Or at least less so than Reddit. It’s good, but, I can’t put my finger on it. Even when the content is good, the servers are up, and I’m getting notifications responding to comments, it’s never come to me doomscrolling for hours.
Edit: Guys, guys, I’m not trying to say Lemmy should be addictive or Reddit is better because it is. The opposite. I thought being addicted to something was always a bad thing? I was just curious as that I rarely ever see the content droughts people talk about, so I can scroll for as long as I want to with no interruptions, but unlike with Reddit, I don’t, and I would want to know a reason why. Is it psychological? Something behind the scenes? The type of people here?
No bots or people posting the same videos/posts that get 1k+ karma trying to make money by selling accounts.
It doesn’t have the user base of Reddit so it doesn’t feel as addictive but I think with time it could get on par with Reddit.
The biggest issue is Lemmy shows old posts for too long on the front page
Change sorting to “Top 6hr”. I browse by Hot sometimes but that’s my primary sort atm
That doesn’t have to be a bad thing. I commented on posts that were weeks old or a month old. Reddit had this bad habit that everything older than 30 minutes was irrelevant already.
Sure, seeing old posts doesn’t help to create an image of activity. But don’t think that something old is irrelevant, unless it’s a news post.
It’s like listening to the best band in your town and then comparing it to the music at the top of the global charts. The pure scale means you’re gonna get better bands if you include “everyone”. But I totally also hope Lemmy gets bigger. As a platform it isn’t inferior in terms of UX. We just need everyone to switch.
Tbh, I find most of the music on top of the global charts to be obnoxious bullshit.
That’s fair. Let’s rather go with a music platform. That has everything.
I find it’s better when I sort by top 6h
The biggest issue is Lemmy shows old posts for too long on the front page
There is an easy solution to that:
I feel like it’s visiting a friendly village I love rather than getting lost in a city that’s interesting because it’s awful. Honestly, I come here as much as I did reddit at this point. Less flashy. More endearing.
There’s good.things and bad things about it…
Personally, I’d begun to feel shackled by Reddit having gotten so overly moderated in recent years.
When someone is a fucking idiot and says idiot things I should be allowed to tell them they’re a fuckin idiot.
Reddit started protecting the idiots’ feelings over protecting people’s right to tell them they’re fucking idiots and maybe that’s how the fediverse will become too since people have become so accustomed to it but I like being able to call out the stupidity as much as I like genuine engagement and informative content.
I hate a lot of the low effort I’m a comedian bullshit that reddit allowed to run rampant in the last few years because no one was allowed to tell them they’re stupid.
It’s not supposed to be. It doesn’t jam endless recommendations in your feed once you’ve gotten at the end of the new, fresh content. I feel like it’s a feature, not a bug, to have platforms that don’t optimise for time spent on them, because they don’t need our attention to show us ads.
Honestly an optional recommendation feature would be cool.
Yeah, I’d like it too, but I suppose it’s a lot of work.
Exactly. Places/communities like Lemmy can and should serve different functions for different people - newsfeed, forum, meme collection/dumping ground - but the fine line between value and addiction gets obliterated by moneyed interests.
The only person here answering the question lol
There is no karma system so no people shitposting and reposting as much to pump up their score. Without this kind of gamification there is less noise.
So then what are the up/down votes for?
Individual post/comment votes. They would only get used for post/comment sorting at best. Nothing more.
Cool, thanks!
Basically, no dark patterns built to keep you scrolling.
I’m so happy this is the top comment when I came in here. We’re not centralized social media that requires constant content generation to acquire more views and we shouldn’t try to treat it as such. Donate to your instances when you can, contribute to communities you care about with posts/comments, and then when you reach the end of your feed log off. How forums are supposed to be imo.
I never realized all this but it’s so true. I browse and comment until I’m caught up, then log off.
Wow
Exactly. It shouldn’t be addictive. It should fill a purpose.
Reddit did not fill a purpose. It was mainly skreee all day.
While I’ve some Reddit behavior here for the most part it’s been discussions.
I lean right. I’m not far right. I’m socially more left but fiscally I’m more right.
Reddit was just skreee to me.
Fiscally right?? Does that mean you write a check to Jeff Bezos every month?
Oh fuck that dude. I strongly dislike bezos. His whole business plan is abuse everyone. That’s not my style
I just don’t get this “fiscally conservative” bullshit. You want to cut taxes on the rich as infrastructure continues to crumble? You want to hide your money in offshore bank accounts? You want to implement legislation that funnels unregulated money into corporate bank accounts then forgive all the debt? You want to use campaign finance to accept bribes then have the courts make it legal?
Edit: Maybe it’s you want to raise the national debt to record numbers then years later pretend all the sudden to be “worried about the deficit” and refuse to raise the debt ceiling and threaten to shut down the government.
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Be patient.
Lemmy is still establishing itself as the goto replacement for Reddit. New communities are popping up all the time and more users will come.
I’m excited for it! I’m personally trying to build some of the really niche communities that were big before, like the tiny EarthBound one.
Thing is, though, is the site really growing? After most have just put up with Reddit’s bullshit, I can’t really find recent statistics of Lemmy’s active user base. And the few results I could find just show it’s being stagnant, or even shrinking. I could be wrong, though, if it is growing, even better!
Growing is not linear, particular not when competing with a larger alternative.
What basically needs to happen is that Reddit needs to fuck up a couple of more times. Some smaller stuff will net some users, largest stuff, many. After a while critical mass has been reached and it’ll be easier to grown naturally.
Well, that’s at least what I think needs to happen. I’m fully confident Reddit will fuck up as well. Though, this is a marathon, not a sprint.
fedidb.org is good.
We’re still in the downturn from users who tried Lemmy, and then stopped using it. They are now dropping off the active usercount, causing it to go down.
Total usercount is still increasing, meaning new users are still finding their way here.
That’s actually a much more likely situation, sinc all of these sites use the monthly active users of it’s main metric, and it’s been 2 months since Reddit shot itself in the foot.
Honestly, I was so close to not using Lemmy at all. It looked so alien to me, like is this really the next most popular community website to Reddit? But no matter how clunky and unintuitive it was, I was determined to make it work. After some good third party apps, I’m more than satisfied.
However, can’t be said for everyone. It’s clear most people made an account, had no idea what an “instance” was, and then just gave up. Lemmy should invest in making their main website easy to learn and get the hang of, and try to become more popular, accessible, and branch out. Some might say how small it is gives it charm, but undeniably more people (maybe not on one instance) is better.
What this first wave has done is moved over a lot of early adopters, those types of people overlap with innovators.
Lemmy improved massively during the wave, and we are now getting great apps.
I for one will push for making signing up for an account in Thunder possible, so we can build better UX around joining Lemmy.
Lemmy itself has also seen a big jump in quality. There is now Photon, an alternative frontend that’s a lot slicker, and can be installed by instances to replace the current webUI.
The next time something triggers people to go look for something else, Lemmy will be looking a lot more ready.
Have a look at [email protected]
Communities are growing
It’s a mix of not neverending content (yet) and it’s not designed to keep you in. I’m sure Reddit has had people who only work on increasing the doom scrolling.
Yes, i feel the same and I love it.
I like it but yeah there’s a lot less users so less content. Hopefully it keeps growing and the communities get more active.
Do any apps provide native notifications yet? I’d love to get alerts in my notifications bar rather than having to open the app and go through each account.
Yes, Infinity does.
Agree’d, people aren’t contributing enough so it seems dead after a 30min check per day (might not be a bad thing).
If lemmy is to thrive and survive, post, comment and start discussions. That’s what is addictive and provides value.
There are algorithms working in the background on Reddit to keep you there. Same with pretty much all “social media”. They aren’t on Lemmy. The point of Reddit is to keep you there, and shove as many ads down your throat as possible. Ads don’t exist here, and no one (as far as i can tell) is making money from you being here.
Yeah, there is less content, but that’s not really the biggest reason.
There are algorithms working in the background on Reddit to keep you there. Same with pretty much all “social media”. They aren’t on Lemmy. The point of Reddit is to keep you there, and shove as many ads down your throat as possible. Ads don’t exist here, and no one (as far as i can tell) is making money from you being here.
I agree with what you’re saying about the algorithms sucking you in, but disagree that’s the biggest reason. Lemmy just doesn’t have a lot of content, browse HOT or go through your subscriptions and you’re done pretty quick.
If you run out of items to view on Lemmy, you can always go out and, like, engage with family, or hobbies, or grass-touching…
Na, you’re being silly now.
We just need to get those mods from ask historians here and the millions will come I’m sure
post, comment and start discussions. That’s what is addictive and provides value.
Just want to +1 this. You’d be surprised how “addictive” it can be to get active. And probably more valuable to you too.
No, I will not discuss this with you, nor will I write a comment.
Massively. If you can contribute, ask and learn on a discussion then you get WAY more out of it.
Lemmy is perfect for that atm, reddit you’d get immediately drowned out or some dickhead just dismissing your point and that’s it, done.
Despite being a smaller community, I find I’ve been getting significantly more replies on Lemmy. Maybe it’s easier to get noticed.
Reddit’s continuous contributions were more shitposts and inside jokes though, so the little I do read here feels a lot more personal and more in depth. It’s pretty nice.
I needed excuses to get the hell off my phone more anyway.
i think also u [sometimes] need to wait 6-12 hours because people arent viewing,commenting,upvoting when they are asleep,working, or busy with life.
Thunder’s latest update added a dismiss read posts feature, it lets you remove read posts on demand as you scroll, “refreshing” the feed with content you haven’t seen, but without actually refreshing the page.
Lets you scroll a lot deeper into the feed without it feeling “dead” or “stale”.
Good to know!
I browse about 5 hours a day according to my phone lol
Not sure. Sort by “All” and “New” and there’s a lot.
Not sure how this statement will age, but I feel Lemmy is here to stay. At least for now. Means it will likely grow over time.
You say this like it’s a bad thing.
Precisely the opposite. It’s great! Especially since I rarely stop due to a lack of content, since I’m always on New (but sometimes I’m prevented from seeing because the server’s down).
It was actually because there’s been so much content, yet I still spend a relatively healthy amount of time on the site. Why? On the surface, it’s the same thing, but in practice, it’s not.
I find it just addictive enough. There are definitely lulls in activity, but they’re short-lived and I have things I should be doing besides shitposting so it’s actually helped me.
The quality, however, is much higher. This can be very subjective, but I do have some real world evidence. The number of times I’d show someone a meme and have them say “Please send that to me” has definitely gone up since I switched to the fediverse.
That’s really sweet.
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:O
this is some really good awareness, i think… and that other thing is getting worser and worser for some reason…
Perhaps you require more ragebait?
If so, you’re stupid, your thought is stupid and your choice in underwear is stupid.
Excuse you. I may be stupid, but my underwear is soft and comfortable.
What a sad little man
whoosh
Even when someone is really raging in comments, I purposely frame it as sarcasm so I don’t engage. But here I am, engaging. Yep, just like Reddit for me.
To serve the thread topic, I have about an hour a day free for some social media, regardless of the platform mix. Gave up Reddit as it got bumped.
I’m enraged.
It’s really good in small doses, like early Reddit used to be. You can quickly exhaust the best posts of the morning/afternoon/evening before you’re basically browsing by “new”.
It reminds me of the times when reddit would get notably slower and weirder during certain times of the day. Before it became an endless 24/7 stream of content.
