• Matt
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    • The third route: install Win11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
    • The fourth route: install Gentoo
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      Really?

      Because nothing I use works in Linux or at least doesn’t easily.

      My 10 year old Logjtech mouse doesn’t work, at all, until I Google how to make it work.

      Then there’s OneNote, which syncs directly with every machine, no server required.

      Or excel - got Tables in Libre office yet? You know, what 97% of people use Excel for?

      I could go on for days. At every turn, Linux is inferior to Windows as a desktop.

      And I use Linux every day as a server: Truenas, Proxmox, Freedombox, Rpi, etc. It’s briliant for purpose-built systems.

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    Recently I have problem with high you and cpu usage, mainly GPU(GeForce 1060). Trying to troubleshoot it and updating drivers but so far it’s still doing it with game that shouldn’t be that demanding (timber born). So I’m debating switching completely to Linux already have Linux mint on second drive but remember having problems with the GPU drivers too. So while I like the simplicity and not bloated os not sure I want to troubleshoot other stuff and learning new os and using command line. I’m still very much noob with Linux so just want to ideally set it and for it just work and occasionally update without stuff breaking. -just a bit of rant about deciding, sorry if it doesn’t belong here.

      • @[email protected]
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        19 months ago

        And yet still manages graphical corruption from sleep, and input lag in games on a tailor-built ISO!

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          Does it? I’m on NixOS and OpenSUSE, both have been good. OpenSUSE using nVidia own maintained repo seems this avoid graphical glitches

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      Every time I see a Linux user’s criticism of a problem with Windows, it’s the kind of thing your grandma asks you to fix for her and takes ten seconds 😂

      Calling Windows unstable in this day and age is fucking laughable too. If your installation is unstable, it’s either you or your hardware

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        Yeach windows has problems but stability is definietly not one of them. Likewise linux has problems but in fact it is not harder to use ( in fact it is so easy to use that it is reasonably popular to put some easy distro in some forsaken by time laptop instead of windows for pepole who use browser and literaly nothing else ). Frankly speaking most pepole just dont give enough f about their system. The best i can say about it is that pop os specificaly just looks better ( i am in the apparent minority of pepole that very much likes the looks of gnome ). The best way to populrize linux is to have it by deafult instead of windows on laptops and prebuilds but that will never really happen ( they make insane amount of money on Markup by having windows installed despite the fact that they get it for really really cheap. Its really apparent when you compare some laptops that can be bought without the os preinstalled )

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    I decided to spend a day debugging linux boot failure, which I found to be caused by the Nvidia driver.

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    Unless you have an Nvidia card.

    I’ve been on linux for years, I work the Nvidia libraries all the time, I alternate booting wayland and X… I even use my AMD IGP as output these days, instead of the Nvidia card.

    And I STILL hold my breath wondering if I’m going to get a blackscreen, and have to go into tty mode or boot from a usb stick to investigate and fix it.

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      Works pretty well on pop!_os (with X) barring some oddities that I’m not even sure are specific to Nvidia cards (like the compositor losing its shit when I try to pop out a video from my browser and put it over a game’s window)

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      I’ve been lucky then, only problems I’m having (Wayland + NVidia) are:

      • Steam menu corruption, mostly on friends window (can be solved by maximising window)
      • Maximising browser on my second screen results in not all the screen being used, but buttons react as if they were using the whole screen (so you’re not clicking where you think you are). Solution is to resize window to maximum manually. Minor annoyance.

      Oh and I disabled stand-by entirely. It’s was 50/50 if it would return from it. I think most problems are because I have mismatched resolutions (1080 and 1440).

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        That 2nd monitor window thing sounds like a DPI scaling issue, especially if your main screen has different scaling than the one causing issues. I get this a lot at work because of my setup and the software I use (on windows btw) and I got so used to manually moving the window and smashing it against the top of the screen to maximize it that I don’t really mind. But maybe the term can help you troubleshoot it further

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          I thought that too, and things got better when I set 1x scaling on both (it was 1/1.5) but it’s not stopped the problem entirely.

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            Yeah some softwares are also just bad at handling this stuff on startup I guess. Visual studio fucks up the code window’s scaling all the time for me. UE4 used to literally never open a window with the correct scaling on my second (smaller) monitor window too but it got a lot better with UE5

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        And nothing sops you from starting a X session for a specific game, anyway

        I fear top commenter lost patience just a tiny bit too early

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          Just out of curiosity, how would one do this (in general terms)?

          I hope I never have to because I’m sure I would not figure it out lol

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            In the screen, where you type your password to log into your computer, there is an option to choose which of the installed desktop environments / window manager you want to use.

            On gnome standard login screen, it is down in the right corner, but there are many of this “lock screens” available and each can place the dropdown(or dropup, lol) anywhere they want. Just search your screen where you have to type your password to login for options.

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          I’ve yet to have an actual game dislike wayland. But you’re right, there is always the option to swap.

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            I had issues with minecraft, last time, I tried, maybe it just workes by now 🤔 I think it was an issue with java and xwayland

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      IF you are a distro hopper try openSUSE, nVidia maintains a repo on their own servers for the SUSE/OpenSUSE drivers. I have not had any GPU issues for 7 years.

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      I… have had an NVIDIA 2080ti since they are sold (so… about 6 years?) and use it daily, gaming, using it for selfhosting AI a bit with CUDA and… just works, from gaming to tinkering. I don’t get those comments. Sorry you had such a bad experience, it’s not mine.

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        Same thing here. There was a big update earlier this year that made it so I can use Wayland, where before that, it was impossible. At this point, I can’t tell you the last time I’ve had any GPU related issues. Further, I believe that Nvidia is now working with Linux for driver support, so it should get even better going forward.

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    Unfortunately I have to do both ;n;

    … or at least I will have to when I try to get my homemade game engine working on Windowsintoyourbrowsinghistory 11

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    Quite a few clients were unable to upgrade to Windows 11 on their current devices, I let them try out Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon edition and most of the switched over quite happily knowing it would let them do their daily tasks, the one’s who needed specific tools or games I setup a VM desktop for them to play with.

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    I’m a programmer at a tech company. Last month, I tried setting up two different distros on my personal computer, in anticipation of Windows 10 EOL.

    I experienced:

    • Total failure of wifi drivers
    • Graphical corruption returning from sleep mode
    • Inability to load levels in Deck-certified games
    • Critical input delays in a reflex-based online game
    • Inability to install a particular Linux-native app on my particular distro; not only unavailable by main package manager, but also by its alternative container-based strategy.
    • Right-click menus that hid the options I’m used to finding on Windows, with no visible way to turn them on.
    • Repeated overriding of my customization of keyboard shortcuts
    • Inability to assign Ctrl+Tab as a keyboard shortcut for a terminal app (Tab was unrecognized)
    • UI forms altering my selection when I was attempting to scroll past them
    • No discernible methods to pin frequently used folders to the sidebar of the file explorer
    • No discernible way to remove/edit Application entries (leading to games that I created an entry though off Steam’s install dialog being stuck there even after the game was deleted)

    So no, don’t keep telling me I’m staying on Windows out of idiocy. If someone replies to this with a doctoral on why every single issue is actually somehow my fault, it completes the trifecta.

    Linux distros need to take a step back for a long, lengthy discussion on good user experience before they rush back to making memes like these.

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      I tried setting up two different distros

      Would you mind telling what were the two distros you were trying to setup just for reference?

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        I installed Distro A, and Distro B, and you’re about to reply:

        “Oh, well there’s your problem! A and B aren’t great for beginners (even though you read they were from someone else). I’d strongly recommend, C, D, E, or F.”

        Whether it’s installing a new distro off new recommendations or spending time tinkering to get one of them working right, it’s still the same annoyance, and it’s unlikely to change. That said, if you have read that and will restrain from jabbing back about it or are just genuinely curious:

        Distros

        Linux Mint 21, then Linux Mint 22, then Bazzite

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          Thank you for the full disclosure, I think it adds weight to your post and no don’t worry I wasn’t going to argue with you about your distro choices, not at all.

          I’m a very average Joe which also when into heaps of trouble when I tried to setup a Linux distro (mainly tried Pop_OS and Fedora KDE) so I feel the same as you 👌

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      Oh, they have lengthy discussion on good user experience. Have you seen gnome argue with the entire planet about whether the shutdown menu should let you shut down?

      (I may be misremembering, maybe they wouldn’t let you log out or put the computer to sleep or something stupid because their only concept of design is deleting features and creating backlogged tickets to reimplement the same function in a new “better” way)

      Personally I have experienced most of that too on desktop. I use Linux for my home servers (oops I used zfs cause everyone says it’s good and better than btrfs and now the one dude who runs the arch zfs gitlab went awol so I haven’t updated my arch computer in 5 months).

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    I have a PC with a version of Ameliorated Windows 10 on it. At a glance the project seemed promising, but then after install it did this thing where the lockscreen background is supposedly a blurred picture of the guy who made it. No matter how much I dug through the settings apparently I, as the owner of my PC, do not have high enough admin privileges to get rid of that despite my account being the administrator…? Pretty sus.

    On top of that the update process takes more effort, so I haven’t updated the system in literally years. The whole situation overall leaves me unable to trust my own computer, but even that feels more trustworthy than the default Windows-is-malware experience.

    Next time I turn that PC on will be to install Debian.

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    Anybody know of citation software such as Zotero that runs stably on LibreOffice? I will gladly switch but this is holding me back.