• @HollowNaught@lemmy.world
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    It shouldn’t be forgiven for releasing in such a broken state. Do we really think the rest of the game industry didn’t notice how well it did? How little they’re willing to do if it means still getting that money rolling in?

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    It’s pretty good. I don’t think it’s $30 good. But it’s pretty good, I would put it in the class of interactive fiction, an in-depth visual novel.

    As far as role-playing goes, it’s good for LARPing, but you don’t really get to craft your own story. There’s lots of rails, there are narrative branches but they all come back to the same place.

    Kind of like a very well done Bethesda narrative environment, some okay storylines, some amazing storylines. It’s all on rails, you can do it in different orders. It’s a good immersion game.

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        Its kind of live action, and you do roleplay whatever you want to be. But yeah I agree it’s not the perfect use of the word.

        Cyberpunk is a role-playing game in that you have a role to play, but it is not a role-playing game where you determine your own destiny and have significant impact on the outcome.

        I don’t know if there’s better ways to express that thinking, ARPG versus CRPG? But that lacks nuance as well

  • @truxnell@infosec.pub
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    Really enjoyed it, only recently finished a run with expansion and some QOL mods. Excellent visuals (with RTX), and if your into the theme the story was fun and pretty good. Not perfect by any stretch but solid. Gameplay mechanics is fairly engaging after the 2.0 patch.

    It is definitely sad it took so long to get to here though, it was broken on launch beyond bugs - the builds you could do pre 1.5 were plain broken.

    That said, we should celebrate anyone making single player games these days seriously, it feels like they are getting very thin on the ground.

  • @Pechente@feddit.org
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    I quite liked it from the beginning. I played through all of it on PC with the unpatched release version. It was not nearly as buggy as people made it out to be. The story was pretty engaging and made up for a lot of the game‘s flaws.

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      Similar thoughts here. I was playing it on fairly high end pc as well from day 1 (wasn’t really patient with it… yea…) - Sure there were some funky glitches (eg. occasionally T-posing nude on bikes) here and there, but nothing game breaking. But that’s not to say those things didn’t happen to others, but I’ve understood the game was an absolute shitshow on ps4.

  • @misk@sopuli.xyz
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    I played it at release on PS4 and then with Phantom Liberty on XSX. It was awful game with a great story then. Today it’s a pretty good game with one of the greatest stories in this medium. It’s often brought up as a comeback story for CDPR but lack of polish still rears its head in places. For example clothing pieces still have rarity label based on how much defensive stat it gave prior to patch 2.0 (which detached armour rating from the clothes).

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      one of the greatest stories in this medium

      I mean admittedly I don’t read cyberpunk as a genre, but as an avid reader I find that hard to believe. My two standout sub-stories are the intro heist and the expansion’s main story, and while those are awesome, they’re not exactly literary masterpieces. The rest of the game’s story is… amateurish? But not in a bad way? Like, it’s servicable as the thin motivational veneer you expect from an open world game, and doesn’t stand out either way, which is more or less what you want from your open world story: To not get in the way. The last few parts are quite bad though and show how much the story must have been cut apart and pieced together to fit a release date.

      Is it really outstandingly good comparing other cyberpunk works?

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        310 months ago

        I was mostly talking about Phantom Liberty part - it is much more interesting and better executed than anything in the base game.

        • Carighan Maconar
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          Oh yeah definitely. The expansion was such a cool thing, and the limited scope really helps it rather than hurting it.

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    I’m a HUGE cyberpunk fan, so I made the mistake of buying it at release. Some of my most impressive issues:

    • Trees would draw “on top” or in front of everything else, even when blocked by other objects. So in greener areas, my entire screen was filled with trees.
    • The scripted driving sequences would get me stuck in “driving mode” about half the time after the scripted sequence is over. So I’d be walking around like a car, not able to strafe or jump.

    So, I refunded it, outside of the refund period, but they were nice to me.

    When the expansion released, and everything seemed a LOT better, I bought the game again, and I loved it! It’s a pretty OK game, with a great story and absolutely amazing sidequests.

  • I tried it for the first time this year, I put in around 10 hours to try and get into it and honestly I found it pretty dull. I didn’t think the combat felt particularly satisfying and the story as far as I got in it did nothing to interest me or draw me in.

    I’m not saying it is a bad game because I certainly dont think that but for me personally just nothing clicked, it felt like a slog just to get through the 10 or so hours I put in and I dont have enough time to force myself to like games any more so I just moved on.

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    My opinion is… so and so?

    I gave up on it initially, annoyed by it’s deluge of bugs coupled with the overall tepid and empty-feeling design.

    I gave it a serious go a year ago after also getting the expansion. I wanted to not use any mods but ended up having to use one anyways, as CDPR still couldn’t be arsed to fix some keys being hardcoded so changing your keyboard layout is annoying as stuff gets in the way. Luckily, fans fixed that issue and made all keys rebindable. <3

    I will say… I enjoyed it. It’s nothing superb to me, but it was a thoroughly enjoyable romp. It’s big upside were the visual design, in particular during the expansion and its high points like the top floor of the tower or the sequence at the space port, the great voicework and Songbird and when you meet her really is a standout in both visual and scene design. I also liked the expansion and the tutorial stories a lot.
    It’s weak points to me were the open world itself which feels pointless and a thin, lifeless, facade plus the main story itself. Character progression was also super broken back in the days but by the time I played felt a lot better, so I’m not really holding it against the game. That being said, there were still quite a lot of bugs and glitches. Nothing major a reload here or there could not fix, but still annoying, considering how long the game has been out.

    So yeah, solid 7/10 for me. The expansion is fantastic, wish the whole game were like that!

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    It’s a work of art, one of my favorite games (and dlc included).

    I have a strong PC and play in 4k tho, with tons of mods to improve stuff or change some mechanics. Better textures and loads of clothes as well.

    I finished the game several times and have probably a lot more than 100h in it. I still play regularly to simply enjoy life in Night City, and kill some dudes…

    I’m in love with that game and I believe anybody should play it at least once in life.

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        I like the ones that add a second operating system cyberware. It can be seen as cheating but you can have a netrunner deck and a sandevistan at the same time (or whatever double cybwrware you want to play with).

        I think it’s cyberware EX. I use the collection function of Nexus mods (ordered by rating) so I don’t have to hand manage hundreds of mods.

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      I don’t want to put you down or anything, but this is very surprising to me. 100+ hours from multiple play throughs feels really small to me. You clearly love the game. So I am wondering why was your first time so short? When I love a game, I want to experience as much of the content as I can in my first playthrough. It took me 185 hours to finish Cyberpunk 2077 without the DLC. I haven’t played that one yet. I am waiting for a new PC so that I can play the game on max settings.

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        I know you are right. I said that number from out of my ass as I was at work.

        I just checked gog and I am actually at 201h and 7 minutes. My first play through was probably around 120 to 140h but I honestly don’t remember.

        Funny enough, the actual save I use is from my first playthrough, the last save right before the last mission. As if I don’t want to abandon this specific V (female badass street kid net runner with katana).

    • @essell@lemmy.world
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      I’m with this. Totally agree.

      What game is there that does this kind of gameplay better?

      Only the original Deus Ex has captured this genre so well.

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          What are the chances, I was just looking into installing it again. Here’s a handy article I found about the various mods, for those interested.

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            I will never tire of beating 7 shades out of Anna Navarre on that plane. Though the killswitch method is flat out hilarious.

  • @_Lory98_@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I played it both at launch and a year ago with the DLC. It’s alright - 6/10, but pre patches like 4/10.

    The gameplay is fun because of how customizable your build is now, after the skill system was completely reworked.

    The story is shallow, the characters forgettable and the open world really doesn’t fit the urgency the story is supposed to have and ruins the pacing. The DLC is much better, but there’s some parts where I don’t really like how V is written, especially at the start, since it forces a specific personality I don’t think fits them.

    I remember the sidequests being generally entertaining, but I wouldn’t call any of them special, just kinda average.

    It feels a lot like a Far Cry game, but with much better build customization.

    • @Orygin@sh.itjust.works
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      Agree to disagree. For me the story and main/side quests were amazing and rarely has a game captivated my attention as much as cp2077 did.

      I’m curious, if you consider them average, what game has good or great side quests ?

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        I’m curious, if you consider them average, what game has good or great side quests ?

        Probably average wasn’t the right word, as I don’t really think sidequests are generally good storywise in games. I wanted to say “mediocre” but thought that sounded negative. I meant that I didn’t find anything special in them, neither bad nor good.

        But for examples of games with sidequests I think are good (storywise), I can think of only The Witcher 1 and 2 and Yakuza 0 (all of which I haven’t played in a while so I might only remember the good parts).

  • @FrustratedArtist@sh.itjust.works
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    I’ve been playing it slowly for the past few months after finally getting a modern GPU, and am going through the endings now, so my impressions are still fresh.

    Overall I enjoyed the game, but it’s possible to see that it could have been much better. There are still occasional immersion-breaking bugs like floating items and characters. Some systems are clearly leftovers of bigger plans, for example clothing that barely has any purpose other than roleplaying and taking pics of the character in photo mode. Gameplay can be pretty fun depending on your preferences and how you build the character, that was nice. I do agree that it’s not particularly deep.

    Story and writing is what people usually praise about CP2077 + PL, but after finishing the game I can say that I was occasionally baffled and disappointed. Some things were clearly not developed to full potential, possibly because of time/budget constraint. Quests mentioning some areas and characters that are involved, but you can’t go and examine those. Some are pretty damn dumb if examined logically. Endings look pretty cool in isolation, but they contradict each other when compared. In pretty much every ending V is told that they’re going to die, but reasons differ. Alt claims that the body was changed to that of Johnny, and the immune system would reject V (which is also nonsense, in the game’s world an engram is data that can be written to a blank brain, why would data be rejected). In Arasaka endings we see that Saburo needs a body that is already genetically close to him, so he uses his son. Why not use a clone? This also contradicts what Alt says about nanites modifying the body. Arasaka-related characters also claim that V’s body was damaged by the Relic, that’s why even though the surgery was a success, they’ll die. Tumors and DNA damage. But somehow if Johnny takes over the body he can continue to live in it no problemo.

    A dark and depressing theme doesn’t automatically make the story great, it still has to be logically coherent.

  • Rose
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    A solid game in its current state. Probably one of the best games of the decade for me, just not in top 5. Has that “once you start playing, suddenly it’s 3 hours later” factor. Extremely atmospheric world design. Lots of great writing too.

    Now, it does have the annoying thing that it sometimes keeps reminding me of games that did some aspect better. For example: Vehicle physics feel completely hokey. (“Man, I wish I was playing Saints Row 3/4”) Can’t really go exploring everywhere, would have loved to explore more rooftops and such. (“Man, I’ve got to get back to Mirror’s Edge”) Not exactly a prime stealth game in accordance with the laws of the art form. (“Man, Deus Ex was the shit, got to play it”)

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      Man, I love the vehicle handling. It’s far from perfect but I much prefer the weightiness of Cyberpunk (or GTA IV) over more “Hollywood” approach of most games. I realize I’m in a minority on this one but I hope they keep it in the next game (just with extra polish, obviously).

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      210 months ago

      Same. I want to play it but until it’s available in some sort of convenient package at a price point I can justify, I’ll play something else.