• ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    507 months ago

    Demo are gonna lose this election, take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror and say “We’ve gotta get more genocidal.”

  • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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    197 months ago

    I don’t believe the American people are good enough to reject genocide, but I’m willing to be proven wrong.

    Oh, and how is Nate Silver still around? I thought the humiliation of 2016 should have made him crawl under a rock to hide forever

    • SadArtemis [she/her]
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      57 months ago

      I don’t believe the American people are good enough to reject genocide, but I’m willing to be proven wrong.

      Pretty much. Though even then it’s also a toss-up, because the system genuinely has nothing to offer and anyone with sense knows it, Klanmala’s “joy” and genocidal vibes can’t replace the actual material conditions Trump is calling out (though he won’t fix them either).

      A bad country, with a bad society (many good people, but a profoundly and perhaps inherently sick and wretched society), and admittedly they’ll get what they deserve (same counts for my country and the entire west TBF).

    • FungiDebord [none/use name]
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      67 months ago

      I thought the humiliation of 2016 should have made him crawl under a rock to hide forever

      Huh? Silver was literally the only “serious” prognosticator who forecasted a possible upset; everyone else thought it was a no contest (Princeton gave it like a 99.5% “Bayesian” prediction for Hillary).

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        57 months ago

        “Bayesian”

        “Bayesian” in contemporary use means “make up numbers and apply those made up numbers until whatever result you want to happen looks likely, even inevitable.” big-yud

      • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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        47 months ago

        Am I misremembering? Who was the statistician who predicted a slam dunk for Clinton and then later released a post about why he got it wrong?

        • FungiDebord [none/use name]
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          27 months ago

          it may have the Princeton Consortium guy. i think he said he’d literally eat his shoes, or a pile of bugs or something if he lost – i’m sure he at least ate rhetorical crow and had to follow up with a mea culpa post.

    • penitentkulak [none/use name]
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      I don’t get why a 70/30 projection for Clinton should have humiliated him? He was more skeptical of Hillary than a lot of mainstream media. What should humiliate him are his dogshit analysis of political strategy and COVID stuff, not his projections

  • Moss [they/them]
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    1067 months ago

    Honestly I thought this would be a slam dunk for Trump after the assassination photo, then he completely failed to capitalize on that, then I thought it would be a slam dunk for Harris, then she did absolutely nothing to make her likeable and got an endorsement from Cheney. How are both presidential candidates so bad at running for president

      • Goblinmancer [any]
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        437 months ago

        The mask is peeling off, Musk is already blatantly bragging about being the “shadow president” behind Trump like its something to be proud of.

        • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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          97 months ago

          I just assume he’s fully possessed by the ghost of Kissinger. He’s got the inscrutable accent, bloodthirst, and Wormtongue bearing down already, so let’s see what his take on Cambodia is.

        • FortifiedAttack [any]
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          Well he certainly isn’t becoming president the regular way given that he’s not a natural born citizen.

          So “shadow president” is the best he can possibly get.

      • TheLastHero [he/him]
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        277 months ago

        all the years of hysteria and bullshit from both parties and american voters are about to come out probably in record numbers to deliver the same result as a random number generator app

        maybe Americans are smarter than I thought lol

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      537 months ago

      From what I understand, Trump actually got chilled by the attempt, right? Like he actually had to stop and think about the world and his place in it for the first time in his life. I don’t know, I’m sorry to anthropomorphize a republican. I haven’t really been following. But he’s supposedly talented at reading the room, right?

  • homhom9000 [she/her]
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    287 months ago

    I don’t know if I’m online too much, and I’m definitely not smart enough to put things together, but it seems like these next few years will determine the next few decades and neither Trump nor Kamala wants to deal with that. To elaborate, war is on the horizon, the targets are China, DPRK, Iran, and Russia, and the events are already being set in motion. The wars will be both cumbersome, expensive, and potentially unpopular and blame and vitrol will be on whoever wins this next election. So with that said, neither party really wants to win nor deal with whatever turmoil comes from these upcoming conflicts. If Democrats want to keep the very little bit of legitimacy they have, they’d lose the next election , blame Trump for the wars and economic downfalls, and pick up whatever is left in 4-8 years.

    My timelime might be off though.

    • grandepequeno [he/him]
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      197 months ago

      I think both of them REALLY want to be president, Kamala for the sheer prestige of it and for being the first black women to do it, and Trump at this point as a personal interest in staying out of jail. I doubt either of them think war is on the horizon and if they do they probably believe they can avoid it (Kamala by continuing the ukraine war and trump by ending it)

      • homhom9000 [she/her]
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        107 months ago

        I doubt either of them think war is on the horizon and if they do they probably believe they can avoid it (Kamala by continuing the ukraine war and trump by ending it)

        I have to disagree here. Both sides have been at least drumming up support to attack Iran, unsure how this will look at the moment, but they agree that Iran is their “biggest” target and are not shy in saying so. That rhetoric tied with the unwavering support for isntreal gives either side the consent to target Iran.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      127 months ago

      If Democrats want to keep the very little bit of legitimacy they have, they’d lose the next election , blame Trump for the wars and economic downfalls, and pick up whatever is left in 4-8 years.

      I’ve seen some people float this idea. The Democrats are throwing this election so they can get Gruesome Newsome to the White House in 2028.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    227 months ago

    Cool democracy when like 7% of the total population of the entire country determines the outcome of federal elections.

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        There is only one Senate Parliamentarian, and she doesn’t share power unlimited-power

        The wills of the Nine were lost to her long ago.

  • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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    237 months ago

    How the fuck are there still undecided voters, you’d think everyone at this point would have already cemented their opinions but it seems like there’s just a good third of the USA running purely on vibes.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      267 months ago

      Americans are so idiosyncratic that I don’t think you’d get a solid straight answer. My mother is currently in the third of undecided voters. She likes Trump because she despises Mexicans, but she also likes Harris because she feels like a Harris administration would involve a full UK annexation of Ireland.

      Americans are not normal people

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      117 months ago

      Exactly, I don’t really think there are a lot of people who are undecided. People aren’t voting on individual issues anymore, there are two competing narratives regarding what the future of US should look like, and people either subscribe to one or the other. Anybody who is going to vote for Harris was already going to vote democrats regardless of who the candidate is because they think the republicans are destroying the country, and vice versa.

    • Dickey_Butts [none/use name]
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      227 months ago

      My buddy works for the dems currently, and I had made the joke about Dems doing vibes-based-politics a few times, and apparently, yes, they are doing vibes based politicking as a policy. They’re told not to talk about issues but rather just how bad everything will be if she doesn’t win. He tried to request talking points for different policies, and they literally don’t have any.

    • Parzivus [any]
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      147 months ago

      I mean if you’re the average American voter and your only care is “will I benefit more economically under Trump or Harris” the answer isn’t immediately obvious. Anyone who’s a single issue voter on Palestine doesn’t have a super straightforward choice either, although I imagine most of them will vote third party or not at all.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        37 months ago

        You underestimate the power of brainworms, most people are incredibly uninformed when it comes to politics.

    • Dessa [she/her]
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      I’m somewhere between “I’m worried Donald Trump will come for my hormones and force me to destransition” and “I want to see the democrats destroyed”

    • FortifiedAttack [any]
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      Nobody could have predicted that Republicans weren’t going to vote for a Black woman in the presidential elections.

      After all, Republicans are famous for their acceptance of Black people and how well they treat women.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      247 months ago

      Are democrats that clueless about politics? Americans love love LOVE the GOP. They’re more loyal to it than their wives.

      If they actually cared about progressivism, it would be much easier to recruit a bunch of white men allies, register as republicans, hide your power level and claim you’re fash and when you get elected do all the progressive stuff behind everyone’s backs.

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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        217 months ago

        There are a bunch of “moderate” Republicans that don’t like Trump because he’s an incompetent clown, they would rather have a competent fascist in power, I suppose that’s who Kamala is trying to appeal to. But if you ask me, the moderate Republicans will still vote Trump for the party behind him. The Dems have people like Warren and Bernie in their party who might do something pro-labor once in 4 years, so just vote NSDAP no matter who.