Why do people even care what a gross white supremacist thinks?
because if a gross white supremacist starts saying/doing things I agree with I need to evaluate if he’s changing or if I’m changing.
This. Actually this. This right here.
There’s an argument to be made about broken clocks, but sometime the answer is simpler than that. “Have I become the asshole?” It’s not fun to run into that, and I have on multiple occasions. You have to be aware of your biases, and check them on occasion in case they’ve drifted while you’re not paying attention.
Nobody is immune to propaganda or above error, particularly those who believe they are
The funniest part about this is I had no idea David Duke was alive. He was the main villain of BlackKKlansman. Imagine living to see yourself get written as the villain of a hit movie.
Also, mandatory fuck David Duke and Jill Stein.
BlackKKlansman
TIL
Weird.
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He is not just any wizard. He is grand.
The grandest
And we all know Lemmy likes wizards.
I put on my robe and wizard hat.
I see a bloodninja reference, I upvote. 🤷
His hat is whack
A piece shit likes the smell of their own.
Yes racists, please vote for Jill
I can’t laugh heard enough about this.
Unfortunate.
Luckily, I can still hear laughs.
ERMAGHERD dat typo!
Someone should cross post this to a certain Satanist’s page.
Fake* Satanist
What I suspect is happening here is that an endorsement of this nature can be seen as a “kiss of death” - folks who might otherwise vote for a candidate might be turned off once they hear this news.
Last time it seems the GOP candidate got the endorsement and lost, so to prevent a “kiss of death” effect in this election he is endorsing a spoiler in order to continue drawing votes away from Harris, while hoping to retain votes for the GOP candidate, causing the election to swing to a GOP win.
Remember, as the GOP guy famously said, “A vote for Stein is a vote for me!”
(Now, will this strategy actually be effective? I have doubts that enough people pay attention to this group for it to be relevant.)
Who the hell would change their vote from Harris to Stein based on an endorsement from a former Ku Klux Klan leader?!
No one. Rather, it’s a call to energize white nationalists groups to indirectly support the GOP candidate, while avoiding the kiss of death for him.
If this doesn’t really seem to make too much sense, it’s because it doesn’t. I doubt the folks behind this thought it through that well…
Hahaha holy shit
And Putin endorsed Harris. These people know that their endorsement is a vote against that candidate, not for them.
Everyone’s so focused on putting Jill Stein down so that those votes go to Harris. Any ideas on how we can get tiered voting implemented so that third parties are viable choices instead of being the same as not voting at all?
Start local. Where I live we have ranked choice voting for mayor.
If you want a third party, then vote for them for state government or something local. Green is not a serious party because they have no local elected politicians and cannot win the presidency. We’ve already been through this when Ross Perot successfully knocked out Bush in 92, Dole in 96, and Nader knocked out Gore in 2000. You can vote for whoever you want but when you see who’s behind her campaign, it’s clear she’s being promoted in order to hurt Harris.
Except the Putin one was a joke apparently https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/6/russia-backs-kamala-harris-putins-history-of-us-election-endorsements
The KKK one not so much…
Your link does not say it was a joke. It only suggests it was.
And Harris is proud of her Dick Cheney endorsement. Which she worked hard to receive by appeasing the war crime blood lords.
That’s not why dick chose her lol
He clearly stated he chose her because he sees Trump as a dangerous dictator. And Trump is in no way denying that he won’t be.
Trump couldnt even remain stable during his rally without threatening to sue everyone there because his mic cut out, and he told them all he wouldn’t pay (he fucks up constantly though, and people should hold him to the same standard as he holds his contractors)
He’s literally doing dictator shit in front of an audience now
He is no longer hiding it because he thinks the election is already decided
Dude endorses Trump back to back for past two election cycles and suddenly swings as far as he can in the opposite direction? Seems believable /s
Best endorsement dems could hope for, really.
Not a good look for Jill Stein.
Depends on how she reacts to it. If she takes him campaigning, it’s definitely bad. If she rejects the endorsement it’s something different.
she already rejected it before the article was published. it’s in the article
Yeah, I was making a rhetorical point to contrast to how a certain someone treated an endorsement by a war criminal.
As opposed to all those favorable looks she’s been accumulating.
Is anything??
Why? She has nothing to do with him, and the party even said so. From the article:
Stein’s campaign says it wants nothing to do with Duke, the former American Nazi Party member
Stein’s campaign manager, Jason Call, disavowed the endorsement and called Duke “trash.”
I agree, but did you say the same when racists endorsed Trump?
An endorsement doesn’t mean the candidate becomes the same as the person endorsing them. Plenty of questionable people endorse candidates from all parties. I try to judge a candidate based on their own actions, not on the people who endorse them.
Keeping fighting for the death of democracy brother! Don’t let these people with consistent beliefs get you down!!!
Hmm… I wonder why a certain user who’s been posting non-stop about third-party candidates for the entire lifespan of their account chose to ignore this particular article. One would assume it’s important for the voting public to know about this, no?
Who are you referring to? I’m debating some “Harris needs to earn my vote. So it’s her fault if Trump wins.” idiots right now.
Unfortunately if I name this person there’s a good likelihood this discussion gets removed since the rules prohibit calling out bad faith actors, even the painstakingly obvious ones. So I’ll leave you with this: you needn’t look far to find that which you seek.
I’ve had a tag on the user I think you’re referencing for a minute now. It’s quite helpful.
Hmm. I can think of someone who was recently accused of running two accounts. Something like bad mythical figure name.
Who got accused of running two accounts?
Maybe a play on “omnipresent zealot”
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You think that articles from Newsweek, AP News, CNN, The Hill, USA Today, and Reuters are “Russian propaganda?!” Really?
And why would I get paid to post news articles from news sites to Lemmy of all places?!
Absolutely no one likes you. Go away.
Well, if no one likes me, then shouldn’t be a problem for me to post here. And you can always block me too. Thanks! :)
I don’t have to explain anything to you ;)
You’re making .ml look sane.
Keep up the good work 🤡
My life got much better after I blocked that account a few weeks ago
=)
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Who is it?
Because it’s already been posted here and this community doesn’t allow duplicate posts. It’s also been posted in Politics Unfiltered.
I don’t know what user you’re referring to, but I’ve commented in this thread. And I posted another article referring to David Duke and Jill Stein. https://lemmy.world/post/20893592
I thought it was interesting, so I posted it. Thank you! :)
Ah so you were late to /c/politics. Well I suppose we all have busy days at work sometimes. You’ll get ‘em next time champ.
Wait, I thought Lemmy was under the impression that I post every 17 minutes, 24 hours a day?! And that I’m a team of people. Oh AND that I’m a bot.
So if all that’s true, how was I having a “busy” day at work?!
Woah hey now all I said was you probably had a busy day at work. A little weird to bring up bots and teams of bad actors dude, chill.
People have said that about me. So I’m just wondering how all of those diverse viewpoints can be correct if I am at work and having a busy day.
I don’t recall having brought any of that up? At any rate, it seems like whatever your occupation is, it’s pretty stressful. That sucks.
I didn’t say that you brought it up. I mentioned that many on Lemmy say that about me.
My job isn’t stressful at all. Thanks, friend! :)
No, “Lemmy” isn’t under that “impression”. Are you trying to say your profile page is wrong, or that math is?
Look at you deflecting.
You average a submission every seventeen minutes and thirty-eight seconds and that’s public information.
If multiple people are guessing that you’re a bot or a paid propagandist you may see that as a sign you’re terminally online and should go explore the real world for a bit.
Maybe you could develop a sense of personality and lose the burden of supporting a failed style of governance
🤷 Idk, I’m not your dad.
how does this article impact anyone’s support for a 3rd party?
It’s almost like people argue in bad faith on the internet. Fancy that!
Omg 😱 you might be onto something!
Or some people just don’t agree with the echo chamber. Just because they don’t change their minds and vote differently than others, doesn’t mean it’s in bad faith. Thanks! :)
True, some people agree with former KGB agents.
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Right?! Thanks, friend! :)
Here’s your chance. Defend the article.
Dude, I didn’t even post the article. Maybe you can ask the person who did? Did you even look at the name of the poster?!
And what is there to “defend”? NBC News wrote an article that David Duke endorses Stein. I didn’t write it, produce it, edit it, publish it, or even post it to Lemmy. I have nothing to do with this article being on Lemmy.
Exactly what part do you want defended? That NBC news talked to someone? I’m unclear on what you’re trying to ask me to do. Thanks!
You constantly try to defend Stein and 3rd party voting. YOU posted the same exact article, remember, you linked to it. So I was giving you a chance to respond to the article on here that had traction vs your post that had zero. You didn’t, so that’s all I need to know.
What is there to respond to? I didn’t write the article. And I didn’t post “the same exact article” either. There is no rule that we have to “respond” to articles that we post or don’t post.
This article reported some political news. This is a political news community. So people post political news articles.
Not sure what sort of “gotcha” moment you are looking for here. Are you trying to imply that just because some racist wacko inserted himself into the news and said that he supports Jill Stein, that it has anything to do with me?!
Or what is it that you’re looking for from me? I don’t understand.
Dude, I didn’t even post the article.
Looks like I’m 2 for 2 already
Bingo!
They’re ecstatic to be on the same team as Duke, but as usual everything they say is meaningless bullshit with about the same value as a 10 second long wet fart
Stein’s campaign says it wants nothing to do with Duke, the former American Nazi Party member
Stein’s campaign manager, Jason Call, disavowed the endorsement and called Duke “trash.”
As funny as it is, I think really that is where it can stop. Someone abhorrent said they support someone, that person said, no. No means no.
And yet Duke agrees with her goals. Totally meaningless /s
Thanks! :-)
I don’t know about you, but I’m saving this post for future citations.
Solid plan.
and be sure to save this too:
Stein’s campaign says it wants nothing to do with Duke, the former American Nazi Party member
Stein’s campaign manager, Jason Call, disavowed the endorsement and called Duke “trash.”
Of course Lemmy (which is leftist when it comes to politics because “left is the good guys!!1!1”) cares so much about something so stupid.
Hey yall, David Duke endorses people but that doesnt mean theyre in cahoots lol. Sheesh this is pathetic.
How long until she drops out now? Jr dropped out soon after Rogan endorsed him.
She won’t. She’s a Dem spoiler. That’s her purpose. RFK was supposed to be that, too, but he wasn’t pulling enough Dems and was pulling too many Rs. So, he dropped and they tried to pull back those Rs with an endorsement.
Do you really think she’ll drop out with only 3 weeks to go?! Ain’t gonna happen, friend.
