I keep seeing men online (Reddit, Instagram, TikTok) saying how they don’t know personal details about their male friends of several years. It is mostly said in a proud context, or in disbelief when a woman talks about it.

I’m talking about knowing someone for years and not knowing what they do for work specifically, their relationship status/major issues, their life goals, their family situation, birthdays, and stuff like that.

For context, I am a man in my 20s. I have a close friend group of around 10 people. We all know each other very well. We have a group chat, and meet at least once a week (obviously some people can’t always make it). We know a lot of details about each other, so this idea of being close friends with someone and not knowing personal stuff about each other seems foreign and weird to me.

Does it actually happen, or just internet hyperbole?

  • Feydaikin
    link
    fedilink
    English
    32 years ago

    My close circle is tiny and we know eachother almost too well. But I fall short on everyone else.

    What people do or who they interact with (outside of the ones I know as well) is usually inconsequential to me. Who they are as a person matters far more to me than their past, their profession, their connections.

    Which, I have found, is more interest than I usually get in return. So I guess it’s just the way we, males, work. Keep it simple.

    • Kalash
      link
      fedilink
      22 years ago

      That’s why I could never be friends with a Frenchman.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        32 years ago

        Eh. If someone’s not comfortable with it that’s cool. It’s my default though. I want my friends to know how much I love them.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    52 years ago

    I know tons of my best friend of 24 years dirty laundry, his background and job, etc, but I’ve never met his gf of six months, and only incidentally seen his other friends. He has never met most of my friends, but he knows my gf and family well. I see his parents constantly.

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky
    link
    fedilink
    English
    12 years ago

    I cannot say I know much about him anymore since I haven’t seen him since highschool. No idea what he’s doing or anything of the sort and in a way it’s kinda sad. I don’t even know if I can reconnect with him and if it would even work out between us.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    172 years ago

    Hi there, can attest: have a childhood friend whom I’ve known for years, know surprisingly little about him. I think it might be a cultural thing, for men to not bond too deeply, which is a damn shame.

  • oʍʇǝuoǝnu
    link
    fedilink
    72 years ago

    I have a pretty close group of male friends from highschool that I would like to say I know pretty well. I moved away from our hometown in my early twenties 10 years ago so it’s hard to keep up with the lives, who they’re dating, etc. We have a group chat that’s mostly just memes and stuff but it gives us a chance to reach out.

  • Devi
    link
    fedilink
    112 years ago

    I’ve got a male friend getting married soon. He struggled to invite many of our other male friends as he didn’t know their surnames, addresses, or in some cases phone numbers. These are close long term friends.

    He can however tell you a hundred stories about stupid stuff our friend Adam has done while drunk.

    I just don’t think male conversation includes details or personal stuff often.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      42 years ago

      Tbf I wouldnt consider surnames and phone numbers “personal details”. Surnames and adresses are largely irrelevant for interactions in a friend group, and phone numbers would be swapped mainly for adding people to a Whatsapp/Telegram group chat. (How did he keep in contact with these people without a phone number, though?)

      • Devi
        link
        fedilink
        12 years ago

        Group chats and at meet ups I guess?

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          22 years ago

          If its a group Chat in Whatsapp/Telegram etc, he still would have access to the phone numbers. Could be a group chat on discord or insta though, good point.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    142 years ago

    Is an outsider perspective allowed? I have 2 older brothers close in age. My oldest brother has very superficial relationships with his “friends”. In German, he would call these types of people “Bekannte” or “Leute mit denen ich rausgehe” (people I hang out with).

    He is in general quite closed up and I can remember that he had a sharp change of heart when he was about 16. For a reason that he won’t disclose. When you ask him about anything that would need any type of reflection on his part it’s typically “I don’t know” and “Why do you ask?”. His friends are similar and when someone tries to talk about something more personal you can feel the awkwardness and it’s usually shortly discussed then brushed aside with a joke to change topics.

    My other brother has actual friends. They buy each other gifts for their birthdays, call each other when something happened and they need advice or vent. Just “normal” stuff from my perspective.

    Interesting things I’ve seen over the decades I studied them: In oldest brothers people-group the wives and girlfriends don’t really mix with their husbands/boyfriends. They mostly meet separately.

    My older brother is much more irritated when my other brother asks him about personal stuff than when I do it.

    I don’t think he talks with anyone about how he’s feeling, apart from his nervous breakdown each year on Christmas.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    162 years ago

    I stood up in my best friend’s wedding, and he took the photos at mine. I went in and covered for him when his wife started labor for their first child. I bailed him out of jail when we had a particularly wild night of drinking. We often have the same or very similar daily driver vehicles. I wrote him letters and post cards nearly every day when he was in basic training, and they were such a hit with his group, he asked me to write them all a letter. I’ve known him 18 years, could not with confidence tell you his age.

    • Hahahaha. I’m close to my best friend of almost 30 years. We know a lot about each other but I never can remember his age. I know he’s younger than me but is it 1 year? 2? shrug

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    52 years ago

    I have a close friend group and several non related friends who I’d say I know a lot about and vise-versa. With the group, certainly some more than others.

    When hanging out with people I often find the most satisfying activity is to just chill, talk, and get to know each other better; pick their brain to see how their views differ from mine or are the same. Often an easy thing to do when we’re low on energy too