just wondering

  • @[email protected]
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    127 months ago

    I keep some cash in my pocket specifically in case I run across someone asking for money.

    And then I live like a hermit, almost never going anywhere, so it’s rare that I actually have occasion to give in that way, but you know.

    Also, in my experience, it’s not necessarily homeless people who need the money. I’ve seen people (claiming they’re) close to losing their housing who are hoping to raise enough money panhandling to make their rent this month.

    Of course, if you are struggling financially, it’s definitely very reasonable to decline to give in that context. I suppose if anything feels “off” as well. (Though I wouldn’t want to bias folks in the direction of thinking that there may be any reason to be more suspicious of people in need than others.) But over all, I do think it’s something that can make a hugely, vitally positive change in someone’s basic wellbeing.

  • @[email protected]
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    27 months ago

    Do you think the best way to help homeless people is to give them money directly, or donate it to organizations that help them? Not sure if there’s a right answer.

    • 𝕮𝕬𝕭𝕭𝕬𝕲𝕰
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      27 months ago

      The right answer is “yes”. Some cash in the moment is a nice thing to do, and will alleviate an immediate want or need potentially.

      Donation to an organisation that will help the problem long term is a worthwhile thing to fund.

      Why not give a man a fish to eat while you’re teaching them to fish for themselves, if you’re in a position to do so?

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    7 months ago

    The important act is giving. If you think a dude on the side of the road needs $20 and you’ve got it to spare, there’s no downside to doing that. They may not use it how you like them to, but they will use it how they best can. Sometimes that’s food, sometimes that’s drugs, to keep them from actively offing themselves.

    If you think a charity has a decent track record and can better use those funds to serve more people, donate it there. They’ll use it how they beat see fit, whether that’s food, shelter or enforcement of policies. It may not be how you want it used, but that’s okay.

    Ultimately, give what you can, however you can. Once you’ve given the money, you can’t determine how it’s used, so be okay with your act of charity simply existing by itself, not in comparison to another hypothetical “best” act of charity.

  • @[email protected]
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    57 months ago

    No. It would be better to give your money that fixes the underlying issues why the person is homeless in the first place.

    There are a lot more homeless people about than the one you’re giving money to, and giving money to one homeless person will not fix their situation.

  • Lettuce eat lettuce
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    57 months ago

    It’s better to buy them food or give them homeless care packs. There are good lists online of things you can give to homeless folks that will help them a lot, socks are a main staple.

    I give all three depending on the scenario. I almost never have cash on me, so I don’t hand out money very often just because of that.

    It’s important to show them compassion and care. Homeless people are often treated like trash by most people. Saying a kind word to them and giving them a small gift might be the only instance of kindness they experience for days, possibly weeks.

  • @[email protected]
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    347 months ago

    I personally do not, but I think it’s a personal decision. I have a background in working for homeless non-profits. If you have a desire to really help and be part of moving towards a solution, find a local group and donate and/or volunteer with them.

    The reality of handing money to someone is at best it’s a band-aid, and more often you’re just buying that night’s substance of choice. No judgement there, if I was homeless and likely not receiving needed medical and mental health treatment, I’d be high and drunk as often as I could too. Hell, I’m high as often as I can be now. Nevertheless though, I feel comfortable choosing not to participate by handing money when asked and I don’t begrudge anyone who does.

    • Pup Biru
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      27 months ago

      exactly how i do it, and i make sure 50% of my professional life i’m sacrificing income to work for not for profits. i want my donation to be the most effective it can be, and making sure that people have roofs over their head isn’t going to happen with my spare change

  • @[email protected]
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    97 months ago

    I really can’t see a downside. If they seem to be obviously homeless or they’re actively asking for help, they probably need it. Though it’s extremely unlikely that your meager contribution will be the change that suddenly allows them to magically overcome poverty and become middle class home owners with well paying jobs, that doesn’t really make them need it any less. Whatever they use the money on, it’s going to be what they need in the immediate term, be it drugs or food or anything really and unlike others this is the only way they can really get that money so they do need people to occasionally part with it. You’d only give it to them because you had it spare anyway and it’s not going to make them more homeless than they already were. If the concern is that it’s not addressing the root personal problems that put them individually on the street or the root social problems that put many on the streets, that’s completely true but if you’re serious about doing that you’re going to need more than the couple of bucks in your pocket anyway. That’s going to be concerted massive political will and financial effort and several people’s lifetimes worth of work all at the same time, besides you can always involve yourself in some way in such efforts and hand over spare change. The only times I can really think of where it makes sense not to give directly are: you can’t afford to do it, the physical circumstances of handing it over are dangerous/impractical, you don’t care about homeless people or other people in general or you subscribe to some nasty Malthusian ideas and think yourself somehow benevolent for condemning people to destitution as some kind of “cruel to be kind” doctrine in which case you’re unlikely to have given this a lot of thought anyway and don’t really face much of a dilemma.

  • @[email protected]
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    247 months ago

    I think the debate on this issue is blown out of proportion.

    First, giving a small amount of money to someone in need is a very direct and human act of compassion which makes it worthwhile, if you gift someone money it is their prerogative what they do with it and the idea that it is harmful is blown out of proportion.

    Second, giving money to a local charity is also worthwhile, if you don’t feel comfortable for whatever reason.

    The idea that one approach is good and the other is actively bad is at best a distraction and at worst an excuse to do nothing at all

    The fact is that even in Australia, which by world standards has a not bad safety net, it is not possible for most people to get crisis housing and waiting lists for public housing are rarely less than 6 months, welfare payments can be cut off for trivial reasons and public mental health services are overwhelmed. These are the problems that successive governments have refused to tackle.

    If you can make someone’s day with a small gift then please do.

  • NeoToasty
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    107 months ago

    No. People are strapped in finances as is. My money right now is needed for expenses, I don’t have that much disposable income to be tossing it around to people. There’s thousands of homeless people out there. They need more help than just a couple dollars.

    I feel that I’m doing my part anyways by helping the needing, by donating to thrift stores, donating around my apartment and donating free things that I can. If there’s anything someone can flip for money, feel free to, it’ll probably be a lot more than what little I have to let go of from my finances.

  • Elaine Cortez
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    157 months ago

    If you want to, yes. When I see them I try and buy them some food. I also give to the local charities which support them.

  • Like the wind...
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    117 months ago

    I don’t know which are real and which are part of some scam ring. In my area there are rings of women with children selling candy. When they reach the last stop they regroup and discuss with each other then shill candy on the next train. I never give money but I buy food if they ask. I offered to buy a sandwich from dunkin for a man and he screamed at me about how he needed muthafuckin money!!! and ever since I don’t offer anything anymore to anyone.

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    7 months ago

    This is an empirical question that people are baselessly speculating about from the armchair, when we’ve know the answer for years. Even the neoliberals over at The Economist think it’s a good idea.

  • @[email protected]
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    487 months ago

    Yes.

    Yes, they might use it for drugs or alcohol, that’s fine, it’s as important as food sometimes.

    Non profits and charities are great in theory, but most redirect less than 10% of what they receive towards the homeless look at LA’s projects as the most glaring example, it “takes” 10 million+ per single housing unit for temporary housing. Not due to cost, but simply corruption at every level. From the non profits involved to the government itself.

    Giving directly to the homeless skips all that.

    Or to put it another way, you can’t fix the problem or treat symptoms by continuing to give money to the cause of the problem. Giving directly at least treats the symptom.

    • Pup Biru
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      67 months ago

      most redirect less than 10% of what they receive towards the homeless

      this is a very very bad way to think about charitable giving. if your aim is to get as much money to solving homelessness as possible, you want advertising and marketing campaigns, you want efficiency (but people working on a problem is “overhead” whilst their solutions to make things cheaper mean less money that “makes it to” solving the problem at hand)

      this video does an excellent job at describing the problem

      https://youtu.be/bfAzi6D5FpM

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        That’s nice, but there is no excuse for higher overhead than the amount of money actually spent on the problem, when the problem objectively can be solved by direct expenditure.

        We know how to eliminate homelessness and the causes behind it even in a capitalist society. It doesn’t cost a billion per 100 transitional housing units.

        • Pup Biru
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          27 months ago

          and that all requires organisation, and organisation isn’t free - in fact the structures required to organise things like that are more expensive than the cost actually spent on the problem … you don’t just up and build houses - that’s not how any of this works… ask anyone that’s built a house, and they’re not even doing it on a large scale where complexity goes up significantly, or dealing with distributing money in a manner that they have to makes sure their expenditures are justified rather than just being able to make decisions for themselves

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    27 months ago

    It’s better to give it, despite the risk of some people just using it for drugs/alcohol (addiction is a health issue anyway)