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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)
Not a sneer, but perhaps interesting even if less so as we are focusing a bit less here on the Rationalists. Twitter thread on race science bullshit popularized on the various Rationalism extended forums.
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I keep wanting to give zed a serious go (even just to try it out because it looks interesting) but there’s some design decisions that are raisedeyebrow.gif and feel like a very telling thing about the mindset of the devs
fresh install:
- at start, it immediately attempts to start making connections to github copilot and a couple of other network sources. no user prompt, no indication that it’s going to be doing this, no indication that it is doing it
- figuring out how to turn said undesired features off was not documented and just by the by semi answered elsewhere (also: I applied those settings and it still did a bunch of shit, so I had to pull the repo and scratch through it myself…)
while I’m certainly from the older guard of crotchety, I still think it’s fucking reasonable to ask the user before your software goes off and does shit. you don’t even have to overload them with requests, you can make it granular with a customize button. this shit has been solved in fucking windows application installers since the goddamn 00s
christ I’m gonna stay angry at the last decade for a long time
tangentially, I think about this thread every so often too. this just made me think of it again.
I don’t think there’s a hell of a lot there that we don’t already know and discuss at length, but it’s cool to see Abby Thorne’s new video at Philosophy Tube get into surveillance capitalism, neo-reaction/tech fascism, and how much of the discussion historically on and around social media misses the point.
It might be a decent overview reference for anyone in your life who isn’t in as deep as we are, since you could do much worse in ~40 minutes.
Look out, professional Nix crybaby Jon Ringer is back with his fork.
In other news, I have my own as well called Borkfan, absolutely not a ban fork due to my having threatened multiple people, but instead dedicated to the idea that a technology that lacks chud approval must necessarily not be in the true hacker spirit.
literally the exact crowd shitting on the mere rumor of a Lix NixOS fork are clapping for this like trained seals. and I don’t think this getting announced right after those rumors is an accident — it gets Jon the most attention for his low-effort bullshit and might even let him hurt another fork by way of community fragmentation
something I’m confused about is, is Ringer even effectively banned anymore? I stopped monitoring when someone with mod privileges unbanned him from a bunch of Nix community spaces. is he back to banned, or is this just a continuing tantrum from Jon having Release Manager stripped from him and given to someone who could do that incredibly thoroughly automated job without stirring up a fucking hate mob?
there is one silver lining: for once, I don’t have the cognitive load of another Nix fork to carefully consider switching to. there’s no way in fuck I’m using Ringer’s fork under any circumstances, and my brain already filed it away under “weird name, starts with an E, don’t remember the rest” seconds after I closed the tab
You’re right, Borkfan is too easy to remember, my not-ban fork is now called Frabnok.
> FRABNOK LANTERN Your lantern explodes into a rant about the wokes, killing you instantly. *** You have died *** Your score is 0 out of a possible 10 points, in 1 move. This gives you the rank of Release Manager.
Is their branding dominated an anime girl of ambiguous age?
Just guessing, I promise I haven’t checked.
If your Wikipedia page contains as many random arXiv preprints for references as the “prompt engineering” article, consult your physician.
I was expecting a spicier Talk page :(
I just tagged the article and added a talk page note
Annoyed Redditors tanking Google Search results illustrates perils of AI scrapers
A trend on Reddit that sees Londoners giving false restaurant recommendations in order to keep their favorites clear of tourists and social media influencers highlights the inherent flaws of Google Search’s reliance on Reddit and Google’s AI Overview.
Anyways, personal sidenote:
Beyond putting another blow to AI’s reliability, this will probably also make the public more wary of user-generated material - its hard to trust something if you know the masses could be actively manipulating you.
there used to be a shitposting fb page called “places in warsaw you had no idea about because they don’t exist”. glad that somebody weaponised that concept
In other news, Disney’s apparently planning some kind of “major AI initiative”.
Whatever it is, I’m expecting large-scale boycotts/strikes to kick off as a result of it, alongside AI’s lack of copyright protection getting exploited to troll the shit out of Disney.
Wasn’t Rise of Skywalker already written by a deficient AI of a Gonk droid?
No, it was written by a Star Wars fan. Can’t blame you for confusing the two, though - they’re equally dumb
‘They wish this technology didn’t exist’: Perplexity responds to News Corp’s lawsuit
“There are around three dozen lawsuits by media companies against generative AI tools. The common theme betrayed by those complaints collectively is that they wish this technology didn’t exist,” said the Perplexity team in the blog. “They prefer to live in a world where publicly reported facts are owned by corporations, and no one can do anything with those publicly reported facts without paying a toll.”
I wish the AI bros at Perplexity and elsewhere a very cope and fucking seethe.
Okay, quick personal sidenote:
With how much misinformation, manipulation, outright theft and other horrific shit this AI bubble has caused, I suspect we’re gonna see some attempts at an outright ban on AI. How successful they’re gonna be, I don’t know, but at the bare minimum it’ll enjoy some popularity on the political fringe.
They prefer to live in a world where publicly reported facts are owned by corporations, and no one can do anything with those publicly reported facts without paying a toll.
Yea, down with corporate IP trolls, information gatekeepers and idea landlords! Anyway, what was Perplexity’s business model again?
On one hand, big “let them fight” energy. On the other hand this is a bit more Alien v Predator than Godzilla v Kong. No matter who wins, we lose.
idea landlords: making sure that no one is living rent free in someone elses head
Burglars telling homeowners to cope and seethe when questioned about their possession of crowbars at time of arrest.
You know you’re dealing with serious people when the dogwhistles come out.
they wish this technology didn’t exist
this is supposed to be invalidating, but like… yes? what’s wrong with that?
Quick update: The open letter on AI training (https://aitrainingstatement.org/) has reached 15k signatures:
Update on the character.ai lawsuit:
Gizmodo just reported on the story - in addition to the suicide that kicked this litigation off, they’ve also discovered an hour-long screen recording where a test account (self-reported as thirteen years old) gets sexted relentlessly by the site’s chatbots.
So, in addition to driving one specific teen to suicide, character.ai is also facing accusations that their bots are sexually harassing children.
I have something that I want to post to MoreWrite and this is very convenient for my story
Glad I could be of help.
Character.ai is getting sued thanks to one of their users killing himself, and The New York Times is talking about it (there’s also a piece by Gary Marcus talking about a previous incident if you’re interested).
Like the copyright situation I previously mentioned, I suspect this is also gonna make potential investors wary of investing in AI post-bubble. Even if you manage to convince investors that you won’t get DMCA’d into oblivion, they’re still gonna be wary of the potential for a Dasani-level PR nightmare.
Of course, that’s assuming that Section 230 protects you from being held liable for what your autoplag does - if Ms. Garcia, whose son’s suicide prompted this entire mess, succeeds in court, the legal precedent set means you’re likely gonna have to worry about being sued if/when someone ends up injured/killed/defamed/otherwise fucked up because of its output…
Skimming the reddit thread in search of general public sentiment about this, but unfortunately mostly just found a greatest hits compilation of very gross comments.
According to these very smart people, parents should expect your teenager to die as an outcome of not being perfect people 24/7, technology can never be at fault even when it literally tells you to commit suicide in coded language, and it’s actually impossible to understand which parts of society are causing kids to be depressed, so we must take it as a given that we can’t do anything about it. I regret having done this to myself.
This is nothing, The characterAi subreddit was in full meltdown earlier.
KendrickZitron dropped - its mainly focusing on Prabhakar Raghavan’s recent kicking upstairs, and Google’s bleak future.Main highlight was this snippet:
I am hypothesizing here, but I think that Google is desperate, and that its earnings on October 30th are likely to make the street a little worried. The medium-to-long-term prognosis is likely even worse. As the Wall Street Journal notes, Google’s ad business is expected to dip below 50% market share in the US in the next year for the first time in more than a decade, and Google’s gratuitous monopoly over search (and likely ads) is coming to an end. It’s more than likely that Google sees AI as fundamental to its future growth and relevance.
Really enjoying watching Ed level up from week to week. The Zingularity is Near.
As the AI bubble weakens, he only gets stronger.
I think this is the second or third time that either Ed or somebody on his Discord reminded me about Shingy
Man, it’s almost like hollowing out the core value centers of a company in search of short-term growth will leave an empty dying husk that can neither serve in new markets nor continue to exist in their previous niche.
If only there had been some kind of warning about the consequences of this management style. Hey, how’s GE doing these days again?
It’s not that the money is unaware this kills the business. They know. They don’t care because their process is business-agnostic. By design and intent they extract value from the business like it was a capri sun pouch and when line no longer goes up, it’s discarded for the next one.
But paying executives in stock options helps “align incentives” or whatever
In other news, there’s been a statement on AI training that’s racked up over 10k signatures, which is unsurprisingly lambasting the rampant stealing that went into creating the autoplag machines:
Now, I’m way too much of a fan of sidenotes, so I’ll whip one out:
Beyond simple content theft being publicly lambasted, I suspect that even licensed use of artists’ work for gen-AI will ignite some controversy - if Eagan Tilghman’s run-in with controversy last year is any indication, any usage of gen-AI, regardless of context, will be met with hostility.
A direct link: aitrainingstatement.org.
poor Musky lost custody. Couldn’t handle Grimes, now he mangles rhymes.
We’re gonna have enough material for a Elon diss track at this rate
Kendrick Lamar has an opportunity to do the funniest possible thing
Elon’s managed to stay off of K-Dot’s radar so far. We wanna see the diss, we need Elon to start some shit
just imagining what happens the day his companies get taken away from him
It doesn’t even make any sense 😭 surely “secular religion” and “childless hedonism” are not the same thing??
Religion is the opium of the masses
And I’m increasingly scared they’re gonna kick our asses
Maybe it’s time for all those mugs
To shut up and start hitting drugs
I can pull finer bars out my arse than this fucking farce
This is probably Grok - creativity from him’s pretty sparse
Choom thinks he’s DOOM, but he won’t beat him any time soon
With how much crack this whack goes through, he’ll forget this before noon
(I’m no MF DOOM, but anything I can put out will beat this artless twat any day)
"Life, it never die
Women are my favorite guy."
Wonder what is up with the folks and them getting into rhymes/poetry. Jordan B Peterson does something simple (his pinned tweet as example here. But we know he fried parts of his brain using the russian coma rehab method.
And it isn’t even the Sinterklaas period yet. No need for bad rhymes. (I’m also suddenly reminded of all the people who tried to ‘rap’ their messages in the late 90s).
Well my name is Jordan and I’m here to say/ we’re just like lobsters in a major way
“cooked, and (politically) red as fuck”?
Parents Sue School That Gave Bad Grade to Student Who Used AI to Complete Assignment
An old and powerful force has entered the fraught debate over generative AI in schools: litigious parents angry that their child may not be accepted into a prestigious university.
The tabloids are gonna be going nuts over this.
