Candace Fails screamed for someone in the Texas hospital to help her pregnant daughter. “Do something,” she pleaded, on the morning of Oct. 29, 2023.
Nevaeh Crain was crying in pain, too weak to walk, blood staining her thighs. Feverish and vomiting the day of her baby shower, the 18-year-old had gone to two different emergency rooms within 12 hours, returning home each time worse than before.
The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave.
Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care.
By then, more than two hours after her arrival, Crain’s blood pressure had plummeted and a nurse had noted that her lips were “blue and dusky.” Her organs began failing.
Hours later, she was dead.
Fails, who would have seen her daughter turn 20 this Friday, still cannot understand why Crain’s emergency was not treated like an emergency.
But that is what many pregnant women are now facing in states with strict abortion bans, doctors and lawyers have told ProPublica.
Ahhh shit. It’s a young attractive white girl. They might actually pay attention to this one. Maybe…
No they usually abuse them so they wanna keep that under wraps, like the Catholic priests they kept moving from church to church instead of sending to the cops.
The doctors are breaking their oath every time they refuse treatment.
Yeah that’s the part I don’t get: The law is literally telling doctors to kill their patients and the doctors are just going along with it? WTF!
Do you want there to be no doctors available to help people in Texas? Because doctors ignoring the laws of where they are and ending up losing their license or being jailed just means less doctors
Yes. that is exactly what I want. I want the absurdity of this situation to come to a breaking point that affects these callous trash humans who think its okay to kill women to protect a potential human. I want them to lose their license for failing to keep the oath they take when they get that license.
that affects these callous trash humans who think its okay to kill women to protect a potential human
I want them to lose their license
You’re mad at one group of people so you want to punish a different group?
consequences for breaking an oath
arbitrary punishment
not the same thing
or would you rather to continue to let policy dictate standard of care? the law is wrong, and if a doctor isnt going to break it to do the right thing, they shouldnt be a doctor anymore
State medical licensing boards usually consider flouting the law to be unprofessional conduct so doctors are really in a bind here. You should direct your ire to the people who created this situation not the ones who are caught in it.
you didnt read my comment in the way it was intended:
everyone involved here- the doctors, the patients, the state medical board- everyone wants doctors acting in accordance with the oath they took. these doctors, while legitimately afraid of running afoul of the law, may have intentionally failed to help this woman out of that fear, and if they could have helped her, should have. the fact that “this law” exists is a question for another time and place, after she has received appropriate care.
if this law then causes a disciplinary hearing, thats how uts supposed to happen. the law can be brought into question. human beings with the requisite skills and experience to pass judgement on proper medical procedures can be consulted.
sorry, but people dont get to pass laws that cause doctors to withhold care out of fear, laws they only passed out of their beliefs surrounding conception and birth. if those doctors werent going to save that woman, who was? wasnt that literally what they swore to do? what they got that license from texas for?
you break the unjust laws. thats how it works.
im tired of oh standing up is hard
tell it to that womans family
ed to add: theres enough ire to go around. many people fucked up and they all share the blame
i’ve read all the comments here and don’t see one single person talking about what to do about it. it’s just a big circle jerk of ‘republicans bad’ like we didn’t know that. ‘religion bad’ - yeah, no shit sherlock. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
The Bible actually gives instructions on how to induce an abortion, and only Catholocism really has a stance against it.
No, let’s not blame God. The true culprit is men, men who want to make being a woman who isn’t subservient to men punishable by death. And they don’t mind a little friendly fire as long as it keeps the “jezebels” in line.
THIS is why we don’t vote third party, we go blue, because pink has to pay the price if we don’t.
of course. sure. patriarchy, religion, fascism, captialism, all the usual suspects. anybody that doesn’t get it hasn’t been paying attention.
but what do we DO ABOUT IT?
Anything at all
really? seems a little less than organized and effective.
Join a protest, start a petition, call congressman, fucking vote…
we been doing that for years. hasn’t changed much. what’s the next step?
EDIT: protests are 20th century passe’ and only affect change if they become violent (see george floyd), petitions are almost a complete waste of time, your congressman definitely isn’t listening to you, i still believe voting is effective but not enough (and may soon be nerfed into uselessness)
only affect change if they become violent (see george floyd)
Did those even change anything, actually? I just remember some statues being torn down and the police just doing their business as usual. They also need to be aimed at the correct targets for them to be effective.
The Bible actually gives instructions on how to induce an abortion
It really doesn’t. What it does is describe a religious rite that’s a sort of combined paternity test/abortion if she’s unfaithful. The idea being that the priest does his thing, she drinks the dusty water and if the child isn’t her husband’s she’ll miscarry on the spot. If she doesn’t miscarry, then God has proclaimed it’s his kid and he should have more faith in his wife.
There’s nothing in the description of it that would tell one how to trigger an abortion without divine involvement.
The true culprit is men,
Being pro-life or pro-choice isn’t strongly genedered. It’s not like men as a class oppose abortion and women as a class defend it. I think you’d be shocked at the sheer number of women out there who oppose abortion, and the number of men who don’t. It would be more accurate to say that a swath of religious folks (Catholics and certain flavors of evangelicals) oppose it, and those in their social reach get pulled along with them, along with traditionalist conservatives who are all about controlling sexuality.
Not all men, I mean the specific men who passed this asinine bullshit.
Vote
i’ve been voting for 30 years. hasn’t saved us yet. what’s the next step?
EDIT: voting is important, but it’s not enough.
Voting is simply putting a word in for a candidate to fill in a subordinate role to your company’s HR department.
You won’t always get the one you pick, so it’s your responsibility to put forward the best candidate (primaries), vouch for them (voting), and keep them accountable to their KPIs (individual lobbying).
ETA: Remember, you’re basically looking to hire someone to look after you, your family, your friends and your community for the next n years; it also takes a lot longer to fix something, than it did to break it initially, and fixed things still wear the scars of the past.
didn’t realize i was in the EILI5 sub, but thanks?
I would argue it has, to an extent. Trump winning is why we’re in this situation. Had he not, the status quo of Roe would have stayed. Vote to restore it.
If more people had voted you could have prevented Trump
This is the future the Republicans want.
Hate to be that guy, but it is also the present (hopefully not future) the Democrats have allowed Republicans to build:
Bill Clinton promised to codify Roe v. Wade into law. He didn’t.
Obama promised to codify Roe v. Wade into law. He didn’t despite having a super-majority in his first two years.
Biden promised to codify Roe v. Wade into law and didn’t. The Dobbs decision was taken in June 2022, so before the midterms when Democrats still had a simple majority in the house and a tie + VP in the senate. When there were rumors/leaks a month or so before the decision that the USSC would take that decision soon. Again: Inaction.
But also the present that Republicans have forced upon us.
I have a suspicion that a mother who named their daughter Heaven backwards might have agreed with the Republicans up until the time it affected her daughter.
Or perhaps it’s backwards because she’s aligned with the devil! You just really can’t tell and you shouldn’t go around making those kinds of judgemental assumptions.
It backwards because they think it’s clever.
Death after death after death. The GOP death cult is doing its job.
I have been saying anti-abortion instead of pro-life. But I feel like there must be another simply-expressed term to reflect their thinking. Something along the lines of anti-women or just anti-choice. I dunno.
Forced birth
It’s absolutely anti-choice. The party of small government (except when it comes to controlling people).
I’ve always used anti-abortion. Pro-life just isn’t an accurate descriptor, and a “pro-life protest”, or a “pro-life bill” seem like undeserved euphemisms considering what they want. Outlawing executions would be a pro-life bill.
Anti-choice is good too.
Punishing unwed, independent mothers is the plan.
She didn’t “die”, that implies this was an unfortunate accident or that she just got sick or something.
She was murdered by the Republican Gendercide
Killing Pregnant Teenagers is EXACTLY how we SAVE THE CHILDREN! PRO LIFE!
The people that voted for this shit have the biggest blinders on right now. I’m sure they’re trying to ignore that anything has gone wrong.
I hope someone with enough money to make this a problem for the policy makers gets after this in court soon. The USA needs to either pass a federal law stating that abortion is legal, or they need a new roe v. Wade judgement on the books. Until one of those things happens, this continual and unnecessary loss of life will continue; it is inevitable.
For people who call themselves “pro-life” they sure don’t give any shits about people continuing to live.
Anyone who is anti abortion, this is for you: 🖕
Sincerely,
- your horrified neighbor to the north.
Not sure how doctors can willingly comply with this shit. Seems antithetical to the Hippocratic oath.
Those doctors are cowards. They can’t jail ALL the doctors, it would be a disaster. They need a union or something. I don’t know ANYTHING is better than letting kids die!
Here is the oath, so it’s iffy. They have no problem with charging exorbitant costs, financially, physically and emotionally, for the training, though.
Pretty simple when the alternative is prison
Absolutely horrifying.
The second ER diagnosed her with sepsis and then sent her home because her fetus had a heartbeat.
I’m disgusted. If you are a woman, you need to get the fuck out of these death trap states. It is not safe for you there.
The second ER diagnosed her with sepsis and then sent her home
That right there should be criminal charges. Pregnancy staus is irrelevant at that point. Sepsis will kill you if untreated.
It was the politicians in Texas that harmed this woman. Not the hospital. The Texas AG sent letters to every hospital in Texas saying he would press criminal charges to anyone granting an emergency abortion. As hard as it is for poor and middle class workers, there’s no way any nurse doctor or hospital is going to put themselves in front of the Texas government. If they could they would have left the state already. (many have.) Small towns in forced birth States literally have no pregnancy care facilities because the staff has all left.
The cruelty is the point.
The nth child killed by the prolife party
Can we start naming them like we did with Black people murdered by police? Don’t forget their names.
Sad thing is that these stories don’t seem to get in front of the people who need to hear them. The media censorship in right wing media is as aggressive as the media censorship that they think exists in traditional media outlets.
Right wing media convinces their viewers that any media which conflicts with their viewpoint is fake news. This perspective is super alarming because it makes it super hard to construct an argument when every set of proof is considered a lie and propaganda.
