• @[email protected]
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    157 months ago

    The poor dear has learned the consequences of voting against her interests far too late. I laughed, but at the same time I’m worried about those who voted in their interests and got fucked over.

    • Ænima
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      This is just like COVID. “Do the bare minimum by staying home and social distancing to save those who cannot fight this fight.” And they all said, “fuck that, I have a TV in 4K but watching church services on it just doesn’t fill me with the holy spirit! Imma risk it!” And then proceed to make the pandemic worse than it had to be while adding another god damned fucking wedge issue into the mix of other wedge issues drummed up by the GOP and ultra wealthy.

    • @[email protected]
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      67 months ago

      Kristen Bell; she and her, now husband, Dax Woods made one of my favorite movies. Hit and Run. It’s a car chase and road trip movie that is also left wing. Mostly a guy’s movie, but homosexuality is dealt with grace and humor. It’s really funny and smart. My fifteen year old son loved it. Positive masculinity is shown.

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    Privileged people do get an exception - they can afford to fly to another state for an abortion.

    People like this think they’re part of the in group because they’re white or christian, but the only war is class war. To our rulers we’re all the enemy.

    • @[email protected]
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      Many states put a bounty on anyone found to be helping someone travel out of state to get an abortion.

      • @[email protected]
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        States specifically target liberal groups for harassment and penalty. Conservative physicians will be ignored.

        The point of these witch hunts is to torment opposition groups.

    • @[email protected]
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      My fucking Trumpy brother in law has this attitude. He lives in the south, votes for Trump, and has a wife, two daughters, and a son. His wife has had a couple of complicated pregnancies that, had they happened now in the place they currently live, could well have resulted in her death. His attitude when asked ‘what if one of your daughters gets raped?’ is to say he can just fly her somewhere else to get an abortion, because he has money. Fuck you, dude.

      • @[email protected]
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        127 months ago

        Yeah, if you can get a MAGAt to be honest with you, at some point, the core of what they want comes down to, “I support Trump because I want people who are different than me to have more misery in their life than I do.”

        If that means taking on some extra misery themselves, be so be it, as long as it’s even worse for them.

        It’s a sad type of cruelty.

      • @[email protected]
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        These are people who don’t want rights, they want privileges. They don’t want equality, they want hierarchy. They can’t say “gimme gimme”, they say “take America back”.

        From who? Americans. They want to take what you have. Now that Republicans control the Federal Government they will start to take from each other.

        This literally happened during the first Trump administration. Does no Trump supporter remember how they all fought for attention and sucked so badly?

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          There’s a reason they’re so threatened by words like equity and inclusion. When the culture of your ancestors was based on exclusionary hierarchies it can be very hard to embrace all people as equal, even if that is a fabled part of the American ethos (on paper, not in practice).

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          I remember the hilarious part where they all campaigned for years on “repealing Obamacare”. Then they had House and Senate majorities + the Presidency, and guess what didn’t get repealed?

          It was like that silly video where a dog is barking viciously at another dog, looks super serious and mean, and then the barrier between them is removed and they both act real cool immediately. Then, barrier back in, vicious barking again…

          • @[email protected]
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            2016 - It will be so easy, it’s the worst law in history. We’re going to repeal and replace it in the first week.

            2024 - I have concepts of a plan.

            How fucking dumb is half the country… At least that fucking dumb.

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            I remember the hilarious part where they all campaigned for years on “repealing Obamacare”. Then they had House and Senate majorities + the Presidency, and guess what didn’t get repealed?

            For a while, there were a surprising amount of people who wanted to repeal Obamacare, but keep the Affordable Care Act.

            Letting it be called Obamacare was probably a misstep for his administration. It’d likely be less disliked if it wasn’t tied to his name, and they went with something like “Americare: Because America Cares for you”.

            • YonderEpochs
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              I hear you, but their messaging was going to be their messaging, and it was going to be effective and adopted by their base. No one “let it be called Obamacare”, that was strictly Republican, and very deliberate. There was never a point when the GOP was gonna just allow a massive popular win by the other side, they were always gonna ratfuck it every way possible, do everything they could to make it unpopular.

              Associating it with scary brown guy was pretty much inevitable, I can’t put even a piece of the blame on the folks who fought for that legislation to be passed.

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              Republicans are the ones that nicknamed it that, to try to make their supporters hate it as much as a Black man, even if it hurts them.

    • frustrated_phagocytosis
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      Texas also has many local abortion travel bans so you can be punished for using their roads while going to the other states if you can’t afford to fly over them.

    • @[email protected]
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      If she waited it out, she and the fetus could suffer tremendously. “The thing [a doctor] said was, ‘There are things worse than death, and I have seen it,’” Farmer recounted.

      Damn. Feels like it could be a good quote to oppose anti-abortion.

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    People who voted for the Leopard Eating People’s Faces party suddenly shocked when the leopard eats their face.

    And sadly, most won’t learn that lesson.

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    Oh my god the end of that article is brutal… Yes, leopards eating faces and all, but holy shit that response was heartless

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      127 months ago

      They believe she is a piece of trash, not a person, so what did she expect to be treated like. Used her for her vote, and then threw her away.

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      Yes, heartless as she as been heartless. Brutal as she was. Live by the sword? Well ya know the rest 🤷‍♂️

  • balderdash
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    297 months ago

    When was this? A lot of these posts from the last decade are resurfacing now (for obvious reasons)

    • @[email protected]
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      227 months ago

      Looks like Oct. 18, 2022 according to the source article listed elsewhere in the comments.

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          I wouldn’t be so sure. She has since appeared in a campaign ad with the democratic Missouri senator candidate in the 2022 midterms, moved out of Missouri, and sued the hospital in Kansas for denying care under the EMTALA. Her opinion piece on CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/opinions/emtala-scotus-ruling-emergency-abortion-idaho-farmer/index.html) is particularly harrowing in describing her experience and advocates for federal abortion rights.

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            Well good for her for changing her mind. It’s easy to laugh at people like her but I think we need to have more compassion for these people. All the spiteful people on this website often make me more mad than these dipshit republicans.

            I had a lot of shitty views indoctrinated into me during my upbringing and it’s taken me years of self work and reflection to become the leftist I am today. My growth didn’t happen because people made fun of me, it happened because a close friend of mine cared about me and wanted me to become a better person.

            tl;dr: laughing at republicans solves nothing and just makes you feel good about yourself, which is not a horrible thing in itself but something more leftists need to be aware of imo.

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              We need the democratic party to be far less kind and forgiving and actually want to win elections and learn to how to properly fight dirty.

              At the same time, we need the people to be far less spiteful and hateful, because no matter what happens after an election we all have to live together, and even the people who are deeply steeped in this political theater are just treating it like WWE, it’s entertainment and they don’t even care that none of it is real, they just want to feel safe and have a group to belong to, and you could probably take many of them out of that environment and talk to them and see they’re almost the same as us. Just less aware or cognizant of what’s going on the world.

              We need to treat conservatives the same way we treat dumb children. We use a firm hand, we dominate them with simple, strong language they understand, while at the same time having sympathy and empathy, because they are just humans tricked by their own feelings, like we’re all vulnerable to.

              Now, the grifters, pundits and media stars trying to stroke those feelings and turn our neighbors against us? I have so little sympathy for those bags of pure, distilled evil that if I spoke my opinion on how they should be treated, I would probably get banned.

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                The democratic party is a completely different discussion. Dems didn’t lose because they’re too nice to play dirty, they lost because they couldn’t even pretend to give a shit about regular folk and the problems that face them. They have no morals or convictions and are perfectly happy letting the republicans win if the alternative means fighting against corporate interests.

                We need to treat conservatives the same way we treat dumb children. We use a firm hand, we dominate them with simple, strong language they understand

                This is attitude is basically what I’m talking about. You will not convince people by patronizing them, or treating them like children. You have to treat them with respect, actually listen to their problems, and try to explain how leftist policies can solve those problems, while someone like Trump (or even Harris) cannot.

                Many right leaning voters view liberals and leftists as academic elitists who have no concept of what their lives are like, and in many ways they are right. Treating them like children will just reinforce that belief and push them further to the right.

                Not everyone can be convinced, but if we want to stop this horrific slide towards fascism we need to get serious about educating the masses on leftist beliefs and deprogram all the fascist neo-liberal propaganda they’ve been fed all their lives.

                Not too long ago I was a neo-liberal, and I sure as hell didn’t change my perspective by reading patronizing comments online. I happened to start watching a black youtube creator (FD signifier) who explains concepts like white supremacy, the patriarchy, and capitalism without being hostile or patronizing to viewers who disagree with him. He gave me a way out of that line of thinking that minimized my feelings of shame from having been so ignorant.

                I’m not going to pretend to know what the average person should do to combat misinformation but I can tell you with certainty that treating people who disagree with you like children, or patronizing them in any way is simply not an effective at changing their minds.

                By all means make fun of trump, fascists, etc, but if you’re not prepared to calmly explain why these people are bad, people will just think you’re saying it because you want “your team” to win.

                Sorry for the long essay.

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                  I fundamentally think you can’t talk to them like adults in 90% of circumstances, and I am speaking as someone who was raised conservative and realized I had a brain around 22 because I saw too many friends die in an unnecessary war and things weren’t making sense around me.

                  The conservative mind IS simple, you changed your mindset for altogether different reasons, and because you CAN change and adapt, you require a different approach, but for the died-in-wool, opinionated midwest conservative screaming about the bible and “killing the gays” they don’t have any clue about policy, they can’t form theory of mind, they were never trained to think in words and logic, they live in a world of reaction and feeling and cannot separate belief from choice when it comes to making decisions. IE: the WWF Wrestlemania Effect. They want a thing to be real, so they believe it and then believe they always believed it, because they don’t have the mental capacity to hold a long-term mental narrative in their mind.

                  This sounds like I am being really harsh but I swear, at least for EVERY conservative that I ever grew up with, have been exposed to, and lived with, they are dumber than rocks. I am not essentializing, they are humans like everyone, but our society and system failed them, their parents failed them, and they were never given the proper perspective and tools to understand their own minds and how to look at the world the way you or I might. They have been essentially made into another species that thinks differently on a fundamental level and I cannot stress this enough, even if you haven’t experienced this, either you aren’t around many or you haven’t had the blackpilling realization just how bad it is.

                  I went through some of the worst depressive episodes of my life when I realized how bad it actually is out there, and how few people really understand how bad it is.

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    It’s a sad reality that most pro-life stance people don’t understand that most pro-choice people are also pro-life. It certainly doesn’t help that some extremists rant loudly about 9th month abortions. But a lot of people who don’t like the idea of abortion still understand the need for it, both medical and otherwise, and believe the decision should rest with the parent and doctor, not the government. If there was more open an honest communication then there probably wouldn’t be as many single-issue voters voting Republican because of this issue.

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      There are few situations where I would choose abortion, however if my wife or daughter needed an abortion for whatever reason, I’d want it to be legally available from a qualified healthcare provider with minimal wait time. This business of having to leave the state/country to get an abortion is fucking ridiculous.

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        Exactly. I thought I was pro-life years ago because I personally wouldn’t consider an abortion outside of medical issues. But I also didn’t presume to make decisions for other people. It took a friend explaining to me that my position makes me pro-choice for me to understand. The Republicans have done a good job of framing the pro-choice stance as wanting to kill babies, and the pro-choice people haven’t done a good job explaining that it’s not.