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I never knew so many people lived there.
I miss 90’s techno-libertarian utopianism. A little naive in retrospect, but I’m holding out hope that it’ll still have some relevance going forward.
I wonder what they would do if a social platform based on IPFS got popular.
Dear Netherlands,
The pigboy is your problem now. Sorry not sorry.
Sincerely,
Everyone else
You can almost hear the EU lawyers cracking their knuckles and quietly saying: “about that user data protection.”
Yeah, moving to the EU to escape regulation doesn’t seem like a smart move.
Nobody except himself has ever accused Steve Huffman of being smart.
Um… Did you read the article? It’s about moving their EU Headquarters from Ireland to the Netherlands. GDPR applied before and after. This is specifically about Irish censorship requirements.
so like, how can american companys just go “im not american lol, your laws dont apply to me despite me operating mostly in the us”
a nice little eli5 would be cool, i get the why, but the how?
Welkom in Nederland, moederneuker!
Ma naiers!
Vierenveertig vliegjen en een goudvis in de pinderkaas op de lul in een konijntjenaaimachine!
Terlinglijer
I‘m confused. Reddit claims it doesn’t host videos, just links to them but it absolutely does host videos.
Not since the last half decade.edit: i read the comment backwards. oops.
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You can upload videos straight to Reddit in 2024
Read the comment backwards :/
Decade half last the since not?
Darn you Redditors and your code speak!!Slightly Disappointed But Also Relieved You Don’t Type Like This Anymore Jaden
How Can Capital Letters Be Real If Our Eyes Aren’t Real???
From article
Reddit challenged its designation on the basis that it is mostly a text-based discussion platform, and links to videos uploaded elsewhere on the internet should not be factored in. The Irish regulator counter-argued that the audio-visual content on the platform is extensive, and pointed to its enormous reach, with 73 million daily users.
Could not find any post statistics, but they probably are correct and percentage wise uploaded videos should be at the bottom, but total count probably is too large to be simply disregarded. Reddit probably has more videos than Vimeo which is purely video based. And if Reddit would be in the clear then so should be Twitter and Facebook since those too are primarily text based.
All their media is hosted under the redditstatic domain, and as far as I can tell, that’s hosted on AWS. (There’s actually also a redditmedia domain, which they may also use, but that’s also on AWS).
That probably means that Reddit can get away with saying they don’t host any of it. They merely point their web addresses at the third party host.
They are responsible for that AWS account. No court in its right mind would think otherwise.
No, they really can’t. They own and operate the redditstatic domain and rent the server space from AWS. De jure that makes them the hoster.
But they provide the methods of uploading, deleting and viewing the contents of that storage to their end users.
So, it’s Reddits storage.
Wanna break laws by skirting jurisdiction semantics? Fine; The US should just block Reddit.
Time for the EU to rip him a new one :)
Why does anyone still use reddit? Why does anyone still use Twitter? Why does anyone still use Instagram?
For Twitter it really doesn’t make sense because it has become undebatably a “Nazi bar”, metaphorically since they aren’t an actual bar, but they still support and tolerate Nazis (and other manners of horrible people). Some people insist that it isn’t and there are “normal level headed people there” but that doesn’t matter, it’s still a Nazi bar, because it accepts and tolerates Nazis. How can someone expect to not be judged for going to and hanging out in a place like that?
Yeah, Reddit is not the ghost town I thought it would be after the mass exodus.
Like we had a secret (or not so secret) desire for it to crumble so we can crack a beer and say good riddance. 😁
But in the end, business mostly as usual.
It’s still active – save the communities that got kneecapped by mods during the revolt (and sadly, most of those are now Discord-based rather than having any appreciable activity here).
The activity there now is a lot… dumber. Like much of the internet, the ratio of real people to braindead bots on Reddit is a lot different than a few years ago.
I don’t get why more people didn’t move to Lemmy or mbin
Inertia is a bitch. That’s why.
Because most people did not use 3rd party apps and do not care about site′s management. Why move to someplace else if everything works great where you already are.
In my case it didn’t work great. Without 3rd party apps reddit died. I see your point tho. Some people are fine with a buggy ass client full of ads
Find me easier to access niche communities and I’ll be gone from reddit. I hoped Lemmy would blow up. Instead, reddit just shrank.
Find me easier to access niche communities
Have fun trying to discuss anything that isn’t about linux, american politics or reddit/amazon/elon bad!!. Lemmy is just a decentralized circle jerk.
Well i guess we should have seen it coming right. The people pissed enough with Reddit to leave were most likely to be technology proficient users and bourgeois hating leftists
Forgot people whose only opinion is hating the website they’re on.
I do not hate the concept of lemmy and the fediverse, But I’m also not going to pretend that lemmy at its current state isn’t a circle jerk. Lemmy needs more diverse groups of people. Like GrammerPolice said above, most people who migrated from reddit were people with very strong stance on their opinions. And there’s intense hostility to anything that is even slightly against what they believe in.
Lemmy has in many ways been a successful copy of reddit; lemmy has many of the same faults as reddit.
I do feel like part of questioning process is what can possibly be adjusted to reduce some of the problems? Otherwise it just feels like generic poopooing like one might see on reddit.
This is true, but at the same time, your posts on let me don’t get buried as easily. And the karma hear truly doesn’t matter.
It’s mildly frustrating that you can’t post anything that’s even remotely close to positive about any use of AI, or any positive information whatsoever about Tesla over SpaceX without being said that you’re sucking musks cock. But in those respects the only thing different between Lemmy and Reddit is the number of people that will come to your defense, and of course in Reddit if no one comes to your defense your post is basically buried.
You’re all so far less likely to have a reasonable post here removed. Yes it still happens, yes a few of the communities are still moderated by biased enough individuals to delete your content but it’s much less prevalent than it was at reddit.
That said, yeah if you are mostly conservative you are going to have a very bad time trying to soapbox here
‘karma’ has the same use here just as in reddit imo. it buries your post/comment but it is not as amplified as on reddit only because of the rate of new content made in lemmy. And when the mods get tired of modding in the future they would just bot it based on … votes.
iirc someone already made a moderation bot for that.
Some of us prefer not drowning in bots and pathologically hostile individuals.
And some subreddits have fascist mods who arbitrarily ban anyone who’s not a alt-right or worse.
And that too
Yeah I really wish people in niche communities would just migrate over. I honestly don’t understand why they haven’t yet.
Because Reddit unites everyone with the same interest in a single or at worst few subreddits. Lemmy has over 9000 instances with a bunch of communities each, half of which are defederating the other half without their users even knowing. If we thought reddit search was bad, lemmy search is non-existent. I really wanted lemmy to work, but even for someone with decent knowledge about tech it was a nightmare to figure this out. The main advantage of fediverse which is the decentralization turned out to be its main disadvantage with so much fragmentation and censorship in the form of defederation…
This stealth defederating is the worst.
stealt
Yes, people were hating on shadow banning, but this is ever worse as it will happen to you even if you did nothing wrong. All you had to do is choose the wrong instance, which everyone said it didn’t matter what you picked at the beginning.
I hoped Lemmy would blow up.
Blow up one server and three new will sprout.
Maybe because they just want to???
i seen a few people still use it my friend,some random people in a server,etc
Because people do not care. It is that simple.
Why does anyone still use Reddit?
Some niche communities and content to repost on Lemmy
Why does anyone still use Instagram?
Friends and memes to repost on Lemmy
What’s wrong with Instagram now?
Centralized and owned by meta. Harvesting your data constantly. Ads upon ads that track you. Proprietary.
These comments are so braindead, Jesus Christ.
Reddit has an absolutely massive wealth of community knowledge. If you want to find a community for $thing or gain obscure knowledge on $thing, that’s where you go (assuming there isn’t an old forum post from before Reddit killed forums).
Twitter is where a lot of people still are. If you’re the kind of person to care what a particular person says, that’s where you probably want to be.
Instagram is used by young people who have friends on Instagram.
It isn’t a great system, but it is the system that we have today. This is why legislation compelling Meta/Twitter/whothefuckever to act in an ethical manner is important. Social media is to some extent a natural oligopoly, and unless we get extremely, extremely lucky, the fediverse will always be a niche community.
because their friends are there
or in reddit’s case, because they think their friends are there
You don’t know why someone would use a social link aggregator… and you’re lamenting about this on a social link aggregator.
Why are you here?
Exactly. Really incomprehensible why are some people amazed at some things. We’re all different, with different motives, different needs, different levels of coziness and different views on privacy etc.
Almost like they asked about a specific site and not the concept of link aggregators or something
Almost
It was still a brain-dead question, even for a rhetorical one.
Overall, because Lemmy is slow and boring mostly. I see headlines here and go to Reddit for the comments through the geddit crawler.
I gotta disagree with you here. At least on the sub(s) that I still - on the occasion of big events - take a glance at. To me, Reddit comments are the epitome of staleness and predictability. Also, their user base seems like a bunch of 40-year-old dads that mentally peaked at 16, but keep getting more racist by the year.
Tbh I cant ban subs so when I crawl R/all I get mostly bots, reposts and thirst traps which sucks but there is no long term discussion threads here. Nothing like a review thread on the movies sub or music subs, where there are hundreds or thousands of views to skim.
I use it for porn still
first Tumblr banned porn, then Reddit requires sign-in for 18+ content (I know old UI bypasses that), and now Twitter has become a walled garden as well. Bad times for gooners
This is basically asking why anyone would live in or near a city like Los Angeles or New York City when Minot exists and has everything you could possibly need.
If you had to look up where Minot even is, you’ve proven my point.
Say what you will about whether living near the proverbial big city is worth it or not. But it cannot be denied, there is a world of experiences on offer at larger platforms that a smaller platform simply cannot provide. Network effect can be a cruel mistress.
Why not Minot?
Season’s the reason!
reddit has half functioning search.
Most people don’t care. I’m sick of hearing about Reddit, I left because I do care but I don’t want to keep hearing about my ex, you know!
We are not important, we are the minority that maybe cares about these things and that’s ok, we should live our lives the way we want to and allow others to do the same.
Agreed. Yes, it’s important to know what’s going on in the “big” world - but I wish all of us more interested in Lemmy, the small web, and so on spent more time and energy on creating, maintaining, and enjoying what we can build/use and less lamenting, bashing, or wishing for what we want to leave behind.
Exactly! It reeks of superiority; I prefer to just live my life and if people are curious about the decisions I make then I’ll try and enlighten people, but if they don’t care still then that’s ok. We can’t force people to be like us and wouldn’t want too either, because I wouldn’t want people to try and force me to go back to Reddit for instance.
𝕴𝖙 𝖎𝖘 𝖙𝖎𝖒𝖊 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖞𝖔𝖚 𝖙𝖔 𝖗𝖊𝖙𝖚𝖗𝖓 𝖙𝖔 𝖗𝖊𝖉𝖉𝖎𝖙!
As someone who only recently joined Lemmy (as a result of getting booted from Reddit) it ultimately comes down to it being bigger.
You can talk regularly about series have been over for a decade. Just about any niche interest has a vibrant community. The reality is the average person doesn’t care about it selling our data, putting a fingerprint on our gear one step above spyware, it being overrun with bots, every level of administration being dominated by megalomaniacs. If you just want to look through some stuff you’re interested in while you’re bored, it serves a purpose that lemmy unfortunately can’t at it’s size.
Because social networks are only as good as the people who are on them.
A lot of stuff ONLY has viable Q&A discussion there…
As much as I love the idea of Lemmy, try finding active communities here for: MAME or any other videogame emulation… Plex… The breed of your family dog/cat… Most any sort of non-Fedi-focused brand/podcast/personality…
Yes, I can create a new community. Then I just sit in it by myself, and occasionally deal with spam.
Discoverability is poor on Lemmy and isn’t helped by the low user count.
Would be nice to revisit an old idea from Newsgroups, where you could sub to gaming and see everything, or gaming.playstation.ps5 or gaming.emulation.mame or whatever for sub-communities.
But then the decentralised nature works against it there as well.
Because people dream of making it big, being viral, being an influencer with a ton of followers and money. That one second of fame is still tantalising to a lot of people.
Also a lot of these apps (not reddit, but the others like Facebook) are installed on phones by default. To many, they are just what the internet is.
Nana and grandad used to do email. Now it’s just racist rainbowflag-phobic reposting on Facebook and wondering why their grandkids that haven’t looked at FB in a decade don’t contact them.
Complacency
Why does anyone still use chrome!
I get twitter and reddit because of the uniqueness of the platforms but chrome is just a web browser! Any other program can be used in its stead to view the same exact websites yet people continue to use it even being stubborn about it!
Sounds like another case of US tech companies fucking with the web of EU regulations to nobody’s benefit but their own.
It’s no wonder they moved to another tax haven. Sorry, sorry. The EU doesn’t have tax havens according to their own rules. Low tax threshold geographic jurisdictions.
Wait isn’t Ireland an EU tax haven?
The EU has a blacklist of tax havens around the world. And, according to the rules the EU decided, no EU member is a tax haven. 🙃
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_tax_haven_blacklist
Apparently, according to that link, they did try to class Ireland and the Netherlands as “countries with traits of tax havens” but the recommendation hasn’t been implemented. Quelle suprise.
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Idea: Governments maintain a list of entities that are evading the law like that, and then doesn’t prosecute people who are accused of crimes against such entities. The idea being that if you place yourself outside of the law’s reach, you also place yourself outside of the law’s protection.
That’s a bingo!
We just say bingo…
That’s a bingo…
The moved their jurisdiction to the Netherlands? In the EU? Wow. Now the GDPR can be used to really kick their butts.
Aren’t there tax benefits to incorporating in Ireland? Conventional thought would suggest that the tax/regulatory environment in the Netherlands would be less attractive? Maybe that’s wrong… I wonder what their reasons for moving were. Is that where Steve Huffman wants to build his new doomsday bunker? Gotta spread out just in case. Maybe connect it to the one in CA with a massive underwater tunnel lol clown
They usually operate in tandem, a double dutch irish tax sandwich or whatever it is called.
Mmm… Serpent Road…
Oh we got a bunch of leeches in Europe, Ireland is not the only one
They would be forced to delete all messages of all deleted users
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GDPR applies regardless of where headquarters are located
Yes, but it’s easier to enforce EU regulations when the headquarters happens to be within the EU.
A move from Ireland to the Netherlands doesn’t really change much in that regard.
Idk, they’re a bit closer to Brussels, so there’s that…
There is always the issue of “x applies” and “x is enforcable”. Think of Signal or Telegram here.
What a weaselly thing to do
Shut up, Weasley!
Eat slugs, Malfoy!
I was going for a TNG reference. The HP reference was entirely unintentional, though may have been unconscious.
Should’ve been Wesley for TNG. Funny nonetheless. 😂
I was combining Wesley with weaseley
Sounds like it’ll need blocked in Ireland then
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Fuck Spez
What’s the joke about? Does Ireland block everything that comes from the Netherlands?
It’s more a “If a company doesn’t comply with a coutry’s regulations then it can’t operate in that country” thing and not a joke.
For example Twitter when it was blocked in Brazil for a little while because they didn’t want to pay a fine for not complying with some of their regulations.
For example Twitter when it was blocked in Brazil for a little while because they didn’t want to pay a fine for not complying with some of their regulations.
Though the bigger part of that was that their representative quit, and by Brazilian law, companies that operate in Brazil must have a representative in the country.
Twitter tried to sidestep that by not paying the fine, and also not having a representative, so the fine couldn’t be applied that way. In response, the judge presiding over the cause required Twitter be blocked.
With that I agree
