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As expected.
This is a good lesson to those who are shocked by the win but didn’t vote.
“Huh. I threw away my vote and now they’re talking about implementing Project 2025 during Trump’s revenge administration! Weird…”
None of this makes sense anymore. How could people possibly be shocked this time? It happened before under less favorable circumstances.
While I fully support these protests, they need to be planning for the responding violence from authorities. It’s coming the day Trump takes office.
Maybe I should get started on that LRAD deflector…
Probably best to stick to coordinating movements to isolate and neutralize paid provocateurs and provide secure wellness stations, while maintaining a recording of EVERYTHING done by officials. Remember to broadcast everything, not just record. That way recordings can’t be seized.
At some point they’ll start shutting down internet access to prevent recording of their actions. But that will probably coincide to when protest isn’t the most efficient of methods any more.
At some point they’ll start shutting down internet access to prevent recording of their actions
This is an interesting viewpoint. I think the internet is where the modern GOP has their strongest control over people. Yeah, there is traditional media, but the internet echo chambers are where a lot of their people go to express their beliefs. Shutting it all down would be severing a link that directly guides the populace’s minds. (Especially for the younger folks who don’t know a life without internet.)
Imagine no more Xitter propaganda, no more ignorant Facebook posts, no hate-inspiring memes propagating at the speed of light… Conspiracy theories and gossip would become localized again, and since the people inclined toward those things can’t independently determine reality, over time their viewpoints would inevitably diverge from each other.
I mean, a lot of things could happen, ranging from violent reactions, to increased empathy (from being forced to interact with diverse neighbors in-person.) But without a central command link, a brain to tell them what to believe, the tribal nature of their supporters would invariably cause fractures within their own base.
(At least, one can hope.)
They won’t shut it all down, just localized areas in order to ‘protect the safety of officers operating in the area’.
You mean a rifle?
Got that covered!
People protesting in Seattle or NYC are, rest assured, taking state sanctioned violence into account. SPD/NYPD are a great way to train a culture in how to mitigate absolute bastards.
I’m shocked at all the election denialism I’m seeing. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
It’s a shame people are falling for that trap. Especially after all the shit we all had to hear about it for the past 4 years.
It’s the classic, “It’s good, when we do it.” b.s.
I want a way to see how my vote counted.
I don’t trust the fact that 3rd party traitor supporters have had their hands on our voting machines.
MN but was able to verify mine was counted on a local gov website.
Counted for whom?
You know my ass on that Harris/Walz with a fully stacked blue ticket. Them mouth breathers in the boondocks don’t know shit about Lemmy. 😂
Right, same here. But I want to see how my vote was actually counted.
volunteer to do poll work next election.
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Here’s where you can track the ballot. Just need to peek the finer print a bit to ensure ballot was accepted/counted. Be sure to use the same identifiers you did on the ballot itself.
If you’re lamenting over the fact that our votes “count less” being in a non swing state, hey, at least we kept the state blue in a sea of red Midwestern states. MN can continue being an oasis in this Midwest desert.
No. They are saying that they want to check and make sure that their vote was counted for Harris and not for Trump. We don’t allow this, so as to make it harder to bribe or coerce people to vote.
This was one of the main reasons why I was looking forward to Harris winning … so that everyone in the world could just stop talking about dumb American politics for a while
Now it looks like it’s all we’ll ever talk about at the expense of talking about every other important thing in the world … such as our long term survival as a species on this planet.
Long-term fate was sealed with this election.
Short-term profit year over year for the shareholders always wins.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species. He’s likely to push anti-pollution deregulation, prioritize fossil fuels, refuse to uphold international agreements on climate change policy, etc. That’s on top of the damage he will do to international trade, charitable efforts, world health, immigration, and war. He is far from the only problem in all of those areas, but unfortunately he’s likely to be involved with just about all of it, and improve none of it. As an American, I’m so so sorry.
As the POTUS, Trump gets to set the bar on the world stage for international cooperation in many parts of life.
Other leaders, world-wide, will follow his lead, either because they can finally get away with it, or in reaction to how he treats their nation.
We saw this to a small degree with Trump 1.0 when nobody expected him to win. Now the entire world has had 8 years to figure out what they are going to do.
Don’t worry, nothing will be done to stop him (till he’s in a bunker if you catch my drift.)
“Drill baby drill, frack baby frack”.
Trumps literal words at a rally leading up to the election. And people cheered.
This should tell you all you need to know. If you recycle, if you carpool, if you use public transportation. If you have a compost pile. If you refuse to buy plastic water bottles, and styrofoam plates. If you do everything you can to reduse, reuse, and recycle, fuck you. Your efforts are in vein. All of it is being undone on a global industrial scale. Purposefully. With tax breaks for the oil tycoons who pollute the most.
This is what we’re in for.
To be fair I explicitly remember Harris saying she heavily supported tracking in the debate. I think the US local pollution will increase much faster than the global pollution.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species.
You actually missed the biggest thing of all. Trump’s new world disorder is going to create an explosion of nuclear proliferation. In the new environment, countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear umbrella as they have for the past 70 years. Every country will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. And the shear amount of new countries that are going to have their own nuclear weapons is going to guarantee a disaster sooner or later.
Cartels will have nukes shortly after smaller countries with weak or bribable security forces have them.
Good, maybe it’ll end quickly then, rather than this long, drawn out, slow cooking…
Heck they even were saying they want to nuke Mars. Oh wait, I mean lie about their reason for putting nukes in space
I hope you’re wrong, this is fucking terrifying.
That ball started rolling in 2014 when we did fucking NOTHING in response to Russia annexing Crimea. Seriously, I consider that one moment to be Obama’s most catastrophic foreign policy failure.
And this is now why Ukraine has openly said they’re considering a crash nuclear weapons program - which they can do, because they had a lot of former Soviet personnel that operated and maintained Soviet nukes back in the day, and a lot of very fucking motivated and intelligent citizens who would absolutely love it if they could make Russia fuck off from their territory for good.
Nukes are the absolute final word in maintaining sovereignty and territorial integrity. Ukraine would not be getting invaded now if they still had a few warheads stashed in a bunker being quietly maintained. But they signed the Budapest Memorandum, and gave them up in exchange for “security guarantees and assurances” which were ultimately thrown on the floor. Nobody will EVER make that deal again.
TL;DR: Nuclear proliferation is back with a vengeance, baby!
We’re gonna fucking blow ourselves off the face of the earth, all because a few dudes just couldn’t stop trying to obtain power. How disgusting.
Sadly, a few protests now is nothing in comparison if Harris would have won. The Republican party already had preemptive lawsuits to challenge the election results before election day and the results would have been contended for months. There was a high likelihood of a repeat of Jan. 6th 2021 on Jan. 6th 2025 from right wing milita groups.
Funny that Musk supports “long-termism” and yet helped get Trump into office. A real face-eating leopards moment.
Americans would rather bully the entire world than participate in it apparently. We’re stuck with this now. The Republican party is back from the dead.
Like in most wars, Americans have come too late again.
This is hardly the first protest against Trump…
Dudes getting rid of the department of education so garbage human beings can isolate their children in homeschooling. More than protests are required. Real tangible steps needed to be taken prior to the election to enshrine basic rights and quality of standard for the US citizens. Democrats refused because everyone knows they have 1 or 2 senators or congressional rep that would make sure their minor majority was canceled out. This was intentional by democrat leadership(pelosi). The US voters refused to remove both democrats and republicans end masse because both of them wanted their party to have the power. Welcome to the Divided States of america. Have you had your joy today?
En masse*
americans are awful at protesting. they show up, cant figure out where to park, have no organizations, have lame chants (e.g. hey hey, ho ho, donald trump has go to go), present the same meaningless meme protest posters, leave tons of trash behind, and it last a few hours. Nothing is sustained for multiple days or weeks, and the solidarity is with people who already were with you.
So accurate. Attention span issues.
They should ship in French people. They are first class protestors.
H A S T O G O
Donald Trump has got to go!
Minority of americans are against Trump. I’ve lost all hope for average americans intelligence.
Wonderful timing! Did you ever consider doing this a week or two ago?
To be fair, I imagine most of these people voted.
If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters. Now we have people reacting to damage already done when the next chance to fix it is two years away.
If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters.
The exact same thing happened in 2016. Huge rallies a few days after Clinton lost. If those same street rallies had come a few days BEFORE the election, she probably would have won.
Of course, there is the distinct possibility that the rallies were happening before the election. The billionaire owned media just didn’t choose to show it until now.
I was thinking that too. It’s definitely possible.
It would have been worse. Fox News would paint them as anarchists and encourage violence. Nothing would change on the right
Yeah, it would have just been feeding their infinitely expandable persecution fetish. The same goes for the legal cases against Trump. It was the right thing to do, but it just meant that Trump supporters dug in their heels even more.
They can come out to protest but not to vote?
There are 161 million people registered to vote. Out of 147 million that did vote, 3 million more voted for Trump. Do not shame the actual voters, we did our part.
yall had your chance. fucked around and found out.
I still support the protests but, jesus christ, this fucking mess is only just beginning.
Remember if you’re going to any protests. Don’t bring your phone and wear a mask. Use a map if you’re not familiar with the area, write any important numbers you might need to call from a cell on your arm. Let friends know where you’re going and don’t go alone if you can.
Why no phone? Also is it still that bad with CoVid, that even outside a mask is necessary?
Because they are protesting someone who wants to make protesting illegal. Better to protest now without a phone and a mask, so you don’t get shot in the legg when he gets in power in January
It’s about anonymity. You can be tracked through your phone, and of course, by your face.
I guess I’m spoiled by my (yet working) european liberal democracy. No idea it got that bad that you need to worry about such things…
you should always worry about it operationally. even in europe.
If things are bad enough to be worth a protest then it’s probably always best to be at least a bit cautious, and your phone is one of the worst possible things you could have on you.
I think it’s more to avoid facial recognition
Enemies of democracy.
The protesters?
The commenter forgot Republicans were saying they would rather be Russian than Democrats. The commenter also forgot that Russia doesn’t run on a democratic system.
monkey paw curls
The two party system is over
