there is clear self-serving corruption, the presumption of immunity takes precedence. This will go down in history as an abysmally bad decision.

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    • abff08f4813c
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      If anything he should be saying this more often, considering some of the other terrible decisions that have come out of his court.

  • Miles O'Brien
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    I really want someone to press one of these people on camera.

    “Donald Trump has promised at multiple rallies to end the democratic process by eliminating the need to vote, and this is extremely dangerous to our democracy, therefore it is an official act of the office e of the president to order a hit on DJT, Seal teams 3 and 5 are en-route now. Such an act is official, and necessary for the country to survive therefore Joe Biden is completely immune from any prosecution.”

    I just want to know for sure what the reaction would be. I’m sure pearl clutching indignation (because someone thought of their idea but flipped the victims around)

    • @mwguy@infosec.pub
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      That is the correct interpretation of the law. We could punish the Seal Team and their chain if command for following the order. But punishment of Biden himself would require him to be impeached.

      And frankly that’s how it should be.

      Obama killed that 16 year old in Yemen. He isn’t liable for that. Bush spied on Millions of Americans without warrants he isn’t liable for that. You can argue they should be; but that’s not how our system is designed.

    • @quink@lemmy.ml
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      It’s really a situation that ought to resolve itself. If the justices vote anything as an official act is perfectly legal, then threaten those justices that voted that way with violence, assassination, nothing is off the table apparently as long as it’s an official act, and reverse that decision with the remaining justices, done and dusted.

      I really don’t see the problem here. It’s all been declared perfectly legal, nothing is off the table, it sends a strong message that this democracy will be maintained by whatever means necessary, and that as long as the president is Democrat at least, then any attempt at an all powerful king or Führer will automatically undo itself. An abrogation of power done through wielding that very power itself would be a beautiful thing to behold.

      In fact, the Supreme Court justices would make a better target than Trump himself even. Trump is a political rival and it could be argued that it’s Biden supporting the election of a candidate from his own party. Meanwhile targetting the Supreme Court justices would be defending basic democracy, fighting for the freedom from a despotic tyrant - the very supposed foundation of the country we’re talking about, changing the composition of the Supreme Court and weakening the powers of the presidency itself, which definitely sounds like official acts rather than those of a candidate or private individual.

  • @EvilBit@lemmy.world
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    I don’t want him feeling “shaken”. I want him to know, deep down, undeniably to the very core of his soul, that he is a blight on humanity. He is devoid of honor and value by any moral measure. His existence on earth and in this society has done vastly more harm than good and humanity would have been better off if he had never been born. I want him to wake up every day and feel that more deeply and truly than he can feel his own breathing.

    Then the rest of the list, too: Trump, Mitch McConnell, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity. Alito, Kavanaugh, Thomas, Barrett. Gym Jordan, Mike Johnson. Steve Miller, the list goes on and on. Selfish monsters that I only wish knew how little they deserve the lives they live.

  • @Etterra@lemmy.world
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    He’s an out of touch rich asshole. I’m less surprised at his shock than I am surprised by him giving a fuck.