• dream_weasel
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    If you voted for trump and AOC you need to make sure you never leave home without your fucking helmet on. Fuck.

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    For the people that don’t want to scroll a bunch of stupid stories for the answers

    comments from the video

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    I had to stop reading the replies she received; the stupidity made my head hurt. My hatred for humanity is growing by leaps and bounds daily. I think I’ll be a full blown misanthrope within 2 or 3 days. It has become crystal clear that we need to pull the weeds out of the gene pool. I’m for instituting a national license program to breed. You may obtain a license if you can pass a test which consist of a common sense section and the civics section of the U.S. naturalization test. 🤨😁

    Edit: For the morons that can’t tell. This was fucking sarcasm.

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      Well the good news is that the probability of such a program happening has gone up.

      The bad news is that you are disqualified if you have all your teeth or any kind of college degree.

    • Bizzle
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      Yes surely the answer to government overreach is letting the government decide who can have kids.

      You’re a moron.

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          Oh yeah, well his comment was also sarcastic, dumbass. Maybe get out a dictionary flip the pages until your well past the S section, then start back tracking until somehow you’re all the way back to the Fs, then find your way finally to the S section again and lookup the basic bitch word that is spelled ‘sarcasm’.

          This comment and all others in this thread are also sarcasm btw. /ns

  • @[email protected]
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    I saw on more than one occasion that guys didn’t vote for Kamala because she didn’t go on Joe Rogan’s podcast.

      • @[email protected]
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        I agree it would have been the right move but I doubt it would have convinced 10 million people to vote.

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          The Left pushing Joe Rogan into an Alt-Right Echo Chamber was one of the worst disasters to happen to a Podcast. He used to hear from both sides, but then people started cancelling him and Left-leaning figures boycotted appearances on his show…

          So he went further and further right as those were now the only guests he had…

  • @[email protected]
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    trump only picked up 500,000 more votes than last time. Lets hear from the 10,000,000 that voted in 2020 but not this election

    • Guy Ingonito
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      Those people could only be motivated to vote when it was as easy as possible and they had nothing better to do. They voted for the party that would handle COVID better and let them get back to their lives of not worrying about politics.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      Didn’t you hear? Starlink hacked the Voting Machines and deleted 20,000,000 Harris votes

      • @[email protected]
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        I mean cheating to win is not even a crazy conspiracy theory. It’s all the right has ever had to win, and this year, they had the richest person on the planet who has the technology on their side.

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      Covid killed at least 1,104,000 people in the United States to date. In 2020, about 385,000 were killed with Covid as a contributing cause. I can’t find numbers about the total deaths that occurred before election day specifically, but for the sake of simplicity I’m going to use the year total. Just note that the actual number of deaths by that time was somewhat lower.

      We can subtract the number that had already passed in 2020 from the total number of deaths to date. That gives us over 716,000 people who died of Covid between the 2020 election and today, and therefore could not have voted in 2024. Also note that the 65+ crowd is historically the most reliable voting demographic by age and Covid laid into that same age group the hardest.

      We can be upset at people who didn’t turn out to vote this election, but we can’t dismiss the significant chunk of 2020 voters who simply weren’t alive by 2024.

      • @[email protected]
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        When your platform is all about “hey at least I’m not that guy”, it doesn’t inspire people to vote

          • @[email protected]
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            That was also part of Trump’s platform. You can generally take whatever bad thing is happening at the moment and blame it on whoever is in charge in the moment. The only time that doesn’t work is when most people agree that things are going well.

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              The Dems also keep running as Republican Light. But if you are interested in Republican Light you’ll probably just vote Republican.

              I think Jon Stewart had a good assessment of this the other night and the fact that the messaging coming out of the DNC is “we lost for running too far left” means they will try again next time too.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKBJoj4XyFc

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              Is the memory of voters really so poor?

              How are we supposed to avoid repeating the mistakes of history when the voting public can’t even remember why they scrambled to get out and vote for Biden 4 years ago?

              I mean, if Harris lost to somebody like Romney or McCain, sure I could see that voters weren’t excited by the campaign plus the racism/sexism angle. But to just ignore how absolutely insane Trump was as President, and all the open messaging about how next time will be worse, never mind all the criminal and traitorous stuff… it’s insane.

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      Why does this even matter? We have an electoral college and turnout in the seven swings state met or exceeded 2020 turnout.

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      108 months ago

      That parts easy. They voted against trump and got absolutely nothing for it. They went back to being non voters because the dems showed they weren’t going to do anything better than trump just had.

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    I thought this was just click bait. But some of the answers are actually interesting (and scary in that way) how people can “rationally” explain how they fell for the lies of trump (“he cares about Muslims”, “he is a political outsider”, “he gets things done”…)

  • @[email protected]
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    Every single one of those answers is straight out of the mouths of Fox News. If you don’t disable open nationwide propaganda broadcasts, you’ll never fix the problem.

    • socsa
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      This is the problem. The grievances are largely not legitimate. They are regurgitated outrage of the day. The moment you deal it they are on to the next manufactured outrage.

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      There is no counter propaganda. When Trump lied and said that millions of migrants are coming over the border and committing crimes, the democrats turned around and tried to pass a republican border bill.

      They could have counter messaged about how 1. millions were not coming across and 2. illegal immigrants are overwhelmingly just regular people who pay taxes and commit less crimes on average than citizens.

      Can we please start holding the democrats responsible for their failures instead of blaming literally everything else.

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        Can we please start holding the democrats responsible

        Can we please stop pretending that no one wants that and just making it the only answer every time someone wants someone to stop doing something else shitty? YES I want the democrats to be responsible for for a third party to make it in, but this broken record crap is getting old.

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          Sorry but I don’t understand what you’re trying to say.

          The overwhelming sentiment I’ve seen on this website is that voters are stupid and should have voted democrat. I’m asking people to focus their energy on what they can actually change. A third party is not realistic. Pressuring the democratic party is hard, but it’s not impossible. They caved to pressure and swapped out Biden.

          I’m not saying I have the answers, but I know for sure that laughing at how stupid republicans are is counter productive.

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      That would be true if every one of those answers didn’t also strongly support AOC, Democrats, or Bernie.

      That’s the whole point of this exercise. A bunch of deep red voters citing Fox is expected and doesn’t tell us anything new. When a bunch of deep vlue voters do that, something is going on.

      We normally expect AOC and Bernie supporters to be very Blue. If Fox is resonating with those voters we should really be asking ourselves, “Why?”
      Why is it that some Democrats hear Fox News and immediately judge them as naked propaganda while other Democrats give them consideration?

      edit: grammar

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    These answers read like idiocracy…

    “He felt like he cared because he was an outsider”

    I’m just waiting for “She talked all faggy-like”

    “Ow my balls”

    “He really spoke to me, and her professional speak made me feel dumb”

    • @[email protected]
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      “He felt like he cared because he was an outsider”

      Everyone with common sense knows Donald Trainwreck cares about nobody but himself.

    • @[email protected]
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      Why are you asking the question to somebody who’ll never read it?

      Why are you throwing a red herring into this entire thread?

  • @[email protected]
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    Jesus christ, this is what unaffordable education does to people. For fucks sake. I mean it’s only fitting for a population that can’t figure out that someone advertising a 1/3lb burger and directly comparing it to the competition 1/4lb, bragging about the price being the same, might indicate that 1/3lb is more despite 3 being a smaller number. What a combination, people that belive their thoughts are the only source of truth while having no clue what they’re talking about.

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        Fucking barely. American public schools suck, any school worth a damn in the states will put you in crippling debt. In other words not worth a damn again to most people.

        I double checked if there actually are any good free schools and especially free collages. Turns out yes, there are some, but it’s definitely not the norm.

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          Coursera and edx provide a full education on a wide array of topics, and a lot of the liberal arts and sciences are considered so valueless that there’s free information everywhere.

          As for public schools, some are indeed garbage but a lot are fine. Unfortunate luck of the draw just like everything else.

          Learning is more about wanting to learn.

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    The lesson: some people just like disruption, and equate being against the status quo with being better than the status quo. I think any left-leaning candidate who tries to court these people in the future should tread very carefully.

    They care more about the headlines you produce than your policies.

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    I appreciate the value of honesty and authenticity as key reasons people choose to support a candidate.

    However, it is clear that Donald Trump often makes false statements.

    Furthermore, Kamala Harris might have benefited from participating in more contemporary media formats, such as podcasts and Twitch streams, to enhance her outreach. Additionally, focusing less on appealing to Republican voters might have been advantageous, as this strategy CLEARLY contributed to her electoral loss.

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      Being a complete phoney didn’t help. She had all the charisma of a late night preacher. That doesn’t play well with most people.

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            So she attempted to make her campaign more palatable to the never trump wing of republicans by accepting that she wouldn’t have the political capital to do medicare for all? No politician in this country is getting medicare for all in the near future (no votes + supreme court will take down). No politician is banning fracking (they could but it would go to supreme court and be shut down). Border is one of those areas I’ll agree with, there’s more room to spare on that topic.

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          I just find her 100% fake, like she is always acting/performing. I don’t need to justify it, over half the US population agrees so it’s really not my problem it’s hers, and if you choose to defend her, yours.

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            But nothing you said there was actually specific or precise. Just a vibe, and a vibe held by…well, all politicians. So I’m asking the same question as OP…what precisely is different about her vs other politicians that makes her phony to you?

            To provide a concrete example of what im looking for I’d say: “over half the US population agrees so it’s really not my problem it’s hers, and if you choose to defend her, yours” literally shouts insecurities. I don’t know if that’s real, but if I were asked what’s my vibe check on what you’ve said so far, that’s it. So what I’m looking for is a similar example or set of examples from Harris which demonstrates the vibe you experience.

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            She never seemed to do well in unscripted situations. When answering any questions in an interview, even from friendly interviewers, she always seemed to be thinking “what did my staff recommend I say for questions like this?” rather than “I will answer this question with what I believe in”.

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            I just find her 100% fake,

            That reflects on you, not her. With a bullshit take like that you probably just resent her gender or something. Trump is the fake, since he is purely a bullshit artist with no other actual skills.

            so it’s really not my problem it’s hers,

            Its not her problem at all. It’s the country’s problem that people like you pick politicians for trivial bullshit “reasons”. Nothing can be done about people ruling out voting based on stupid shit like gender though.

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              I don’t understand what attacking the user for sharing their feelings gets you. It’s the vibe that enough voters shared in to stay home on election day. Her interviews seemed canned and focus group searched to death. Trump speaks like a deranged imbecile, but that’s how his voters are able to connect with him. He stands apart from the rest of the establishment despite being the most snake oil establishment figurehead there is. People see what they want to see in him. He is a tabula rasa for the magats

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                I don’t understand what attacking the user for sharing their feelings gets you. It’s the vibe that enough voters shared

                Because voting or not voting based on a “vibe” is the single stupidest reason anybody can have in making a voting choice. It is based on the idiotic idea that you are doing the candidate some sort of favor, rather than doing yourself a favor, by voting for a good candidate.

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                  I don’t disagree but it’s the sad reality of the world we live in. I don’t know what the solution is apart from more education but singling out this indv won’t get us far… I understand the frustration though.

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              Sure I must be sexist, or racist. Keep going with that bullshit line of reasoning and see where it gets you. Obama is my favourite president. Nearly all of my mentors and role models are strong women. Plus you don’t even know my gender, or race, or nationality…

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                Okay but there must have been some actual reason that you didn’t state. The actual reason could not have been the reason you stated, that “she seemed fake”. Because nobody could be stupid enough to have that as their actual reason.

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            This is why it’s so important to the dems to run charismatic celebrity figureheads who will let the VP and secretaries run the government.

            People like you can then focus on how much the President reminds you of your father and how much you wish you could have a beer with him, and not be worried about boring stuff like not having mass deportations.

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              Ah the parliamentary system. The folks who want a king can have him, everyone else can get someone competent actually running the show.

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        It really shouldn’t matter. I get what you’re saying, but I want a politician to he a politician, someone who governs and write bills that help me. I don’t care it they are charismatic, but for some reason that’s the most important part for a lot of people.

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          especially since as far as authenticity goes, nobody is less authentic than trump. I think its more about seeing their flaws in you, and since trump just says everything about everything he seems relatable.

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            I don’t know about seeming relatable, but then again I didn’t have a worm die in my brain haha.

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        her opponent went on the national debate stage and said Haitian immigrants are eating cats and dogs. What exactly does “being a phony” mean to you??

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          I agree with your point, but pretend you are a moron for a minute.

          Anyone who speaks well is now an “elite” and therefore cannot be trusted. Trump is automatically more trustworthy just because he speaks like an idiot and not “the elites who always lie”.

          “Eating dogs and cats? Man, that sounds like something cousin Dweebus would say. Cousin Dweebus and me go way back, I trust him. This guy must he for real”.

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          Well yes, and she still lost, so how poorly must she be coming across? Or is it 10s of millions of people that are just wrong?

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            Or is it 10s of millions of people that are just wrong?

            Well, they chose not to oppose fascism, so, yes. Yes, they were wrong. And they are the reason that, best case, the US is in the process of undoing every positive social advancement for the last hundred years.

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                Really, it doesn’t matter at this juncture. The car was already in reverse with the foot on the gas. Now, the emergency brake has been released without any show off resistance. The cliff is right behind us and it’s just a question of whether we go all the way over or high-center on the edge. We’re going back and there’s no way to undo what is about to happen for, best case scenario, a generation.

          • Guy Ingonito
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            So you believe god is real? Billions of people can’t be wrong, right?

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                Being a complete phoney didn’t help. She had all the charisma of a late night preacher. That doesn’t play well with most people.

                You’re quite literally bitching in the original comment but okay

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            This one is on the folks who either voted for him or couldn’t be fucked to get off their couch. This time we ALL knew exactly who he was. I would have voted for a ham sandwich to prevent fascism. Dems suck but it’s verifiably true that the electorate can pressure them into action. Good luck pressuring ol’ donny smoothbrain to do anything that isn’t in his own self interest.

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        You know what I love the most about late night preachers?

        They don’t put people in concentration camps.

        They don’t take away human rights.

        They don’t sexually assault people(typically).

        They don’t quote Hitler(typically).

        You know what? Now that I think about it, she was a lot better than a late night preacher.

        • not a Nazi
        • not a racist
        • not a rapist
        • not sexist
        • not a fascist

        Wow! Why didn’t 20 million Americans vote for her?

        btw, that’s a rhetorical question, I don’t care about your opinions on her.

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    I don’t know if this kind of thing is captured very well but I wonder how many voted blue for other Federal offices but simply skipped President. I understand the general motivation behind “sending a message” and “leaving this one up to chance” but good Lord.

    This is like me refusing to “play chase” with my kid even though he’s running right towards the street. It’s annoying as fuck every time but the consequence of me “refusing to play” could be dire. After I save the little shit for the 10th time I punish him, but in a way that doesn’t kill or cripple him for life.

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      I don’t know if this kind of thing is captured very well but I wonder how many voted blue for other Federal offices but simply skipped President.

      Trump won PA by 144,739 votes, but Casey is only trailing McKormick by around 40,000 votes, which may get narrower as all the ballots are counted. So I’d rate this plausible.

      Edit: In the other statewide races the democrats lost by even more than Harris did, so I’m not rating this plausible.

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    I honestly doubt people who vote for AOC and Trump in her district are in any way representative of the swing state voters that actually decide the election. Engagement is what went wrong, obviously, but how it went wrong in those two places can be very different.

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      My state actually overwhelmingly voted for a Blue Governor… and a Red President

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    I feel like my brain is getting hijacked. Maybe that’s the point of articles like these.

    Authoritarianism prep.