• @[email protected]
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    Our embassy would be calling for our citizens to leave USA now if not the pesky international relations.

    • @[email protected]
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      489 months ago

      This is definitively the president that the country has chosen. What’s there to not let happen?

      • @[email protected]
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        Well, Biden could legally have him killed by seal team six.
        I’m not advocating for anything, just pointing out what trumps lawyer successfully argued.

        • @[email protected]
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          479 months ago

          That’s the problem–it wouldn’t matter. Trump isn’t the problem, the problem is a huge percentage of the country who wants to elect him. If it’s not him, it’ll be someone just as bad. Hell, I wouldn’t put it past people to vote Putin himself in.

            • @[email protected]
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              149 months ago

              That’s one of the problems, for sure. First-past-the-post is a terrible voting system, and the electoral college is a mess. Unfortunately, I can’t blame those problems for the outcome of this election. Trump won decidedly–the larger percentage of American people want him, as unfortunate as that is.

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                Even if someone wins an election by a lot, the nature of voter turnout in the US means they at best represent like a third of the people. The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality, just in a political system that will allow them into power before even a social democrat.

                • @[email protected]
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                  19 months ago

                  The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality

                  Doesn’t look like that from where I’m standing.

        • @[email protected]
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          39 months ago

          I feel like he should attempt to order that to see if anyone is willing to carry it out, for no other reason than to see if they’re willing to do the same when Trump orders it.

        • @[email protected]
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          Well considering the seal that killed bin Laden is a loud Trump supporter, their probably just turn around and kill Biden

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      It will take significantly more pain for the fat and comfortable imperial core that is the continental US to be open to such things. Incidentally, it’s that exact pain Trump appears eager to inflict. So we’ll have to wait and see.

      • SeedyOne
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        Can we at least get a thorough recount to be sure this election wasn’t tampered with? It’s a dream scenario with 15% less voter turnout even for the right (more on the left). They’d call for one if Harris won, they got one last time.

        • IndiBrony
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          149 months ago

          About 3 or 4 inches to the right, I think is what’s being implied here.

          • @[email protected]
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            I’m expecting that to happen, from his own camp. It’d be a perfect excuse to pull another Patriot Act and turn the screws just a bit more, pushing the nation further into an authoritarian police state.

      • Pennomi
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        Barring something extreme, probably so. There might be legal challenges available but it does not look like Pennsylvania was close enough to possibly flip.

        • ProdigalFrog
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          Mutual aid will be more important than ever, join and build up your local groups if you’re able, it will pay off in dividends in the coming years.

          This election has only proven how electoralism cannot be relied upon, it’s just us now. We need to build the world we want to live in, without corporate influence.

          • Search your local area + ‘mutual aid’.
          • Help your local food not bombs.
          • Create a worker owned cooperative with your friends if possible, or join an existing one.
          • Help spread the meshtastic network to build up communication resilience in your community.
          • Plant trees in your community to help reduce the heat island effect for the coming heatwaves.
          • Create or join a community garden near you to bolster food availability and foster connections with those around you.
          • engage in guerrilla urbanism, make your community safer to walk or bike
          • encourage your coworkers to unionize under the IWW, contact them for help on how to unionize your workplace.
          • vote in your local elections to try and have a state or city government that is less hostile to the above actions, but continue to build decentralized power independently of them regardless. Do not make the mistake of handing off the responsibility to make things better to them, it’s up to YOU, and your community, and hopefully other nearby communities doing the same, but that is all.

          We have tremendous collective power if we just use it, and hopefully this outcome will result in us coming together and building that world in the shell of the old. Collective solidarity is our only solution left.

          • @[email protected]
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            Thank you for this comment. I no longer feel quite as hopeless as I did before. I need to focus on doing something to improve something.

            • ProdigalFrog
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              Glad to hear it :)

              If enough of us join in, we’ll be a force to be reckoned with!

  • Madrigal
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    4 more years? Nah. 6 months before they turf him.

    This’ll be a Vance presidency.

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    What devil has this guy made a deal with? No matter how stupid, obnoxious or abrasive he is, people worship him. He constantly screws himself over and then before he has to face serious consequences he trips on a rock and somehow everything’s alright again for him. At this point he literally can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and get away of it. I think Trump is solid evidence that we’re living in a simulation and somebody is fucking with us, because life just doesn’t work the way it works for him. Somebody’s thumb is on the scale.

    • @[email protected]
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      The day after he was convicted on his 30+ felonies, he had the biggest donation day of any politician in US history, probably Human history. Jeff Bezos prevented any news outlet he owned of endorsing Harris, Elon Musk Did a million dollar raffle for Trump voters. They DO NOT WANT to pay taxes, and they DO NOT want to pay people who make their money. That’s all this has ever been, and they know Trump would fuck his mothers corpse for a nickle and will absolutely shift the tax burden to the poor and middle class as hard as he can, and he has a majority in the legislature, and full stop OWNS the most extreme and corrupt Supreme Court we’ve ever seen, and he will stack it even higher this term. It is a GREAT time to be a corrupt politician in America, no one is going to taste a single consequence for this fuckery.

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        Yeah I know he got help from various billionaires, but Mr. and Mrs. Middle America ignored stuff that goes against their own character. Most people don’t associate with anybody who’s on trial for multiple felonies. They disapprove of guys who cheat on their wives. They would frown on a grown man saying “grab 'em by the pussy.” Trump is not a person decent churchgoing Americans normally idolize - let alone pastors and ministers. He has an uncanny charm with these people, which I chalk up to his con man ability. But even a con man loses his audience when he drops pretense and acts like an asshole. The Orange Sack of Shit seems unnaturally immune to that.

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        The Supreme Court knows he can’t be elected again and they already have their seats, they don’t owe him anything anymore

      • Lovable Sidekick
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        Putin didn’t GAF about Donald Trump until he became useful enough. By that time the Orange Sack of Shit had already been stiffing creditors and skirting the law for decades, somehow living a life of abject luxury anyway, when if nature had taken its usual course he would have been a bankrupt nobody hustling $10 bar bets.

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          Life works differently for the haves than it does for the have-nots. This has been pretty much a constant in human societies…

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      What devil has this guy made a deal with?

      He cut a Faustian Bargain with the soul of America. And like Faust, he gets to spend his days capering and clowning about his social superiors, making unholy mischief in a kingdom that is itself revealed to be terminally corrupt and wholely damned.

      Trump took the Objectivist philosophy that’s guided this country for a generation and embodied it. He is Reaganism in its manifest state. Just a guy entirely out for himself who has convinced 71M other people to do the same.

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          I always knew it was possible for right-wing populism and proto-fascism to take hold in America. A society that seems itself immune and superior is especially susceptible.

          But I honestly didn’t think it would be a complete idiot like Trump. A wannabe dictator is supposed to be charismatic. His ramblings couldn’t invigorate a chicken coop. And yet it seems people are so desperate for his ilk that not even that’s an issue.

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        He can’t be the anti-christ because his political power lasted longer than 3 and a half years

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          Dw I really don’t take this stuff serious (not religious)

          It’s a fun read though

          But hey you can argue he’s getting 3.5 years twice now (4 minus lame duck twice)

          • Queen HawlSera
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            Yes but he’s only supposed to get ONE 3.5 years

            Meaning he’s no the anti-Christ…

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              Hey, if they can cherry-pick the parts of the Bible to believe while ignoring the parts they don’t like then so can I.

              *Edit: typo

  • curbstickle
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    Literally in a car with an immigrant right now who voted Trump because things were cheaper before covid.

    FFS.

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          It matters to MAGA Republicans. Your friend is a legal immigrant, he’s here to stay and we 100% welcome him.

          • curbstickle
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            Ah, yes, just like the completely legal Haitian immigrants.

            Clearly, a well supported position from the republican party. Totally not the exact opposite of what came out of the pres elect and VP elect.

            Reminded a bit of a certain anchorman gif right about now…

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              Some Haitians are legal, and some are “legal” due to this sus app the new administration will be looking into. I think some from that app will stay and some will have to leave, but they’ll clear it up.

              Do you mean the eating cats and dogs thing? I’m glad that got cleared up. :)

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                You’re just in denial. You’re probably one of the ones that think it will never happen to them.

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      I don’t expect everybody to be politically aware, but there’s “not politically aware” and then there’s whatever that is.

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      Instead of mocking people like this, us on the left really need to understand them and how to appeal to them better than Trump. Dude is a billionaire and managed to convince working people he’s on their side. He’s winning the populism game because no one else is even playing it. Time to beat him at his own game

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        How do you get the Democrats to run somebody like Sanders when they don’t even have a primary? The DNC boned the entire country. Again.

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          In related news:

          In June 2016, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz for violating the DNC Charter by rigging the Democratic presidential primaries for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders. Even former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid admitted in July 2016, “I knew—everybody knew—that this was not a fair deal.”

      • A Phlaming Phoenix
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        I don’t pretend to know how to accomplish this. I may be completely wrong here, but two things that have to go:

        • Religious thought (“faithbrain” or the Peter Pan-esque belief that things are true because you believe they are true, despite a lack of evidentiary or even argumentative support, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary)
        • Social media bubbles (billionaires controlling the content people see, creating bubbles of “information” that skew the public in their favor)

        There’s almost certainly more to do as well, but those things stand out to me. Also, it seems hard to believe that we could make any progress on these fronts given the current situation.

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          This won’t change. Democrats have to take a lesson in human behaviour. Republican tactics work. Embrace them. Exploit them.

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            I keep waiting for the Left to fight dirty, but… We go high, they go low, and low is what gets elected

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      So sad that dumbasses who think the President controls grocery store prices and gas prices have done this to us all.

      I voted for Harris and my state went red for Trump as usual. Just sad and disgusted at it all today.

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        How do you expect people to think any differently when there is nobody combatting that narrative at the national level? That is something the Democrats could have been hammering on.

        • @[email protected]
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          Uh, just basic knowledge of how the President’s job works? Stuff we learn in grade school. Everyone should know this, but people are idiots.

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            Right, which is why you educate them and make the case for them to vote for you, or else the other side will spread their disinformation without any competing narrative. That’s kind of the entire point of a presidential campaign. Just calling people idiots isn’t going to make them not be idiots.

      • curbstickle
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        Anecdotally… About 75% of the right that I know/met.

        The other 25% is a mix of racism, greed, and conspiracy theory.

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          Every time they’ll be complaining about the price hikes under Trump, just remind them of why they voted for Trump. This is the best course of action against “collective amnesia” as we call it in Hungary.

          • curbstickle
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            Oh alongside the loss of benefits they rely on (which I told them about), the pandemic potential with the worst Kennedy, even their friends which are of varying ethnicities and going to be targeted, the list is… Long.

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          Solid distinction.

          Religion primed the rubes, and a new godhead told them he is their salvation.

  • @[email protected]
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    Hopefully dems nominate someone who actually has soul instead of a walking checklist like Kamala. Oh, who am I kidding? They won’t learn anything from this either.

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      Was that really the issue? She felt pretty “souly” to me. I’m wondering if it’s more voter turnout and people not being ready to vote for a woman (for whatever reason).

      I mean was Biden really above and beyond Harris? He beat Trump, and Trump arguably has even less going for him this election.

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        He beat Trump,

        Yes, but after four years of being traumatized by Trump voters would have turned out for a blow-up doll. The same will probably happen in four years’ time, I reckon.

        I’d say Harris actually had a lot more “Not Trump” energy than Biden could ever muster, but her inability to promise the voting anything other than just more of the same and the fact that Biden and the Dems have actually done zilch to stop the right-wing insanity in the past four years just demoralized the voting public.

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        It was Martin Prince vs Bart Simpson.

        She ran a traditional campaign on issues, Trump got them chanting “More asbestos” difference is they voted.

        The Dems need to realise that this is now a popularity contest and you have to fight a cult of personality with a cult of personality.

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        It’s certainly how it feels to me when she had a worse turnout than Biden of all people. People truly don’t care for her.

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      While he can’t legally vacate his state felony convictions it will either go:

      • The judge gives him a slap on the wrist to appear neutral, because liberals love taking the high road and shooting themselves in the dick.
      • Trump tries and SCOTUS gives him a free pass because it is ‘part of his duties as president’ to not go to jail or whatever fucking excuse.
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        John Roberts will be remembered for plunging his knife into America’s vulnerable.

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          I would prefer the judge actually sentenced him to jail even uf it gets ignored, but I expect that to play a part in them taking it down to a slap on the wrist.

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        They should throw the book at him and lock him in solitary (because gen pop is too dangerous for a President Elect).

        Yeah, SCOTUS will bail him out saying the President has to government, but he’s not President for 2 more months and the conviction is for crimes prior to his guest presidency, so Executive immunity doesn’t count. Let him rot for 2 months.

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          That would be doing the right thing so of course it won’t happen.

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    I, for one, hope that this is exactly what we needed. Shit has to get dark before the light can return.