Hey baby, I got all the distros and we can try them all, all night long.
Even Gentoo? 👉☺️👈
Even gentoo. Its so quaint and quirky.
When every other topic by windows users on lemmy is “windows sucks so much. Now they did X and Y, and everything is shit” linux users are going to reply with “use Linux”.
It’s like hearing incels complain about never losing their virginity. The brothel is right around the corner, just get it over with.
So where do those of us who don’t think Windows is the literal worst OS ever fit into your analogy?
At the hospital on 100% copium ventilators.
I’m sorry, I don’t get it. For what are we coping?
Microsoft just recently implemented a screenshot spyware on your computer and an AI with the widest attack surface for hackers ever on your OS and mixed it into your most basic tool, the file explorer, then blocked off a quarter of all users for using 2-5 year old hardware, instead of implementing software fixes to avoid hardware vulnerabilities.
It then forced you to use a closed source hardware component that likely has a backdoor, to store all your encryption keys, required you to make a Microsoft account just to use your PC, and then use that account to spy on your every move both online and offline. It is a privacy nightmare.
It then keeps overriding your default settings to make you to use Microsoft products over other ones, and have started baking in ads into various menues.
If you still don’t think that makes it the worst OS, you’re obviously coping. I have used Linux, Windows, and Mac, and out of those three, Windows is at the very bottom.
A) None of that has actually happened. If you want to back down from hyperbole and provide specific examples, I will consider addressing them.
B) The U.S. Government is not an adversary in my threat model. If it is one in yours, I assume you are running Qubes OS, which is a completely different conversation. With Windows, I have access to Secure Boot and TPM-backed full drive encryption (including hibernation support) out of the box. Can you do that with Linux? Also, you know as well as everyone else here that the MSA requirement is easy to bypass.
C) Again, provide specifics. I don’t default any of my apps to Microsoft’s and this just doesn’t happen.
A) Windows Recall and Copilot. Recall will screenshot your environment every second. Copilot is an LLM which has access to virtually everything on your system. LLMs are also notoriously easy to fool into giving away information it was specifically instructed not to, and perform actions it was instructed never to do.
B) The us government has no business collecting information about non-us citizens, but even for people living in the US, imagine having an abortion, and living in a state where abortion is illegal. In that case you wouldn’t want the US government to come sniffing either. But more importantly, privacy does not need to be justified.
With Windows, I have access to Secure Boot and TPM-backed full drive encryption (including hibernation support) out of the box. Can you do that with Linux?
Yes.
Also, you know as well as everyone else here that the MSA requirement is easy to bypass.
You know very well that if someone has to crack your OS to get it the way they want, that is not a quality.
C) Again, provide specifics. I don’t default any of my apps to Microsoft’s and this just doesn’t happen.
Press the windows key, write “how to open windows menu searches with firefox” press enter and let your favorite browser Edge look that up for you. A nice page will explain to you that windows doesn’t let you use your default browser from the windows menu and that you’ll have to install a script called “ChrEdgeFkOff” to circumvent it.
A) You’ve said nothing relevant. We already knew all of this. Recall isn’t being installed or turned on on any of my Windows boxes. Copilot is dumb but it isn’t collecting any data you don’t voluntarily feed it.
B) I don’t disagree with whatever point you’re trying to make but it has nothing to do with Windows. Unless you know something we don’t?
B2) You’re lying
B3) What?!
C) You’re initiating searches through the Microsoft Windows Start Menu™ and are mad it’s launching Edge? Do I have that right?
Probably not in the metaphorical brothel.
I should have mentioned that I still love Linux though…
Maybe the 'ol junkyard? It was crazy fun when we were kids and we got fond memories of it.
I hate microsoft BTW, windows has just gotten a bit too bloated and obnoxious IMO.
That is so not the experience of most of us who just don’t give a fuck about what OS other people use. I love my Mac but I have no desire to talk about my OS like it’s a hobby any more than I talk about the kind of car I drive.
I had to block linuxmemes because it was so spammy. I’m about to do the same to Linuxsucks as well.
But for the record Linux users are the CrossFit/vegans of the tech world. We all know you love your OS and none of us care.
my Mac
I have no desire to talk about my OS
Cause. Effect.
😀
There ya go Linux user. I’m perfectly happy with my computer and the fact I can afford it without a problem.
We all know you love your OS and none of us care.
I care. I like hearing about it. Even when you make the wrong choice.
I feel that. I like Linux, but I also like using the right tool for the job, and sometimes that’s actually Windows. The rates of Linux talk here reminds me of Reddit like 15 years ago. It’s nice, but also I forgot how weird it is to be in such a Linuxy echochamber
I caught this ubuntu server thing on my laptop, I haven’t really bothered fixing it because it’s been really handy
Coming on Lemmy and complaining in ShowerThoughts that there are too many Lemmy users complaining because there are too many Linux users is like going in to a brothel and complaining that there are too many hookers
More like going into a church and complaining there are too many hookers
More like going into a church and complaining that there are too many pedophiles.
I dunno man, you might be right cuz you’d probably be told to pipe it down
How so? I don’t see the analogy.
Wait, what did you just call me? 😄
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Who are you so wise in the ways of sex workers?
And escorts?
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I can’t believe my sleep addled brain read this as “e-scorts” like it was some new gaming thing.
Careful, some tech bro will take that and get a billion dollars in venture capital for “eScorts: Uber for hookers”.
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How quickly can you write up a proposal? We can have GPT get us a mockup of the ui by tomorrow and be ready for production by Friday…
Did I say all of that correctly?
Just throw in AI there and we’re good!
I like the idea of pronouncing it hook-ai-rs just for the implications on Ubers becoming u-bears.
“U-bears for hook-ai-rs” makes me chuckle. It’s just the right amount of churches up.
Say that to [email protected]
Why do the hookers get to decide it’s a brothel?
they lobbied congress
Congress is the brothel.
Why are all the hookers using linux??? What is happening!!!
I love how this entire comment chain went lol
The Fediverse is so fun!!!
That’d be us Unix socks people.
Let’s be honest, that sounds like heaven.
If hookers could talk Linux to me, or even better, help me resolve my fucking display issue, I’d be giving them money hand over fist.
Literally
And figuratively
#SexWorkIsRealWork
If you need help, I saw a fucking display in Amsterdam one time and could give you some pointers.
Heck, I’d probably be a repeat customer and have them help me rice my Linux install.
Who’s got time for sex when there’s ricing to be done!
You can do both. A fresh install and sex take about the same amount of time.
Look at Mr. I Can Last 20 Minutes over here.
Bragger
Some of us still have Hard Drives. O_o
If your installation process lasts for more than four hours, better consult your disk doctor.
As long as both remain free and open source I’ll allow it.
Because they are wise in the ways of the world.
Even Hookers need scheduling and accounting.
Heya honey, looking for a good time? I use Arch btw.
I’d never used Linux before getting a Steam Deck. It’s now my preferred PC. But it’s also super-duper polished and painless.
I have always liked Windows, but I’m always two versions behind and have never actually experienced any other OS. I’m open to Linux, but it also scares the shit out of me because I’ll essentially go back to knowing fuck all about the OS on my PC.
And I’ve also heard gaming can be complicated on Linux, whether or not that’s true.
Most games are ok, big online games are usually not (anything that has kernel level anti cheat, straight up bans Linux, or uses a third party launcher that doesn’t have much support on Linux). Usually can be overcome, but can result in a ban. For those games, you can either dual boot or virtualize Windows (which also can get u banned).
Tons of games have Proton support (check ProtonDB). If you select a stable distro and don’t install custom stuff, you should be good without knowing much besides hitting Update all button from time to time and pasting any error message you get into your preferred search engine. Hell you can install SteamOS and be eternally happy.
I hope you aren’t running EOL software. You aren’t running EOL software right?
No idea what that is, but probably not. Pretty much just stuff from the Discover thing. The biggest thing is Blender, also from the Discover.
Discover is the KDE app center. However, that’s not relevant to Windows.
I’m on Windows 10 currently, so not quite two versions behind, but I held onto XP and 7 for ages.
Just keep in mind you have until Oct of next year to migrate. Either go for Windows 11, Linux or Mac OS.
You can’t safely stay. Don’t sacrifice your own security because of some personal vendetta against Microsoft. Windows 11 is very similar to Windows 10.
Thanks for the heads up. I don’t really have a vendetta against Microsoft, I just hear a lot of moaning over how bad 11 is and have been hesitant to upgrade thus far. Even if it isn’t great, I managed to strip 10 down in a way that it closely resembles 7, so I’m sure I can do something similar.
You know what else resembles windows 7?
A default install of Linux Mint!
GNU\Linux awareness is a good thing for everyone! If everone was aware; we would have better alternatives across the board.
So is investing in QOL updates for end users, but the budget went elsewhere.
If every prostitute approached you and had to tell you how much better she is at something than your current SO/wife, you should ditch your SO in favor of prostitutes, even though you’re not there for service.
Then it would be like Lemmy.
even though you’re not there for service
I mean, it’s pretty weird for a person to hang out in a brothel and not expect a couple of sales pitches for their services. They kinda only do the one thing, why go there if you aren’t down for it?
Why come to lemmy if you’re not down for linux?
I dunno, maybe the brothel gas a restaurant with a good prime rib special.
Because the bar you’d normally go to removed all the comfortable chairs and started selling ad space directly in front of your face.
Ok, so I get you are still trying to make the analogy work, but this is like getting mad that your coffee shop sucks, deciding to go to the local car dealership for the free coffee instead, and then complaining that they keep trying to sell you cars.
This analogy is breaking down rapidly, that was my point. lol.
…except this isn’t explicitly a Linux website. Sure, it’s probably run by people who use it extensively and populated mostly by people who use it at least regularly… but it’s in no way a Linux dealership. I came here specifically because it wasn’t trying to sell me something.
If you’re trying to say that’s not the case, and that the fediverse only exists as a mechanism to sell people on linux… it might be time to give up on it, I suppose.
Nah, I’m not trying to give any commentary on Lemmy or Linux in this thread. I’m just talking about how poorly the analogy is lining up for the intended purpose. Honestly, Lemmy shouldn’t be pushing any one thing in general, imo.
I do get confused about the people that show up in Linux specific communities and get mad about “all the Linux fanatics”, and maybe the original analogy would work for that.
I guess repeating continuing to make analogies in what appears to be a serious tone seems like an odd way to make the argument that the original analogy is broken. You’re not pointing out any flaws, using the current analogy to show how it doesn’t work… just changing the setting while keeping the overall analogy completely the same.
It’s like going to a brothel and continuing to have sex with prostitutes then saying the brothel is broken… sorry, I had to.
Really I’m just disappointed in the lack of blackjack here.
I don’t care how many people use it, but it seems to pop up (unwarranted) in darned near every sub I’m in. Enjoying something is fine, but it’s best to not let any single thing become your identity or define you as a person.
Yep. Better to get to the finish line of life with no identity whatsoever. Life is meant to be left unlived.
Leaves grow upward because they would die in the depths, just as roots would die in the air.
What?
And as we all know, only extremes exist! The middle ground is an illusion!
exactly what a windows user would say
k
That’s me but with US politics, I blocked a few communities and moved on.
