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Is duck duck go browser safe?
I bet it is chromium too.
I’ve been dual welding browsers since chrome came out. The second they started talking about deprecating manifest 2, I test drove Vivaldi and Brave. Now they’re set up as my second.
I tried to convert over to Libwolf, But it absolutely massacres my passkeys.
I plan to main Firefox until they do something stupid which I think is inevitable with their recent statements.
I’m just hoping that by the time The other Firefox shoe drops there will be something else viable on the market. I don’t know how long Brave and Vivaldi can hold out with chromium changing underneath them
Oof I was considering LW but now am worried about the passkeys. Was that from an import or a remove and recreate?
Been meaning to try Zen but maybe I should test more before trying either
Switch to firefox.
Just wait, there will be “features” that are mandatory on most sites, only supported in chrome.
I’ve dropped websites over less.
then I won’t be visiting those sites I guess
So download a user agent switcher and set it to show you as using chrome. This is what i do with firefox and i haven’t run across a site that thinks i’m using firefox.
I stopped using adblockers and simply set the entire operating system to use Mullvad’s DNS over HTTPS/TLS, specifically the
adblock.dns.mullvad.netoption. It doesn’t have all the other uBlock features, but all ads are blocked in all browsers.The big problem with DNS-based ad-blocking is that it doesn’t prevent redirects. Sure, you’ll get redirected to a harmless blank page, but then you need to go back to the previous page. You don’t have that issue with uBlock.
Yes, that happens when I click affiliate links. Blank page and then I go back.
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Also doesn’t do cosmetic filtering - like, it would remove the ad, but not the HTML box that used to contain it.
Between Manifest V3 and the Play Integrity API, Google is really trying hard to kill the open internet and android.
But thankfully Manifest V3 is only relevant to Chromium browsers, and there are other options. The proposed web environment integrity API would be much worse, as they could simply blacklist any browsers they don’t like, and deny them access to the most popular websites.
I’m glad I don’t use that piece of shit.
Firefox or nothing.
Been using Firefox for as long as I can remember now. Never had a reason to switch away, and I’m feeling rather vindicated.
There was a period some years ago where Firefox and Chrome were leapfrogging each other: Firefox would get slow and crap so I’d switch, then Chrome would get slow and crap and I’d switch back to FF, and so on. I’ve been on Chrome for quite a while it seems, until this development with uBO, well for me the internet is unusable without a shitblocker, so that’s the end of Chrome. Thankfully FF is up to the job.
Firefox is the solution people, make the switch.
Brave browser is the solution.
Brave is chromium.
Yes its fantastic 👍🦾
Vivaldi is nice, but some people may not like it due to it being closed source(some of vivaldi is open source with a closed source ui) , personally I think its a little bit sluggish.
That’s all valid.
Vivaldi is my backup browser, but I don’t want to contribute to Chromium’s market share so Firefox it is 99% of the time.
My backup browser is cromite I was using ungoogled chromium but I found cromite a chromium browser with more privacy features.
Cachy browser ftw(librewolf based browser its a great main browser i use).
I feel like I have seen this news since forever, I am happily living my life with Firefox… Although the android mobile really needs some love.
Eh, Firefox on Android works pretty well for me (I actually use Mull). There are a handful of websites that have issues, but many of them also have issues on Vanadium (Chromium on GrapheneOS), so I just use my desktop for those.
What issues are you running into?
What issues are you running into?
Tab management is plain bad, and the UI doesn’t feel snappy as, let’s say, Cromite or Chrome.
All those are paid off because of the extension ability in Firefox.
Really? Tab management seems largely equivalent to Chrome, and the UI feels totally fine to me. Are you on an older device perhaps? It’s a bit slow on my old phone (4 years old), but my new one (Pixel 8) is absolutely fine.
Nah, my device is not high end, but it ships with a SD 865, and 6 GB of RAM.
Have you used Chrome recently? It is just a better experience with Android, except because of the ads and shitty Google’s hand lol.
It feels so good to have your grouped tabs always accessible at the bottom and you can quickly switch just by tapping the little icon.
I’ve used Vanadium (GrapheneOS build of Chrome), which is fine. And I didn’t know about that tab grouping feature, that’s pretty nice! I tend to only have a few tabs open though, so I just swipe on the URL bar to jump between them, which works acceptably well.
Yeah, many of us hoard a lot of tabs, for the better for worse, but even after some simple web searches you can gather a lot of links quickly, so it is always handy to have a good tab management.
Yup, I regularly get 10+, but I clean them out pretty quickly on my phone and usually leave 1-2 open the rest of the time. My desktop is another story though, I can easily get 100+ on there, especially in the middle of a project.
i like it, tbh I barely use the phone. I need more RAM on it for it to be more useful. It’s crazy that even 8GB is not good enough. Dam Samsung bloat. I wish I had a stylus option for Google pixel or something that can take a privacy respecting OS.
The Samsung bloat is real. I have two identical Galaxy Tabs, one with Lineage and one stock, and the software on the stock one is so annoying to go back to after using the Lineage one.
Oh man. Once Firefox on Android got extension support, I hopped on that train so hard. No ads on mobile browser? Heck yeah.
Well, if my memory serves well, Ublock Origin has been in Firefox mobile for a long time already but I get you.
Although even before I did the switch I rarely saw ads on Google because I have always used DNS ad blocking (whether using my pi-hole or AdAway root version) but yeah Ublock Origin is just so much better.
It has extensions support for like 6 years at this point. Unless you got some extreme obscure extensions
Huh. I was under the impression that proper extension support (eg ublock origin) only came about recently?
Been working for a lomg time now.
You are correct in the proper extension support part. Until recently FF Android only supported a handful of selected addons made specifically for it.
uBlock Origin however has been one of those for almost a decade now.
I’m sorry you have been suffering ads all this time.
One thing I would like is to selectively enable extensions in the “custom tab” modal for Firefox.
When I open an article, and it’s riddled with js and auto play video, I have to hit “Open in Firefox” to get uBlock to engage.
It would be nice to have the reader mode button in this view as well.
If it helps, you can dig into Androids settings and use Firefox for the default in-app browser for most apps. That’s what I did, anyway, and it’s been fantastic.
“Time to switch to uBlock Lite or another ad blocker”
No. Time to switch to Firefox or derivative such as Librewolf.
Brave is actually very good and seems to have a great blocker
ps. their mobile browser has also been great on older phones
Is Brave the one with the built-in crypto scheme and its own ads?
not enabled by default, but if you want to use them, yes
i haven’t seen a single ad or been annoyed by any crypto shite so far
I installed Brave earlier this week and that’s mostly true. There’s some built in stuff that will show by default, notably the toolbar buttons and the notification style alert on the new tab page for one of those things mentioned, but you can just close the notification and remove the toolbar buttons and you’re set.
That said, I think it’s still in the data monetization market like Alphabet with anonymized tokens, though I don’t remember the details.
this is disabled by default, i think that is the BAT system that also uses crypto somehow
i also made a handful of tweaks to tidy up the UI, easily done in the settings
ps. Brave has also built-in P2P and TOR features among other features
actually an interesting browser
Be careful with the Tor features, they allow you to open some onion sites but don’t supply the extra anonymity/security of the actual Tor browser.
To add: the CEO got kicked out of Mozilla and switched to crypto after he was caught donating to outlaw gay marriage.
that was before 2008 as far as i can tell, has eich and/or the organisation continued to act homophobicly?
He got caught sending money to a bigoted organization, got in trouble, and then embraced dark money.
Until he makes it right to the LGBTQ+ community and makes his finances public, only a fool or another bigot would give him the benefit of the doubt.
i didn’t see any mentions of eich using dark money can you link me to more info? that’s interesting
You are being obtuse because you don’t mind supporting homophobia but don’t want to feel bad about it.
i was just checking to see if you were making things up
No. Brave has a history of modifying links you click on to add affiliate information. The only time to use Brave is if user agent spoofing for “chrome only” websites doesn’t make it work.
they appear to have stopped that 4 years ago and apologized for the mistake
Right, but I don’t trust them as a result and I don’t feel comfortable recommending them or not pointing it out. Meddling with links you click is malware behavior.
Also the recent case when they installed VPN. In general, they give off the impression that they don’t respect users’ consent a lot. Mozilla has been similarly sneaky, like with the opt-out ad tracking recently - thus I would only consider Librewolf or hardening - but Brave seems to be more extreme in their advertising business.
the VPN was a feature of the software at the time and not enabled unless you signed up but as you point out if software changes its service without explicitly telling users these days it feels bad
Welll yeah - point was that they installed a service without consent. And not just a browser feature, but something crossing a whole another boundary. AFAIK also, while the tunnel itself was not enabled, the service itself was turned on automatically.
according to the minutes of research i did ;-) i got the impression the service was disabled by default. i don’t know the tech details otherwise so i don’t know if it made the system vulnerable or unstable in any way. i didn’t find anything like that.
more to the point is that they should have said that VPN resources were being installed
Unfortunately I’m stuck with Chrome at work so having something like Ublock Lite available is somewhat helpful. I just hope it still blocks youtube ads because they’re the worst.
I strongly suspect that is exactly what they’re trying to stop.
You can’t run
firefox --profile /somewhereor (Windows) Firefox portable?Firefox portable keeps me sane at work. I don’t give a shit about the IT policy of either chrome or edge.
And my phaseout of Chrome is complete. My two browsers are now Firefox and Edge. Bit surprised at the latter tbh but it seems reasonably adequate as a secondary browser.
My understanding is that Edge is Chromium and will also eventually be impacted by this.
Edge isn’t really better in any way. It’s both Google and Microsoft, like the marriage of awful
Chrome only exists to download Firefox.
Sad saga, but here we are. I remember when Chrome was new and brought much needed speed and low resource usage to the browsing experience of the day. I even got email from a Chrome engineer once about a bug I mentioned in a forum, asking me for more information.
Google was already an ad company by then so anyone could have looked forward to this inevitability. Some did. Most of us did not.
Chrome has just always been there for some younger people but it will now live in my memory as a fully encapsulated end-to-end enshittification experience that I really should have always expected.
And just like it used to be with Internet Explorer, I am forced to use Chrome at work all day because thats the IT & security approved / enterprise-managed browser.
Just like how Micro$oft Windows is advertsiting Linux, Google Chrome advertsites Firefox!
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Imagine having an OS that doesn’t come with a proper package manager (and Firefox installed by default, for that matter).
winget install firefoxNo chrome (or edge) needed
You mean ’apt’.
‘Yum’ could work too.
you mean
{...}: { programs.firefox.enable = true; }Your package manager of choice :)
My phaseout of Chrome was complete a long time ago.
Time to switch to
uBlock Lite oranotherad blockerbrowser. Firefox fully supports ad blockers like uBlock Origin. LibreWolf removes all the Mozilla nonsense like Pocket, their new advertising crap, sponsored sites, etc. and comes with uBO preinstalled. There’s also an official Lemmy community for it: [email protected]I really wish I could stop using shit google stuff for work…
I have always used Firefox on all my devices, except for one: the Chromebook I was forced to buy because of compatibility with my college’s test proctoring spyware.
On that device, not only did uBlock Origin quit working the other day, but today Chrome even kept disabling uBlock Lite with the error message that “This extension reloaded itself too frequently”. It could be some kind of legitimate bug, but it sure feels a lot like foul play on Google’s part.
