Discord is banned in Turkiye. The reason is some data theft, blackmail, AI montage photos, etc. As usual, our government made the easiest and most illogical move :)

I am looking for an alternative platform to talk and chat with my friends. Which platforms do you recommend?

The ones I tried:

  • Revolt: Voice chat is not stable. They do not accept new registrations.
  • Matrix: Unstable overall.
  • TeamSpeak: ancient interface. We can still try it.
  • XMPP: It has an old interface like TS. Not sure if it has voice channels.
  • Your recommendations?
  • @wewbull@feddit.uk
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    89 months ago

    To those suggesting mumble, are there any good guides out there? The website is shockingly bad for introductory information.

    • @lemonuri@lemmy.ml
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      19 months ago

      its very easy to install via docker as mentioned above. Mumble is very lightweight. You could run the server on your desktop in the background easily or even on your router, there is a package for openwrt. The sound quality is awesome, voice is e2e encrypted and bandwidth should not be a problem either for a couple of people in the chat while you are playing.

    • Corroded
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      99 months ago

      The lack of interest in it even amongst tech communities and bridges (they can link Matrix servers and Discord servers) constantly being down has kept me from giving Matrix a second chance.

      I think it was a Linux gaming community last time that got flooded with hate content after the bridge went down and the Matrix side was left to itself.

    • @pisturko@lemy.lolOP
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      349 months ago

      My client shouldn’t be bugged when I enter a room with a long history, right? Right?

      • @schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
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        339 months ago

        Hey, they’re fixing that. Soon. Really. Any day now. For reals!

        (That’s the #1 thing that makes Matrix utterly unusable for me: if there’s more than like, 10 messages, it’s a game of is-it-broken-or-is-it-just-crap.)

        • @timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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          39 months ago

          Tbf, they actually are. Element X and the sliding sync are ready I think. If the server and client both use it, I think you can use it today. Or maybe the whole matrix 2.0 where that’s all integrated isn’t pushed into main/master yet. Im any case, I read it was ready maybe a few weeks ago.

          • @DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca
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            49 months ago

            Element X is still missing a lot of features, “ready” is an exaggeration I feel

            No Spaces support in particular is a dealbreaker for me

            • @timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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              19 months ago

              Ahh, good point. I have only been “testing” matrix for a year and haven’t enabled sliding sync so haven’t bothered using element x yet.

              Well then theyre right- one day it might get done. 😄

              • @kurcatovium@lemm.ee
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                19 months ago

                It will be done the same year when it’s finally “year of linux”… Sad, but seems to be the case.

            • @mikemrm@lemmy.mrm.one
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              19 months ago

              Agreed. Element X and sliding sync don’t support sso yet, so I’ve been unable to try them :/

              Once those are added I’ll be excited to give them a shot.

              I currently use matrix and element with many bridges as my sole chat interface and it’s very slow. So I look forward to speed improvements.

        • @dan@upvote.au
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          69 months ago

          I’ve found that Conduit handles it a lot better than Synapse does.

    • Guy Dudeman
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      109 months ago

      Matrix is the only discord clone I know about. Does it have massive problems?

        • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          19 months ago

          Eh, that’s a bit of an exaggeration. There is a lot of room for improvement, but it works pretty well today, especially if your rooms are relatively small (e.g. a few dozen people) and you don’t use an overcrowded instance (e.g. not the main Matrix.org one).

          If you can host your own, you can adjust the resources so it works well for you. If you can’t, just avoid the main instance.

  • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Discord is banned in Turkiye.

    Considering the nature of these programs, I think the most important thing to hone in on is: what’s popular in Turkiye? Features and functionality don’t mean squat if no one’s around to enjoy them.

    …tad off topic, but this thread is making me miss xFire. That shit was better 10 years ago (maybe more like 15? idk, I’m old) than Discord was at its peak. …litigated out of existence by Yahoo’s frivolous weaponization of our legal system. This is why we can’t have nice things.

     

    Edit - Fuck you, Yahoo.

    • @jagermo@feddit.org
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      69 months ago

      Ohhh, xFire, that takes me back. To a time of dedicated servers and not that bullshit service game fuckery.

    • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      19 months ago

      Eh, I’m honestly trying to give Yahoo another shake now that Google is so terrible. That said, Yahoo still sucks to use, and it lost most of the charm that it had in the 90s. And BTW, the xFire suit was around 20 years ago, so you may be older than you want to admit.

      • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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        39 months ago

        the xFire suit was around 20 years ago, so you may be older than you want to admit.

        There comes a point where it kinda just blurs together. I’m old enough that when people ask how old I am, I have to stop and think what year it is, and do some quick head math to figure out the answer.

        • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          19 months ago

          Dang, that hits too close to home for me too. I have kids, and sometimes I forget how old I am because I care far more about how old they are that it just isn’t as important to me.

    • @morbidcactus@lemmy.ca
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      9 months ago

      xFire was great, didn’t know the whole yahoo thing

      Kinda liked the separate applications for voice and chat, we used ventrilo over teamspeak for reasons I don’t recall but all of that is just ancient history at this point (was using that like literally 20 years ago)

  • sag
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    119 months ago

    When it got banned? My Friend is from Turkiye. He still used it.

  • @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
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    119 months ago

    On one hand, it’s cool that you have an excuse to ditch Discord. The platform sucks in several different ways and the more people leave it, the better off the world is.

    But on the other - you seem to be aiming for the wrong goal. I know what it’s like to have one thing blocked after the other, so I know for sure that migrating every time something gets blocked is just not a sustainable long-term strategy. You might replace Discord for unrelated reasons… But I strongly advise you to look into censorship circumvention methods. Especially stealthy ones, like they use in China. Set it up for your family and friends (maybe distributing the server costs between them). You will need it.

  • mox
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    Matrix is probably the closest to Discord overall. If Element is bugging out on you, it might be worth trying other clients. Nheko worked well when I tried it, for example. Do note that the matrix.org homeserver is sometimes overloaded, so if you’re having responsiveness issues, choosing or running a different homeserver will probably clear them right up.

    Mumble.info is great for voice. If your text chat needs are pretty basic, it might be a good fit. I don’t think it saves message history.

    XMPP is a protocol, not an app. If you you saw an interface you didn’t like, you could always just use a different client. I don’t usually recommend it, since setting it up with all the features people usually expect is a bit complicated and error-prone, but it would probably be fine among a small group of friends if one of them has tech skills. I don’t think it offers voice, at least not in any widely-supported way.

    • @ProjectPatatoe@lemmy.world
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      29 months ago

      Our group uses mumble for voice and discord for text and backup voice or external voice. The voice quality is better, free, faster on mumble. Extremely low server requirements. It technically saves chat history but as server logs, not for the client.

        • Ziglin (it/they)
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          19 months ago

          For that kind of thing I use jitsi, works great and I have access to a sort of private instance that I use occasionally. Works for just voice too but it can be a little unreliable (the last two times I had a weird issue where the others suddenly couldn’t hear me and vice versa but reloading fixed it) so something else might be better for that…

    • @everypizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      19 months ago

      How? A few weeks back I had to deal with getting spammed with invites to CSAM rooms. I’ve also been harassed many times on it. And not to mention lack of moderation tools and state issues.

      • foremanguy
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        29 months ago

        Do not have really the problems you mentioned,but sadly it’s more a problem of community than service …

  • @plofi@lemmy.world
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    39 months ago

    Guilded is really similar to Discord, but Roblox bought them so you need a Roblox account to use it. It’s great for voice chat.

    • @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
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      59 months ago

      I don’t think it’s great to change one walled garden for another. If you are willing to change, better switch to a protocol instead. Even if there’s something wrong with the server, witching between different instances is much easier than between entirely different products.

      • @plofi@lemmy.world
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        19 months ago

        I agree, but after I tried three FOSS ones that were hard to set up and had very bad voice quality I gave up and tried Guilded which is working great. The most important feature I need is ability to locally mute people which not many apps have for some reason. What would you recommend I use?

    • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      29 months ago

      Isn’t it generally better if you use a smaller instance/host your own? Most of the complaints I’ve heard have been on the busier instances.

      That said, I only use it occasionally to catch up on dev updates.

      • @everypizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        19 months ago

        My current instance has ~160 users, and it’s okay. I once used a friend’s instance, where I was the 2nd user. It was very bad. That might in part be the fact that it was running Conduwuit though.

  • @InFerNo@lemmy.ml
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    69 months ago

    KiwiIRC is a web based IRC client. Does not have voice chat afaik, but since it’s IRC it’s very lightweight and had a low entry barrier.

  • @twoface@sh.itjust.works
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    169 months ago

    Teamspeak 3 is ancient, but works.

    However there is a new version of Teamspeak (TS5) which is much closer to Discord and looks much nicer. You could give that a try

    • @Lennny@lemmy.world
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      39 months ago

      There was a TS4?

      There’s guilded, have an old guild leader in tech that always tries to get us to be guinea pigs for different voips, and that one isn’t terrible if discord isn’t available.

      Ventrilo, is that even around anymore?
      Mumble wasn’t too bad,

          • naticus
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            59 months ago

            I use it on mobile and desktop regularly without sync issues. Has it always had that problem for you? I generally always get messages at the exact same time without fail.

            • Rolling Resistance
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              19 months ago

              I don’t have it on desktop anymore, but if I install it now, the desktop app won’t have any conversations that I have on my phone. I use a Matrix bridge instead that doesn’t forget messages.

              • naticus
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                49 months ago

                Correct, it will only have all future messages. Nothing historic. But it should sync literally everything going forward.

                • Rolling Resistance
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                  39 months ago

                  Well, I don’t like this. The idea of sacrificing messaging history in favour of illusory security gains doesn’t sit well with me. Same goes for Signal backups.