Context:
I don’t want the car reporting to insurance hard breaks and such. But frankly I just find these things creepy and I just want a base model car.
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I love how nobody even bothers responding to this dumpster fire. Just downvotes. Hilarious.
Don’t get a tesla for one, apart from that try not to get any that has internet or other services if you can.
Lots of stuff here but for something useful.
Get a radio /cellular disruptor /signal jammer you plug in the cigg outlet. Wont be able to listen to radio or use your phone.
Old car if possible.
If not a basic Dacia is the least bad of the new ones.
Signal jammers are trackable. If you drive the same routes, the disruption is an easy pattern.
Also it causes other issues (like with medical vehicles/first responders) and is a federal crime. But whatever.
So is anythiing if you know the pattern.
Nah
Conditioned much?
Uh what?
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Find where the cellular antenna is, and cover it with a rudimentary faraday cage.
Don’t forget that even if you can disable its network connection (which is still an important step to avoid remote control shenanigans), the data collection may still continue, and if that’s the case the make’s diagnostic software will forward it to the cloud the next time your car is at service. I’m afraid that can’t be avoided.
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but how will they do diagnostics without the car maker’s diagnostic tool?
No privacy in new cars. So just forget about privacy and enjoy the car. They are so much fun and amazing to drive.
Advice is difficult, depends on price and preference. When I was buying a car, I spent every weekend test driving different cars. I think that’s a good way.
The problem is that if you actually have a fun spirited drive suddenly your insurance doubles because your car is selling your “hard acceleration and cornering” data to insurance companies.
This is exactly the reason why I want privacy in the first place. The surveillance tech kills all the joy and freedom of driving.
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your phone is kinda already tracking you
Just a touch.
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I always love when people ask for “how can i do X without getting tracked” while lugging a portable tracking device that listens to you everywhere you go
Everybody nowadays knows you leave the phone at home to be off grid, right… right?
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financially aim for minimal depreciation. typically thats buying a 3 year old car and selling it when its 6 or 7. try to find total cost of ownership data to minimize repair costs.
practically find one that suits your needs.
Interesting. I’ve been buying mine at 3 years and keeping them until they become uneconomic to repair. My current car is 11 and it’s still in great shape.
What is the logic behind selling at 7? Are you considering increasing efficiency of new models and average maintenance burden?
the logic is depreciation. if you sold your car at 7 it is worth a lot more than at 11. imagine buying a 1 year old cellphone and selling it at 2 years old. compare that to buying a brand new cellphone and keeping it 6 years. the depreciation is related to the markets expectations of the items functionality vs it needing expensive repairs. a 3-7 year old car generally is reliable and considered functional. obviously different brands and models differ on these curves. a 7 year old honda is very different from a maserati.
Makes sense from a financial point of view. I tend to do extensive research before a big purchase and wouldn’t want to be changing cars too often.
From an energy and pollution point of view it makes sense to buy quality and maintain the vehicle over a long time period.
It’s tricky at the moment because we are transitioning to electric powertrains and these vehicles are not comparable to internal combustion.
Buy a renault 12
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Is there a way to disable the cellular antenna? Vehicle have to be prepared for dead spots. Maybe yours is always in a dead spot.
Check make/models online to see if there’s a fuse you can pull that powers the telemetry computer. Sometimes the telemetry is part of a combined computer unit. Sometimes it’s an isolated computer unit.
Here’s my advice: Don’t buy a car. Ride a bike or take public transit. Walk whenever possible.
Modern cars are amazing and you are missing out a lot by not having one. Public transport makes me want to kill myself. I would go as far as saying that you don’t even grow into a full person unless you have a car.
Is this sarcasm? Or is the last sentence really something someone could think?
I feel like a bigger indicator of being a “full person” is getting over fear/disgust of public transit. I know plenty of people who are more well-adjusted than I am who don’t own a car.
That’s like saying we shouldn’t prefer nature and tranquility over street noise. I agree that we should be able to handle the situation but when given the choice, we should make a choice that makes us happy.
I have. The car makes me feel good. Life is just an experience. Have fun. :)
Those options aren’t really ideal.
What if they live in the middle of no where? And their job commute is 1 hour out? Biking would take double the time and they’d have to leave very early to make it on time.
Not every town has public transit either. Mostly it’s the cities that do, metropolitan areas especially. But, not a lot of towns offer travel luxuries.
Travel luxuries? Cars are the luxury. Living a hour from where you work is a “luxury”.
Saying someone needs a car to make up for their poor lifestyle choices doesn’t mean they need a car, it means they need better choices.
So living in a rural area is a poor lifestyle choice?
Where do you think your food comes from?
You anticar zealots are out of touch with reality.
Farmers don’t have hourlong commutes. I’m complaining about people that work in town but live outside of it.
Sure thing bud.
“You being born in a rural area and not able to move to a higher cost of living city with public transit is a poor life choice on your part”
Literal clown take🤡
There is 0% chance of anything good coming of this comment thread. Let’s all go do something else.
But watching this argument is what I was doing…
Ah right, not wanting to live in a metropolis and wanting to live in the mountains with fewer people, cleaner air, and cleaner water, and also working a trade that requires hauling tools and equipment to job sites are poor lifestyle choices, got it.
“If people aren’t exactly like me, they’re bad people”
You’re a bigot and a xenophobe
Not what I said, but okay.
Ok you’re a liar too then. Neat
we all know american car-centric infrastructure is fuckin evil.
look, you probably know this already, but cars are still the only practical option for most americans; they don’t really have a choice. suburbia is subsidized, and so it simply makes financial sense to live in the suburbs, especially if they can’t afford to live closer to where they work and shop.
it’s great that you care about transportation infrastructure. engage in discussions to inform, of course, but do recognize that it’s policy, not people, at fault.
Read the manual
Always remember that once you sign the dotted line, there’s no changing your mind later. That’s the advice I received in the Navy from my Chief. This is where doing your homework really pays off.
When buying a car, try to plan ahead ten to twenty years. Most people don’t buy a new car every couple of years, so you’ll need a car that suits your needs for a long time.
Are you planning on getting married and having kids one day? Maybe a minivan. Do you do a lot of trade work? Maybe a pickup truck. Are you just trying to get from point A to point B? Maybe just a regular four-seat car. Planning ahead will save you headaches in the future.
Get something that’s easy to repair yourself, the spare parts are cheap, and are easily obtainable. Some brands are extremely difficult to fix yourself and that’s by design.
As for car internet privacy, I don’t know what to tell you.
You know, you can always sell your car and get something that fits your needs better? Don’t buy something more expensive or big just because you might need it in five or ten years .
