• Zymi
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      4710 months ago

      The context was that it was after two medical emergencies at the town hall I guess. It’s still weird but there’s a reason it was this derailed.

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        This is worse than…“Please clap,” by a mile. Jeb was making a joke, but it killed his chances. This should 100% kill his chances at winning…but it won’t. This race makes no sense…

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        2310 months ago

        So… why wouldn’t he just continue afterwards, like what happens at any other public event that has isolated medical emergencies? Or even cancel/reschedule? Heh.

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        That makes no more sense than without context. A regular person would resume the town hall after the emergencies passed, or dismissed everyone. Keeping people there and playing random somes for twenty minutes is the action of a child or an idiot.

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        Still doesn’t really explain it. Before he just said to stop asking questions, they had changed the format to just have a speaker ask him questions after resuming from the medical emergencies. He just gave up on it after only a few questions for no obvious reason

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      Holy shit. It took me a long time to find it, but the video is somehow even weirder than I expected. That’s disturbing.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/14/trump-music-sways-town-hall/

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      “Let’s make it into a music.” ??? And the dog killer next to him with a huge panic-smile for 30 minutes. Local doofuses on stage now thrust into this bizarro . . . meltdown? Senior moment? Looking like they really really want to go home. Wow.

    • @[email protected]
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      Trump is just trying to stay ahead of the game. US politics are very much vibes based. Trump is going to the next level by literally vibing on stage. Who needs a health care plan when you’ve got vibe. And he is genuinely weird because that’s the Republican vibe, his weird vibe is appealing to his base.

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        It would blow my mind even if his opponent had zero qualifications. The fact that she’s actually competent and charismatic just adds to the surreality of the situation.

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          If Trump wins my faith in humanity is fully gone

          Might as well accelerate climate change before we fuck Earth any further. We don’t deserve this planet.

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        Still kinda makes a lot of sense though. Pretty easy to see how the Simpsons, back to the future, etc could see it coming

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    I’ve read other accounts that apparently two people fainted in the crowd before he decided to play DJ? Is that real?

    Everything about this story seems fake and incomprehensible

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      That’s a misleading picture of it. Two people fainted, then paused for a bit, resumed and switched the format to having a speaker ask him questions. A couple of questions in he said “Let’s not do any more questions. Let’s just listen to music. Who the hell wants to listen to questions” and then wrapped up and seemed like he was done, but processed to bob to music for 39 minutes

      The whole town hall is online, you can watch it yourself. Here’s how he spends the last 40 or so minutes https://youtu.be/bDZgox580B0?t=7447

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        Is there any explanation for why the two people fainted though? That seems like a crazy lead lede to bury… Was it random?

        I mean the choice to stand there and play music is funny, but that whole event sounds like it came straight out of Veep

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          From the comments made in the town hall, it sounds like the room itself was hot. Given how trump is usually super late to almost all of his events, people were probably standing for a while in a hot room

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            Lol, how often are people fainting at his events that it’s a complete non-story when it happens twice at one event? And then he thought, “it’s hot in here, let’s just play some music and dance”

            What a strange campaign

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              Sounds remarkably like a fucking Diddy party. Seriously. Dude said he turned up the heat to get people horny or some shit.

        • @[email protected]
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          1010 months ago

          This is in no way meant to be pedantic just something I learned a few years back. In this context it’s “lede”. I often assumed it was lead as in the frontrunner or leader of the story.

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    And the crowd stood there for hours before, waiting on him to show. Did he take any questions at all or just all his shitty playlist and fainting? This guy is pathetic.

  • Wren
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    Isn’t listening to music something that humans do?

  • @[email protected]
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    That’s so fucking weird it hurts. Like genuinely embarrassing to the point I need Shoresy to really express it.

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    It’s like if you went to church, and the vicar said:
    “You know what? I don’t fancy delivering this sermon with moral guidance. Lets just sing 10 hymns in a row.”

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      … Y’all never had that happen?

      “The Lord has other plans for the service today, so we’re going to continue in this state of worship.”

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        I grew up JW, and their meetings were very structured and organized. They do sometimes show videos and such, but a congregation is organized around not one pastor or anything but a whole group of them, any of who could do the main Sunday surmon (and I have seen subs often enough). They also have “ministerial servants” who are I guess basically elders(pastors I guess?) in training, and they often handled a lot of stuff too.

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          That makes sense. This church was ‘non-denominational’, which meant that if they could just have the church band play a jam session and still make money, they would.

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      Honestly? I love hymns. Especially if the congregation sings in four-part harmony. I’d probably enjoy that more than a sermon.

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    People are still falling all over themselves to vote for this turd; to buy a huge stars and stripes decal of him and stick it on the back window of their Ford Raptor next to their Three Percenter decal. Buy a huge flag that says Trump 2024 FUCK YOUR FEELINGS and hang it on a flagpole by the front door to their house, on the street with kids riding their bikes outside.

    And there’s an ever growing uncertainty about whether or not this meatball is going to actually win or not.

    • @[email protected]
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      They don’t care about Trump, he is just a symbol. Trump getting elected legitimizes what Trump represents, and that is hate.

      Success in life means you have God’s (AKA karma/the universe/ect) approval. Becoming the president of the US is the ultimate sign of success and therefore also the ultimate sign of God’s approval.

      Having someone who openly and brazenly hates the same stuff you do get elected president is more than just a sign of approval, it is like a high five from Jesus and all the angels. That means that everything awful that Trump has done or is doing doesn’t turn them off of him, instead it’s just the opposite. His hate filled statements, his ties to Epstein, his obvious desire to fuck his own daughter… he is open and blatant about them, but he is still “winning”. And therefore, all of the awful shit he does, and has done, is something that his followers can attain for themselves.

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        and this is why religion has to go. how the fuck this archaic thought process still dominates modern society is beyond me, but i cannot see a way out of this until religion is stomped into the ground by any means necessary. it is literally one of the top three roadblocks to a humane world.

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          210 months ago

          Unfortunately, I personally believe that religion is a symptom of this type of mentality, not the cause. There is no cure, but teaching basic reasoning skills certainly helps. And that is why conservatives are targeting the education system.

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            i think they’re targeting the education system because it doesn’t teach their religion as the truth. i think it all circles back around to in group/out group behavior and they use their religion to enforce their in group. destroy religion. if they want to cling to it, they can go too.

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      This guy lives on the street behind me. He even has one of those garage projector things with the trump 2024 logo on it that he has up every night and a trump flag for each window of his car.

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        It’s both amusing and depressing to see all the rugged individuals loudly advertising what a vital subject they are.

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        I’ve got two houses facing each other on my street who have been in a fascist flag competition for as long is I can remember. One of them even has an RFK sign next to his Trump yard sign. But yeah what I described above I saw on my way through a neighborhood in my small town. Its distressing!

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      1110 months ago

      Why? They have the easiest job in the world. Literally everything trump does helps him. Get convicted of 43 felonies? Alright! Massive campaign donations are flooding in! Get raided by the FBI? Alright! Back in the spotlight. Nobody has ever held him accountable for anything, and everything he does appeals to his voters.

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      I dunno. If you DGAF about long-term outcomes for anyone, including the job itself, and have zero moral fiber, it’s probably a pretty plush gig. That said, I’d be worried about that paycheck bouncing now and again.

  • @[email protected]
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    He’s trying his hand to become a disk jockey because he realized he can just call himself “DJ DJ”

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      Damn, that’s a great idea.

      New plan, we all still vote for Harris, but DJ DJ gets to play the victory party.

      (And then he still goes to court, is found guilty, and locked up. DJ DJ in J.)

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    Can I just say I’m happy there’s a section of Republicans that think he needs to go, and are actively pushing him out?

    The entire party isn’t a hive mind i.e sharing one mind.

    • Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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      1010 months ago

      The problem is that a normal person can be talked into doing something not in their best interest. A narcissist could only ever be lured away to something bigger.

      • Dragon Rider (drag)
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        310 months ago

        Are you saying that all people with a certain mental disorder aren’t able to choose to be kind?

        • Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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          910 months ago

          That’s an interesting framing device you’ve got there; But yes, in the cases of antisocial personalities and narcissists. They have a markedly diminished capacity for empathy.

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                Drag apologises if you don’t like free will debates. Drag will clarify that drag doesn’t have a non-determinist stance. Drag’s a compatibilist, and therefore thinks there’s no debate to be had over free will, and wishes everyone else would realise it too.

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              “Having the capacity for free will” is not even remotely the same as “being capable of making completely disposessed choices in every single circumstance”. When considering one’s options, different people in different situations give different weights to different factors.

              Consider a person acting under the threat of being murdered if they don’t comply with some demand, like in an armed robbery. The fact that making certain choices, like refusing to cooperate, is in practice nearly impossible for them in this case has no bearing on whether or not they “have the capacity for free will” in a general sense. Likewise someone being manipulated by a person they fell in love with.

              In the same vein, a narcissist is strongly compelled by internal factors to act only in ways that gratify their overinflated ego. While it may conceivably not be 100% impossible for them to go against this compulsion, it is extremely unlikely that it will even occur to them to do so, and given that it does occur to them to do so, it is extremely unlikely that they will choose that course of action. They act in predictable ways for this reason. The weights they place on certain factors are consistently different from average. This is entirely unrelated to the question of “free will”.

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                  You made the original claim without citing any sources or even making a logical argument. I presented my reasoning. There is absolutely no reason for me to go to the trouble of citing sources when you made zero effort at all.

                  Also, facts that are common knowledge and/or self-evident do not require sources unless specifically challenged, and everything I said is both of these things.

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        "trump is the worst. He has no ideas, he's just an awful, bigotted, racist piece of shit. Nobody likes him."
        
        "Oh. Who are you going to vote for?"
        
        "...I guess I have to vote for trump."
        

        What a time to be alive.

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      Not a big enough section. He won the primaries by so much that there might as well have been no other options.

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            So my plan is that we mail rifles to him by post, and he will be so touched by the gesture that he will immediately step down and then blow his brains out.

            It’s a long shot, but I think its worth the effort. Plus, the winner of the rifle he chooses gets a 2-day pass at DisneyLand.

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        Thankfully a lot has changed since then. Back then not even most Democrats thought he was as unhinged as he’s been acting in public since Kamala Harris took over the ticket.

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          The corporate news wasn’t dunking on him as much for - all their reasons. He’s just gone so far off the map even they can’t explain it away now.

        • @[email protected]
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          So, they were okay with the racism, okay with the Muslim ban, okay with the insurrection…but now they’re anti-Trump because he’s acting weird?

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            You’re asking the wrong person. I’ve been disgusted by him ever since I had the misfortune of watching an episode of The Apprentice.

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        Sort of. We forget the earliest primaries were kind of shaky, and Hayley and DeSantis came in with a lot of steam. The catch there is, if you’re anti-trump, those two aren’t much better and might somehow even be worse.