• UlyssesT [he/him]
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    622 years ago

    “They aren’t sending their best” used to be mask-off messaging that seemed too far. yea

  • @[email protected]
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    372 years ago

    This guy is just trying to out-asshole the orange king of assholes. It’s so weird to see people trying to gain popularity by trying to prove how horrible they are.

  • style99
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    592 years ago

    Before anyone calls this hyperbole:

    Ron DeSantis recently suggested that he would be open to ordering drone strikes on Mexican drug cartels and migrants, whom he accused of carrying drugs over the border. “We’re authorizing deadly force. They try to break into our country? They will end up stone-cold dead,” he said, and he’s not alone. Trump, Reps. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) and Mike Walsh (R-FL), Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR), and Trump’s former deputy secretary of homeland security Ken Cuccinelli have all proposed various military actions in Mexico, up to and including sending in ground troops.

      • @[email protected]
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        182 years ago

        Russia and their ilk are the only ones that are pro war in Ukraine. Libs are pro Ukraine, which involves defending them from the Russian invasion. If at anytime, Russia agreed to (and actually did it) pull all troops including the land they stole, almost all libs would be happy.

        On the flip side, DeSantis wants to start a war and be the aggressor. Support of that is fucked up and deranged, which is why a large number of conservatives support it.

        • @[email protected]
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          I’m pointing out republican hypocrisy in calling the left pro war and also wanting to invade Mexico, which was the implication with “in the same breath.”

          • @[email protected]
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            32 years ago

            Pretty sad that there are so many Pro-Russia shills on this site that this seemed like the least likely interpretation of your comment…

      • @[email protected]
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        122 years ago

        Are you honestly that confused? Do you really think this is some kind of gotcha?

        Russia invaded their smaller neighbor for a made up reason.

        DeSantis is suggesting invading our smaller neighbor for an equally made up reason.

        We don’t like either scenario. I would be just as supportive of Mexico getting military aide from other nations as I am about Ukraine getting military aide from other nations.

        • NaN
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          22 years ago

          They are using republican talking points to criticize DeSantis.

      • fear
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        192 years ago

        Are you really pretending there’s no difference between assisting a country in defending itself from an aggressor, and starting your own war as the aggressor?

        • @[email protected]
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          62 years ago

          My comment is calling out republican hypocrisy in calling the left pro war, not literally making that point.

          • @[email protected]
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            Sound comment, but unfortunate ambiguous meaning got punished by people who gave you no leeway. In reddit I got a 3-day ban for something like this. Lemmy for the win.

    • JJROKCZ
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      And they think Mexico will just be ok with us drone striking homes that these idiots think are cartel hideouts? These racists fucks would glass all of Mexico claiming anyone brown is cartel

      • NaN
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        32 years ago

        They would relish Mexico trying to defend its sovereignty as a chance to destroy another country and show the world how big their ego is.

    • @[email protected]
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      Yikes.

      DeSantis is trying to run to the right of trump. Recall that trump began his 2016 campaign by saying

      ”When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people”

      I suppose advocating for war crimes is one way to campaign to the right of trump on border security.

      Granted trump also campaigned by calling for war crimes back in 2016, so this isn’t entirely novel for a GOP presidential candidate:

      The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don’t kid yourself. When they say they don’t care about their lives, you have to take out their families.”

      But on the other hand, DeSantis was a navy lawyer at Guantanamo tasked with making sure the soldiers followed the law. And we know how well that went.

      As a young navy lawyer, the Republican was posted to the notorious prison camp. What he did there – and his role in the investigation of three deaths – remains controversial

      In summary, when it comes to their policy on war crimes among the top republican candidates for president, Trump talks a big game but DeSantis has the actual experience to back up his “promises”.

      The fact that I could quickly write up this analysis with sources is a damning indictment of these candidates, their supporters, and their enabling political party. What a fuckin’ shitshow.

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      And to think somebody can be such a fucking idiot that they make Trump look almost normal. Is this some sort of trick like in France, where Zemmour’s antics were used to make LePen more palatable? Looks like it.

    • @[email protected]
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      312 years ago

      He gets off on cruelty. I guess his time inflicting suffering at Guantanamo wasn’t enough, though.

      • BOMBS
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        172 years ago

        Why would anyone ever want the commanding officer of a torture prison to run their country?! What do they think he’s going to do?? It drives me crazy that anyone would want this, let alone even be okay with it.

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          52 years ago

          One of the biggest states in the country has already elected him right up to his term limits too… We’re absolutely fucked as a country

  • @[email protected]
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    1332 years ago

    This is literal insanity.

    Are they going to put Mexican Americans in internment camps next?

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    Haven’t we learned our lesson about unprovoked wars after watching East Europe for the past year and a half??

    @emizeko - not sure if you’re a Russian troll or a poor American doing the real fascists’ work for them–but I’m sorry for you my friend and hope the best for you. If you missed it in my other comments, I’m currently serving in the US military and am very confident that Western media at large is on the money, and that a novice OSINTer could refute the fanfic you posted. Best wishes.

  • NotAFuckingBot
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    102 years ago

    If he wants to fire the first shot, launch him across the Rio Grande with a trebuchet.

    • BOMBS
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      132 years ago

      Trump is actually destroying DeSantis in the polls at 54.5% (Trump) to 14.8% (DeSantis). I have no idea how any Republican can lose to Trump. They don’t even need a platform. All they have to do is go out there and call Trump out on all his bs. Point out he’s failed businessman, make fun of his corny superhero NFTs, show how he sucks up to Putin, emasculate him conservative-style for wearing make-up, say that he will probably die of old age within the next 5 years…call him a rapist! That’s it. Just do it.

      • @[email protected]
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        102 years ago

        Most of Trump’s bullshit is why they like him. You can’t attack someone for things his supporters approve of.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        Have you ever heard translations of Russian, especially Soviet, propaganda? The lies are absurd. They conflict with reality to the point many viewers have firsthand experiences that conflict with them. But they work, because people are trained to believe them - the unbelievable aspect of them makes them far more effective in a weird quirk of psychology

        That’s the real reason why you can’t attack Trump from the right - he’ll lie to your face and call you a hater, and his base will believe him. Doesn’t matter if you have facts, doesn’t matter if you’re just repeating his words from last week - if you support Trump at this point, either it’s convenient for you to support him or you believe him in a faith sort of way. Either way, nothing said on that stage is going to change their minds

        The other aspect is that Trump is insanely charismatic. He’s great at debate - without an impartial judge that can shut him down, he gets to play by different rules than everyone else on the stage

        The best example of this is to read one of his speeches. You might listen to him and go “wtf is he talking about”, but reading his speeches is viscerally shocking. He rambles like my grandpa did when he was having a bad day with dementia - he drifts topic to topic, rarely goes back to finish a point, and like 90% of it is just filler words.

        But despite all that, people absolutely love to hear him speak. There’s plenty to say about the man, but his charisma is off the charts.

        Engaging him in debate is a fools errand. He will win, because he can sit up there, not make a single coherent point, come up with gradeschool nicknames, and half the country will walk away with the impression that he won the argument

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        Honestly yeah - I feel like to many of his competitors (especially DeSantis) are trying to emulate Trump, when really they should be going directly against him. They’re scared shitless of pissing off his voters, but clearly trying to appeal to them by being Trump v2 isn’t working either, so I don’t see what they have to lose

  • Redcat [he/him]
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    492 years ago

    the guy decided to run against a religious icon, and now he’s eating so much shit it’s incredible

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      292 years ago

      If society as we know it putters along for a few more centuries there’s a significant chance that trump-anguish actually becomes the focus of a new religion.

        • HornyOnMain [she/her]
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          82 years ago

          Yeah at first I laughed at the idea, but ngl, thinking about for a minute or so it actually seems possibleinternet-delenda-est

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        He already has, it’s called Christianity by its practitioners.

        Could cause some confusion, I know it’s re-using a name still in use by a smallish group of outliers.

      • Redcat [he/him]
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        272 years ago

        you can’t convince me the Mormons won’t deify Donald Trump centuries after they are the only american group to survive the climate wars. his hair is the same color as their golden tablets that aren’t real.

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      Posing as a human rights lawyer and illegally aiding in the torture of POWs at Guantanamo is the best way of forming a valid opinion on Iraq!

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        42 years ago

        Well, he did use his position to gain the trust of gunatanamo prisoners and when they told him what was particularly stressful to them, he passed that info on to make conditions worse for them. Like, a prisoner would tell him “we usually pick the vegetarian option because we think the meat here isn’t halal” and a week later, no more vegetarian food option. Things like that. There’s also a pretty harrowing account of how he oversaw hunger-striking prisoners being force-fed. People screaming and throwing up and shitting themselves in agony and he stood next to that and laughed. I honestly believe that if he didn’t join the navy to live out his murderous sadism, he’d be a serial killer with a collection of human body parts in his basement. Guy’s a complete fucking monster.