I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who’s so fragile on opinions and things that they’ll scream ‘BAN THEM BAN THEM!’.
I’ve been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc
And I’d stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it’s the same questions I’ve seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they’ll be hours old and some of them can be years old.
I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you’re allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don’t really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.
I don’t know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you’re dealing with 50 people at any given day.
The largest Lemmy instance is the most boring, full of unfunny memes and the worst Redditor culture. What you want is high quality postrs, not simply more people!
As Lenin said: better fewer, but better.
this is a very elitist approach camarad
It is not elitist to reject unfunny garbage from Reddit brains
So you think if something is bad enough it is ok to discriminate again. Meaning you place the bar of disparaging some contend at around average value , so not at high elite value.
That can hold. It still depend on your value judgement of the content in question. Someone could think that lemmy.ml contend is “unfunny garbage”.
The point of a site like this one, is that not one person is the decider. Not you or me. Users vote what is or is not funny, so that the “avergagely” funny systematically go on top. The more people they are, the more the average will mirror the real world population… I think considering the average population to not be “worthy” is pretty elitist. There are a lot of problem in such a site: Hive mind, trolling, mass vote, bot usage… But discriminating against normal human user (even the worse one) doesn’t seems to me like a solution
Uh… I am the decider of what I identify as tired unfunny memes. Nothing wrong with that!
It’s not really elitist, Lemmy was founded as an alternative to Reddit, but Lemmy.world is a repitition of it, not to mention the anti-Marxist pro-zionist moderators. It’s understandable that people leaving Reddit don’t want the same thing as Reddit.
Hum I doubt even the majority of mod are “anti marxist” or “pro zionist”… may be you’re looking at the more active communities, with few mod over them… But for what I read I never had that impression
Here are a few examples of the mods denouncing Socialism and Marxism, and they perma-banned me from political memes for going against the liberal narrative for “misinformation and posturing” despite leaving up the Zionist lie that the Palestinian genocide is a 1000 year conflict. This is also when one of the moderators claimed they weren’t censoring anyone and were incredibly fair on a comment chain calling out their censorship, and refused to elaborate. They would not even tell me how I could edit my comments to comply with their rules.
They defederated from Hexbear “as a last resort-” before ever federating with Hexbear.
In the Lemmygrad defederation thread, there’s unsupported claims of hate speech and calls to violence, which we have to fill in the blanks - the mods are anti-Marxist and anti-revolution, so any Marxist instance is going to fail that test.
The Hexbear defederation thread is somehow worse when they list why instead of leaving it to the imagination. Read some of the top comments, it’s clear that it was anti-Socialist in motive. Real spooky scary zingers listed as evidence in the post like “The West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people living both inside and outside of their imperial core.” This statement is 100% obvious to anyone not stanning the US Empire.
Another example listed is “These organizations constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.” Yet again, they are defederated for being Marxists, and therefore being revolutionary. This is just because they are authentically Marxist, not because posters were mean.
The mods of Lemmy.world are Liberals. Not just any liberals, but “true believers.” Marxism is dangerous to them and so they shut it out, they spelled it out plainly.
Even your leftist meme in Political Memes is getting you called a “tankie.”
At this point I’ve blocked so many .world communities that I don’t see that as much. There are some users who I notice bring the reddit antagonism and I tend to block them too. If I come across a post that is full of reddit quips I just block the whole community. I guess I’ve blocked fewer .ml communities overall.
Good on you! I bet that is actually working out great. I should try something similar with another account.
I don’t know. I do understand the preference of quality over quantity, but there is a limit. There’s a difference between reddit anime discussion, where each episode discussion has hundreds of diverse opinions - most being shitty - sure, but while the voting system is flawed, the interesting comments do tend to rise. and between lemmy’s anime discussions, where an episode has…let me check: between 0 to two comments: https://lemmy.world/c/anime or https://ani.social/c/anime. That is really sad. Not to mention that reddit has so much niche subreddits
Be the change you seek! Most anime communities will let you post episode discussions, and if your instance is active enough you’ll draw viewers sorting by new.
Having enough users for a community is important, I agree! I think that with the current size of Lemmy userbases, communities are often more like topic flags than self-sustaining niches.
Though to pick on Reddit, every time mods crack down on bots their subreddits decrease in posts and comments around tenfold. A lot of the engagement is fake. Mostly to boost numbers for financial reasons but they can also serve as a means of controlling behaviors and narratives.
Idk man, in actually seen here and not drowned out
Little a comment I make that doesn’t have any interactions, I like that
Ya it’s not bad. In the popular areas it seems like I can get away with just commenting on things but smaller communities I need to make a post to make it feel not-dead in there.
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Hard to have enshittification in a FOSS platform.
Corpo shills --> bots --> ads disguised as content --> shit
Again, difficult on a FOSS platform.
I used reddit for two things: news, and niche subcommunities around small hobbies and fandoms.
We’ve got the former here, but I don’t know if we’d ever have enough of a critical mass to sustain the latter. And that sucks for me, because I no longer have a good space for that stuff, but I still don’t ever want to go back to reddit now.
We do, people just have to put in the work. I run two niche communities. Satisfactory and Taylor Swift. Both take time to run and manage, I had to be the sole poster in both for a good long time before other people started jumping in and posting with me. Someone has to be willing to put themselves out there.
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Same here
I personally love the smaller userbase. Less spam, more quality, less screentime, no doomscrolling. Its a win-win in my book.
Plus you get to see the same accounts, the entirety of Lemmy feels like a community
Same. The only thing being niche subs on local stuff. But I remember early Reddit, and that had the same feel. Maybe with a bit more generalized memes because the hivemind was so much more exciting.
But the lack of automated astroturf and shorter comment sections makes it easy more pleasant.
I wish there was more people on not-so-general communities.
If this means less meme or political posts, it would be for the best. However, more specific communities that are not part of a themed instance have very little activity. If I want to learn about ecology and its science, I know I can find many active communities on slrpnk.net, if I want content that matter to Germans, I can go it feddit.org, jlai.lu the same for Frenchs. But if I want people posting picture of nice looking sticks or find !foraging stories or connect with people doing [email protected] I know that I have to be patient and that’s to bad 'cause if people spend less time commenting US election or some shower thoughts, some people will find time and fun interacting in these communities and many others.No.
I have actual internet friends here. People who, based solely on their efforts and words and interactions, align with my own beliefs and ideals and help me temper and adjust accordingly as time goes on. Adults. I’d happily stay like this or with more, similar people, growing slowly and legitimately.
Agreed. The past year has been a great change from other social media personally. I was Reddit only for the prior 7 or so years and Lemmy feels like a time hop back to pre-dystopic Internet days. I approach it more like my favorite forums from the 90’s-00’s.
Less content and users are ok when it leads to more civil engagement’s.
I was digging through old foot lockers from my army days, a while back, and found an old AOL 2.0 CD. I did not toss it into the fire, however. Fond memory friend, thanks
I also have fond memories of those AOL days. When we knew it was real people we were interacting with. What a world of difference now. Glad you made it here! Cheers.
You are on the list now, dawg. Another real person who I shall look forward to conversing with in the future. Exciting! Gotta assign you a color, hmmmm how do you feel about chartreuse?
Fuck yeah. I’m in man. That is damn near my favorite color. You got the touch. Always nice to meet good ass people.
Same here. I find lemmy very relaxing. Multiple times a day I’ll see people admit they misunderstood and upvoting each other. It’s quite refreshing. Sure people still be people but. It feels like we care and aren’t throwing trash on the floor. Whereas Reddit everyone will wipe their ass on your nose.
I firmly believe that the reddit takeover was a part of the grand region destabilization plan to sew discord and resentment in our society by foreign powers. I caution that I am not unaware that it is exactly what or alphabet agencies have been doing to the rest of the world.
Communication among humans is the only defense. Cheers to you, friend! Thanks for contributing to the conversation.
Honestly not a wild conspiracy. The “bad guys” would not want us to socialize/communize as that would only make us stronger in the long run and force them to compete harder.
I would say I miss some specific people or groups, both on Lemmy and on Mastodon, rather than generally “more” people. Friends of mine, certain people I used to follow on Twitter that haven’t made the jump, some communities about specific hobbies, that sort of thing.
Overall, I enjoy the fact that I can get a rough idea about who is who instead of interacting with a mass of faceless strangers.
It just takes time. More passionate posters will come. Reddit is mostly ai-generated at this point.
I wish more technically focused communities had a real home here. I’ll google something, and see that the project I’m working on has a dedicated subreddit where someone asked my question. Wish I could see lemmy in my search results.
Even when I left reddit a year ago, most accounts on the front page were reposts bots. If you spent more than a year or two on reddit, you realize everything on the front page is recycled content.
There is no guarantee that there will be more posters. This place might very well disappear in a few years.
Doubtful. Individual instances, yes, but lemmy overall? No.
Yep
Lemmy seems to have quite a lot of people to be fair. Apparently Lemmy.world has nearly 7,000 users a day, which is quite a lot when you think about it.
One thing I think about is that maybe there are drawbacks to the Reddit-style format of Lemmy. A cool thing about old internet forums is that posts were show in chronological order with no upvotes, which is more similar to a real world conversation. You’d read the most recent posts, rather than the most upvoted posts. This means somebody new to the conversation can have their opinion seen.
The upvoting system means that a small number of posts get nearly all the upvotes and attention, and people who post later have their posts largely ignored.
Maybe I’m wrong but it’s just something I thought about.
“New comments” allows to see the latest comments in conversations. Which is why I’m replying to you, while there are already 97 other comments here.
Sure that is true. Thank you for looking at my post and replying to it by the way. But I was just thinking how some people might just look at the top comments and nothing else. Maybe the upvote system does have some benefits though, like making bad posts less visible.
I imagine it’s something of a difference in expected audience behavior. I would think that, for most people, looking at a few of the top comments and their replies is all the engagement with a post they want to have. So, a voting system facilitates that process by highlighting a few items the hive mind likes, and leaving the rest in relative obscurity. Whereas forum style posting sort of assumes that everyone present in a thread is in conversation with one another, hence chronological organization.
Fair point, different people like different things. It’s interesting that forums are less popular now though. I signed up for Ars Technica’s forum the other day, maybe I should try it out more.
The problem with chronological forum, is that it was a used tactic to post massively new topics to “hide” some controversial topic on the “second page”. Not to say that voting doesn’t have its own problem.
Fair point, but maybe you could restrict an account to only make one thread every 10 minutes or something. And require a CAPTCHA and email or phone verification for new accounts. I guess organising and moderating social media style sites is not a simple task though.
Yes.
I like it. There is good engagement. 10 to 20 comments on a post is enough for me to move on to the next post
register on X site
No, not that one.
Yes, I still moderate a subreddit which is a support group for a particular surgery. There isn’t such a community on the fediverse and the group of people who need this surgery seem to be few in number here too. (Won’t be any more specific about the nature of the subreddit or surgery for privacy reasons, before anyone asks)
I think the Fediverse is the perfect platform for things like what you run. I also think at times how great the fediverse could be for those who’re mentally struggling. Just imagine, a decentralized platform where not only is it separated from the general network, but it’s an instance/server where people can feel safe and private. Also secure too.
You don’t get that feeling on Reddit. People are telling sensitive stories out there for all to see on Reddit and anywhere else. They’re unfortunately setting themselves up for the chance of anybody stumbling upon those tellings and could give them hell for it. Making them worse off than they already were.
