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Single issue voting 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Abstentionism supports genocide.
Yeah, what’s her specific plan to tackle the issues that people care about?
She has a concept of a rebellion
Haha, I can’t up vote this enough.
Brilliant
That’s what rebellions are built on! Or was that rebelling… Nope, it was hope. Almost forgot
More POC death star operators!
More female storm troopers!
Why do you support terrorists?
The Empire has a right to defend itself
Those Rebel Terrorists were using human shields
The ones responsible for the destruction of Alderaan were those Rebel Terrorists, we gave a very humane 30 minute evacuation warning after all
The rebels destroyed Alderaan with their own superweapon they had been developing underground. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the Death Star did fire on Alderaan, but it was a targeted, focused strike that hit a rebel facility which caused their superweapon to explode and destroy the planet, the Empire had no idea that would happen. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the Death Star did destroy the planet, but the rebels were still developing a superweapon and even more people would’ve died otherwise. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the rebels weren’t developing a superweapon on Alderaan, but the destruction of the planet were the actions of a rogue moff acting without approval. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the Emperor’s right hand man was in the room when it was decided, but Emperor Palpatine has invited every surviving Alderaanian to his own private resort world, and they’re also rebuilding with a new colony on Ejolus. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the colony on Ejolus has been wiped out, but they were harboring rebels. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
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So your argument is that everybody is evil and thus we should give up voting and thus ensuring that there is no hope for democracy vs. Accepting even 1% chance that this election won’t change our future for the better?
Lol removed for “misinformation”. I’m saying that a system that produces genocides, no matter who you vote for is a lost cause. It sucks, it’s depressing, and I don’t fault you for coping with it however you see fit. For myself, well, I can’t explain myself too well without sounding like I’m insulting you, but I won’t sign my name in support of someone who looks an awful lot to me (okay mods?) like a genocidal monster.
How the fuck do you cast the democrats as having no agency
How do YOU force them to have agency but let Republicans do whatever the fuck they want, then punish lefties for it?
What the fuck are you even talking about right now?? The democrats are in office!!
Who do you think is president right now? I know you probably wish it was Putin or Xi, but let’s just focus on the US candidates as they are, even if its hard. And let’s be clear: neither is a lefty, but one is much, MUCH closer than the other.
I’m pretty confused. Can you read? Antioutsideaktion is saying the Dems are currently in power… I’m sure he knows Biden is president right now. That’s why the question asked was how can you cast the Democrats as having no power? Because they have power now.
Oh yeah I read fine. At least 5th grade level.
The post is about the election in meme format, and the person running for the D camp is not perfect and also not IN POWER, she is the VP. If you want to throw shade, that’s cool I guess, but it means you’re indirectly supporting Trump, which is about the dumbest thing a person that is self-aware can do. Kamala is not perfect to be sure, but I can think of at least one candidate who is WAY fucking worse.
I’m sure you think you’re cute, but just like LOTR, Tom Bombadil is worth getting fucking cut for being generally moronic (and I read all the songs for some stupid reason).
If you don’t clap for our meme you are the enemy and no I’m not a nazi why do you ask
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if you want to ask to vote against trump then do that. here you are making a fool of yourself when harris has repeatedly said she will continue biden’s genocide. does she has power over her own policy or she is just cardboard candidate controlled by aipac. the irony of you talking about self-awareness.
and she has also been very eagerly taken credit for anything good that has happened in last 4 years, she can’t have it both ways. go hag dnc as they are one who are doing everything possible to get trump elected.
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Death Stars don’t kill people. Traitors who won’t give up the location of the secret Rebel base kill people.
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I’m sure Star wars fans will understand the nuance. Not like most of them unironically like stormtroopers.
Spikes lens
Nope and nope.
Guess who’s ringing up Netanyahu telling him not to agree authenticity the ceasefire? Yes, that’s right, the nation’s most popular insurrectionist and peace hater, Donald J Trump, and guess whose geriatric genocidal actions were not mentioned by you at all in a heroic act of something I’m sure psychologists have a name for, yes that’s right, it’s that loony loopy idtiot former president, losing his marbles in public on the television, yes, it’s two for two, good old (well, ok, old at least), Donald J Trump!
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(I deleted that comment because I accidentally posted it twice. It’s one of the other replies to your post.)
NYT thinks Israel has a massive stockpile of weapons, other suppliers and actually recently exported a record value of arms in the year containing the October 7 attack and the insane obliterative war that Israel launched in response. I don’t think Israel is worried about running out of weapons any time soon, because they’ve opened up another front against Lebanon!
You know who could stop the war today? Netanyahu. Do you know who’s telling him not to stop on the phone, on a regular basis? Trump. He even boasts of it.
taken in… grade A moron… you’re dumb.
I don’t appreciate being called names just because you disagree with me, and I don’t think it strengthens your case that you resort to that as a debating tactic.
I’m not disagreeing with you about a matter of opinion or ideology. I’m disagreeing with you on a matter of basic critical thinking and awareness of the material reality of the situation. On the former you have a point. On the latter it’s a disservice to the overall discourse to give you so much grace as to not call you an idiot. Your views on this matter are not valid and there is a correct answer.
there is a correct answe
That trump is working to prolong the hate fuelled war and Biden is working to stop it.
Hey. Moderator here. Your attack on their intelligence is a rule violation. Please either delete this comment, or update it so you’re not insulting somebody. If you don’t in 2 hours, I will be forced to delete your comment. If you continue down this path, you will receive a temporary ban.
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Nope and nope.
Guess who’s ringing up Netanyahu telling him not to agree authenticity the ceasefire? Yes, that’s right, the nation’s most popular insurrectionist and peace hater, Donald J Trump, and guess whose geriatric genocidal actions were not mentioned by you at all in a heroic act of something I’m sure psychologists have a name for, yes that’s right, it’s that loony loopy idtiot former president, losing his marbles in public on the television, yes, it’s two for two, good old (well, ok, old at least), Donald J Trump!
Do you think Biden needs Trump’s approval to stop sending Netanyahu weapons?
I think Trump has been ringing up Netanyahu regularly to argue against Israel agreeing to Biden’s ceasefire plan, like he said he is, so Trump is working to keep the genocide in Gaza going and you can’t bring yourself to admit this or talk about it while Trump felt admits it and even boasts of it in public.
Why can’t both be true? Sure. Trump tells Netanyahu not to accept the ceasefire. And when Netanyahu says no, rather than doing something to further pressure him, like making the munitions we send them conditional on a ceasefire, he just gives up and sends more bombs.
We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of options! We asked him nicely to stop and he told us no. :(
One of two people will be president next: Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. It’s very important for the people of Gaza that it’s Kamala, not Trump. It’s a literal binary choice that the country faces. And then there’s the denying healthcare to women of childbearing age, the mass deportations, the plan to be dictator on day one, all of project 2025, the plan to send the military against leftwingers for disagreeing with Trump, all apart from the simping, fawning and sucking up to every dictator Trump can wheedle an appointment with and who has the nous to realise Trump will love them forever just for calling him clever or strong in public. I used to think that Putin had some compromat on Trump that kept him doing his bidding, but it became painfully obvious that that’s not needed, and Putin just needs to whisper in his ear that he’s a great leader and everyone respects him, and Trump is bought, yes, all that cheaply.
I 100% agree with you on everything in this comment. My only point is that regardless of how badly trump wants to finish the job, Harris certainly doesn’t seem to want to stop it. And as such, she isn’t free from criticism. Moreover she needs to hear more criticism to push her into walking back her support of Israel “defending itself” by retaliating in a wildly disproportionate fashion. And the key time to do it was in the lead up to the election, because if she felt like enough people were upset about it that it could cost her the election, it had a higher chance of making a difference.
It’s possible to believe Trump is an evil piece of shit, but also that Harris needs to improve. Just because she’s the better choice doesn’t mean she’s perfect.
I’ll admit it right now. Not that it matters why Netanyahu is refusing to negotiate.
You seem to be under the impression that “negotiation” means “asking nicely and giving up if they say no.” If Netanyahu refuses to cooperate, you stop giving him weapons until he does. Obviously. How bad do you have to be at negotiating to not realize that?
So you admit that Trump is actively working to prolong the genocide in Gaza and then you ignore that and come straight back with your weird logic that the people who are trying to stop him are culpable and the people trying to get him to kill more gets a pass from you, and you want me to believe you care about Gaza?! You do not, you’re just cynically using it as a political football to try and win the election for stupid, senile and angry old man Donald “finish them” “best king of Israel” Trump.
So you believe that Biden should be completely immune to all criticism no matter what he does so long as he’s not Trump? I should just invent a fantasy world where Biden is perfect the way you do because acknowledging reality might hurt Kamala’s chances? If I was interested in doing that, then I would’ve done it with the beliefs I was raised with, and I’d be a religious conservative. Fortunately, I’m willing to think critically and face reality, instead of putting party above truth, as you seem to be suggesting I do right now. I want no part in any group or political ideology that requires me to lie or ignore the truth.
Keep repeating that conspiracy theory to yourself all you want. Ad hominem is the only response you libs can ever muster. You can’t refute what I actually say, so you just focus on trying to paint me as a secret Trump supporter. Weak.
It’s not ad hominem to point out that all of your criticisms are for the Democrats and you can barely muster half a sentence of admission that trump might not be the savior of Gaza you’re implying, and that your whole argument is politically biased against the Democrats and for the republicans.
If you don’t want to be accused of being a trump supporter, at least make some effort towards even a tiny bit of balance. But no, you can’t do it. For you, any factual criticism of trump and the republicans must be countered by a wall of conspiracy theory about how Biden’s attempts to negotiate peace are secretly war mongering and trump’s open and boastful war mongering is swept under the carpet.
I’d imagine they have enough munitions and suppliers for it not to matter, and doing so will simply deteriorate relations, causing the US to hold less sway with its one ally in the region.
Nah, that’s too nuanced - just don’t give them guns and they’ll stop.
It doesn’t really matter what you imagine. It’s worked before and I bet it’ll work again. And even if it doesn’t and Israel is entirely independent from the US and totally needs nothing from us… Why is that a reason to supply them. Great they don’t need our shit let’s stop giving it to em.
Hold less sway with an ally… What good is that sway of we can’t stop a genocide with it? Or really slow it down even a pinch? I’d rather people doing genocide don’t like us actually… They’re evil.
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Your options are The Trade Federation or the Old Republic.
Count Dooku or Senator Palpatine
And stop asking what happened to all those Younglings. The Trade Federation would kill far more Jedi if they were in power.
Comparing Kamala to either is unhinged
I agree that making real life comparisons to fantasy characters can quickly become silly.
Honestly if you took it at face value i.e. Dooku was not Darth Tyranus and actually believed in the CIS cause, it wouldn’t seem like that bad an option.
Wasnt dooku a sith? Thus was working for palpatine and the whole war was a plot to undermine the old republic to create an empire that palpatine directly controlled.
Yup
I know this isn’t the point, but The Trade Federation were a Neimoidian megacorporation that was a member of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, which Count Dooku founded.
more like pre-palpatine republic vs empire.
A big theme of the Prequel Series (and a reason for its insurgent popularity) stems from the strong anti-war themes.
The Old Republic became the Empire as it was consumed by the mass militarization of its greedy, self-righteous, and power hungry elites.
The Jedi fell into Palpatine’s trap when they surrounded themselves with Space Cops, foolishly believing endless escalation made them safer.
Did Leia keep claiming she wants the most lethal military in the galaxy too?
She was a leading figure in a paramilitary organisation, both before and after the death of the emperor. So, maybe?
Leia was leader of the imperial police?
Y’all can’t distinguish between movies and reality.
So the internet certainly tells me.
Yeah, you’d think that would be exactly what she wanted.
What do you think the United States is more like? A guerilla insurgency or a miltaristic empire imposing its will on the rest of society?
First one, then the other.
I think he was saying that the US began as am insurgency.
Good point and interpretation. Didn’t think of the language as a progression in time instead of a ranking.
So Leia isn’t a great analog. Maybe a Vader / Palpatine election would be closer to realityI misread that, hold up.
The United States of America spends more money on it’s military than the next 10 countries COMBINED.
The United States has ~800 military bases all around the world in foreign countries.
This doesn’t sound like an empire to you?
Well you’re wrong
In this analogy, did Princess Leia build the Death Star and blow up Alderaan? Ridiculous levels of whitewashing.
Leia made ableist remarks about a storm trooper once. Both sides are the same!
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Plus, as a member of the Imperial Senate, she’s obviously part of The Swamp that must be drained.
(I also hear she emigrated to Alderaan illegally.)
Also, look at her counsel. My brother’s wife’s hairdresser’s mechanic said that there’s very big questions about where Chewbacca’s from. He hasn’t even released his birth certificate!
Plus, he’s, you know… one of them.
In that case, Princess Vespa would be a better comparison, being Druish.
Yeah, but she doesn’t look Druish though.
She was for Senator Palpatine before she was against him
Vader didn’t blow up a planet. He didn’t stop it from getting blown up but he was more of an accessory to it.
Yeah, all he did was help Palpatine build the Death Star, and it was Tarkin who actually gave the order. Do these anti-Vader people even understand what his role is as Sith Lord?
These single-issue voters who refuse to vote for Vader just because of the Aderaan issue are just helping Palpatine. Why does everyone suddenly care so much about Alderaan anyway?
Humorless and missing the point deliberately as usual, I see.
Meanwhile in the real world, Trump explains how he regularly phones up Netanyahu to convince him to ditch Biden’s ceasefire plan.
And Biden pretends to be upset about that while overriding congress to send him more weapons, completely unconditionally. Just like how he’s been unconditionally supportive of Israel his entire career.
Don’t confuse your conspiracy theory cope that Biden or Kamala are secretly pro-Palestine, contrary to all their actions and statements, with “the real world.”
At a certain point, arguing that they’re legitimately trying and failing to rein Netanyahu in, when he’s completely dependant on our protection, means arguing that they are so absurdly and comically incompetent that shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the levers of power for fear that they might slip on a banana peel and catch themselves on the button that launches the nukes. They’re not idiots, they’re doing it because this is what they want.
I love how you talk so much about the Democrats as if the Republicans wouldn’t be worse and as if Trump hasn’t admitted to phoning Netanyahu frequently to tell him not to agree to Biden’s ceasefire plan.
My criticism of the Democrats has nothing to do with the idea of the Republicans “not being worse.” I just believe, unlike you, that truth doesn’t stop being true when it’s inconvenient. Party loyalty has rendered you completely incapable of acknowledging reality, whether you can’t see it, or whether you do see it but won’t admit what you see.
I’ll ask again since you refuse to answer: do you think that Biden needs Trump’s approval to stop bypassing Congress to send weapons to Israel?
Biden shits his pants “Why would Trump do this?”
When did you stop hitting your wife?
Are you denying the fact that Biden has bypassed congress to send weapons to Israel? Because if so you are dead wrong.
Trump didn’t stop Jamal Kashoggi from getting murdered with a meat saw, so I guess they’re similar that way.
Was he particularly in a position to stop that?
Stopping him from getting murdered by the Saudis? Maybe.
Done something about it afterward? Definitely.
He did do something about it… he blew up an Iranian General…
/s
She kissed her brother once and her father is a known criminal, open your eyes sheeple
I must have missed the part of the movie where Leia devotes a significant amount of her planets resources to building the deathstar while her constituents screamed for her to stop
I see that you understand that, much like a vice president, that is something someone with the powers of a princess can do.
Evidently you did, because it’s mentioned that she was a member of the Imperial Senate right up till it was dissolved. She participated directly in the government that built a weapon of mass destruction and used it to commit a genocidal act of state terrorism. Thankfully, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, they never invented purity testing so people like you weren’t wrenching their spines in an effort to suck their own dicks about it.
Well you would have to have a spine to know what thats like so I understand why the people bravely tonguing the asshole of the administration lying to us and circumventing Congress to continue arming their pet dictator’s ethnic cleansing wouldn’t get it
Maybe if you plugged away at it for a while you could come up with an even more flaccid and contrived rebuttal.
She was still in the senate when her ship was captured by Vader at the beginning of Star Wars.
Leia: I’m a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.
Vader: You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor.
That sums it up well. Leia wasn’t unclear about her morals and goals. She was working in government with the intention of making things better, instead of sitting outside of government and bitching while doing nothing to help.
The baddies were sick of her constant efforts to derail their plans, so once they had enough fascist power to start going after their political rivals, they went after her.
Being in government does not make everyone automatically a willing participant of all of that government’s policies. You wouldn’t accuse Bernie or AOC of being cozy with GOP bullshit. But people around here are very happy to blame Harris for everything they perceive to be going wrong in the gov, while casually dismissing that Trump is 10X worse at the same topics.
She was working in government with the intention of making things better
She was literally working for an armed rebellion actively fighting a war with the aim of overthrowing the government.
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Michelle Obama made a speech on this. Trump is not getting demands. She is.
Mr Concept of a Plan after 8 years isn’t pushed at all. Meanwhile, we need more details on the articulated plans of Harris. It’s quite the mismatched standard.
Also, Biden is her boss. She’s not the boss yet. New bosses do different things with the company when they take over.
And they don’t publicly undercut the old bosses while being second in charge especially in sensitive diplomatic situations.
Exactly. Maybe Harris is in lockstep with Biden on Israel or maybe it would just be a really bad idea to undercut him while she needs his support.
Who knows? We won’t know until she’s actually in charge.
I’m old enough to remember that Al Gore didn’t rock the Clinton boat either. I doubt he would have been another Bill Clinton.
Who knows? We won’t know until she’s actually in charge.
TrumpHarris is just saying that to appeasethe Deep StateZionist voters, but once they’re in office, they’ll reveal that it was all an act and they’re actually going to do all the stuff we want. Trust the plan.If only we got to see what Gore would have done differently… Sigh.
Clearly, the solution is to vote in the Imperial Senate if you want to affect change.
Unless you’re trying to say Kamala Harris is secretly working for Hamas or something?
