Get a government job they said, it’s super safe and secure they said.
“The Deep State appreciates your hard work, know how, and dedication. Come work for us from home and help stymie the Shallow State”
It did seem weird to me that Harris or any of the other democratic candidates campaigned on remote work. Seems like a smart pro-worker position to take that would directly impact a group she was trying to court: college educated professionals who skew male. Plus lower environmental impact, cheaper gas, more opportunities for working parents, etc.
The cynical reason I assume it wasn’t a talking point is because the 1% who directed the media conversation had a vested interest in return to pre-Covid status quo.
Campaigning on remote work doesn’t really resonate with blue collar workers, though.
They’ve got to be where the work actually is to do their job.
It’s only the “paper pushers” who have the provelege of working remotely.
So, he and his cabinet will be working 8 hours a day at least 5 days a week in DC ? Can we get that in written please ?
Maybe not in DC, but don’t underestimate how many hours most of these psychopaths actually work. They do come to work (maybe not in DC, but to some office somewhere) and work for 100 hours a week, because they place no value on anything other than work. You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.
Trump is a different story. He’ll say the golf course is his office, where he makes his deals.
Disagree. When you look at their schedules a lot of work hours are actually like lunch meetings or golf trips or whatever they need to do to justify networking without actual work.
I remember my last job, I would have to take days off for sick days, or half days for the Dentists. My boss however would send out emails like “Hey I am going out of town to Palm Springs, I’ll be there for 3 weeks, I will be available for phone from the golf course so I am really only taking 2 days of PTO”
There’s no way Musk “works” 100 hours a week. How do you think he’s found all this time to spend with his new bestie Donald? By all accounts the guy spends a significant amount of his time playing video games and on Twitter. His “work” is lunch meetings and zoom calls with the board where he just spitballs a bunch of nonsense.
Their work is a lot different than the work we do. (it’s not harder)
You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.
I can definitely fault them for that
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It sounds like he would have the authority to require in-office work.
https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/telework-faq/remote-work/
Does an employee have a right to engage in remote work?
No. Remote work is not a universal employee benefit or an employee right.
Can a manager deny a request for remote work?
Yes. Because of the policy and potential costs implications of remote work arrangements, agencies should evaluate and consider such requests (especially those submitted primarily for the convenience of the employee), on a case-by-case basis, highlighting the cost effectiveness and business benefits to the agency or organization.
Can a manager terminate an existing remote work arrangement?
Yes. An agency may determine that a remote work arrangement no longer meets the business needs of the organization or that the arrangement negatively impacts the employee’s performance. However, terminating a remote work arrangement, particularly if the employee resides outside the local commuting area of the agency worksite, may require additional considerations. If the decision is made to terminate the remote work arrangement for business reasons, there may be costs implications for the agency to consider.
That being said, my guess is that at least some federal employees probably pretty much have to work outside of the office, just because of the nature of the job – like, it may be travel-intensive. I guess they could end work-from-home stuff.
We owe commercial real estate investors exactly jacksh’t. This is, at least in part, about securing income for commercial landlords. Their “jobs” aren’t any more precious than anyone else’s jobs that are being impacted hard by this changing era. If they would like to fill their buildings, they can fork over some cash to convert parts of them to housing.
Not landlords. About securing investments in commercial real estate.
Which given its traditional status as a rock solid baseline for investors, its not at all surprising that two rich fuckers are pushing hard to shore up commercial real estate. It probably makes a significant part of their investments.
I agree! If Elon musk cannot show up to his offices at Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, xAI, and Washington for 8 hours Monday-Friday, he should be fired without severance as CEO or co-chair of his government department.
Rules for thee, not for me.
Working from home for all jobs that it is compatible with should be a mandate to help lower the amount of gas necessary for commuting.
And avoiding government inefficiency, exactly what their dept is actually supposed to be advising on
To help bring good jobs to rural locations, that’s how you convince people
That hurts their profits
You think these ghouls don’t have tons of investments in oil.
Yep but that means you’re not buying gas, which is a crime
Exactly! People died for this gas, don’t you care???
Then they aren’t really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.
They are about more efficiency in enriching themselves. Forcing people back into inefficient office-based work is just a tool to fire huge chunks of them while filtering for those easier exploited.
Efficient for whom? The rich all have millions invested in commercial real estate so if it’s not about voluntary resignations it’s about that.
they already said it themselves: “Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome” so no, it was never about efficiency. at all.
Don’t you love when someone from outside talks big shit pretending to know what YOUR job is and determining its not needed?
Almost like firing people based on code written didn’t backfire last time…
Read Project 2025, the plan is to get rid of federal employees and replace them with Trump loyalists.
Agreed 100%. I used to work a hybrid schedule and I was much more efficient when I was at home and could be both relaxed and not distracted or annoyed by coworkers.
But think of the billions of dollars of now unused office space. That’s horrible for real estate pricing, which is where many of these fucks are invested.
And billions of barrels of oil no longer being used and going to waste from all the travel not happening and extra heat needed.
It’s not even a real estate issue sometimes. I worked in an office in an industrial facility- printing custom boxes. Everyone in an office job was on a hybrid schedule. No one’s job required them to be at the office. All conversations were by Slack, all meetings were by Zoom even if we were all in the office. They could have knocked down the office space and put in at least two more industrial printers. Considering how backed up we got around Christmas, that would have helped them.
Some of this is just old assholes who think people need to be in the office all the time so they can watch them or something. I don’t know.
At least they didn’t make me wear a tie.
My last job was highly similar. It honestly would have been more tolerable (the stress) if I’d just been able to work from home… I mean it’s not the sort of job you could pretend to do if not being monitored, it was metric-driven and triggered by customer contact… so what’s the point?
They said “we want to foster communication so having people in the office does that!” Umm my department is the only one in the company that is chained to our desk…? We can’t get up because we have to be available for contacts… and when people come by to talk to us, it’s usually a bad thing because they are interrupting actual real work. To top it off, our cube cell thing was right next to the door where everyone hung out waiting for each other to go to lunch, and because we were the only department that did external contact, they didn’t even think to shut the fuck up.
I’ll never willingly work in an office again. Not just because my disability makes commuting difficult sometimes, but because the environment is just -bad-.
Yeah, it’s miserable. I wasn’t kidding about the tie part either. Pretty much the only thing I liked about that job is that no one cared if I showed up in a T-shirt and sweatpants.
Dude, that’s been every job for 40 years.
It absolutely hasn’t from my own personal experience. Maybe it’s the industry you’re in, but I’m amazed you haven’t at least seen things like people on their lunch breaks outside or in a restaurant or whatever wearing a tie.
Why? I think businesses should be left alone to decide.
They’re talking about federal employees
Let the managers decide, then.
If we won’t let logic or evidence do it, at least the people working directly with their teams and having to deal with them should do it.
“iT’s Up To ThE sTaTes!!!1!”
So the government telling businesses how they have to operate is small government now?
Yes. Much more power to a small amount of rich morons and sycophants while firing most people actually doing government day-to-day work makes the government smaller…
Oh we’re well beyond “small government” at this point.
I assume they mean all government positions. Hey look at that it’s in the headline
So small it’ll fit right in your vagina.
Back to the grind slaves. /S
Why the /s? They’re not being sarcastic and you’re just quoting them.
god I fucking hate these people. Pure fucking hatred.
“Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome”. this is and was always the reason american businesses were eager to force everybody back tp work. eat the rich.
Don’t forget to include giving middle-management a reason to exist as well as justifying the commercial properties expenses! Man do I hate capitalism…
