Imagine the brouhaha if it were musk or bezos. All the justice felt over this is just venting with no effect on IRL events. Matter of fact, his job will likely be filled sooner rather than later. This will be just a minor blip on the big screen of history
It at least has the effect of getting us to imagine if it were Musk or Bezos.
That’s true of almost everything. Especially our comments here. But if people find solace in karma, I’m not going to bash them for it.
People really want to celebrate this as a class war victory, but it was probably just about money or personal drama.
The reason doesn’t matter all that much, although the CEOs wife says there were threats to him about lack of coverage so it’s very possible, the point is a parasite was exterminated.
Consider the effective sentiments being expressed, regardless of the true cause…
That’s what I’m saying - the sentiments are “Hooray for our side!” but more likely the guy’s estranged wife or a business rival hired the hit man.
This post doesn’t congratulate the murderer for their actions. It calls into question people’s focus on this one death versus preventable ones die to denied insurance claims. This post isn’t doing the thing you think it is.
Over 100 Americans have died from diabetes since this guy was shot. Where are the headlines for all of them? Does the fact that they were murdered by a system instead of an individual make their deaths less noteworthy?
I mean to be fair we’re all here clicking on this one to cheer at the guy. News organizations are going to run stories that get them clicks. While we may consider his death important and noteworthy, none of us are going to click and read an article about how Joe Random died from his heart failure or diabetes.
Maybe not, but we absolutely click on an article detailing just what the fuck e.g. the government is actually going to do about it.
Also, there’s something like an average of 47 gun deaths per day (not sure if this site is including suicides, if it is then it’s roughly half without it). But CEOs matter more than Average Joe.
Who’s losing their mind? I find this based as hell.
Who’s losing their mind?
Other insurance company CEOs.
Tim Walz made some gross tweet mourning this guy and calling it a tragic loss. Kinda underlines the whole “Democratic establishment is out of touch” line we’ve been hearing since the election
More Americans die every year because of lack of access to medical care than from all of our wars combined.
Can I get a source on this? This sounds like a wild figure!
3000 a day from heart disease
Actual research finds that annual “deaths caused due to lack of insurance” is around 40-50 thousand
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Actual research finds that annual “deaths caused due to lack of insurance” is around 40-50 thousand (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2775760/)
and “if the usa had healthcare as good as france, 101 thousand annual deaths would be prevented” (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-deaths-rankings-idUSN0765165020080108/)
as for war deaths, the ~100 thousand barrier is breached when all wars back to the korean war (1950-1953) are included. Then world war 2 is massively over
so the literal truth of the original statement is that it’s maybe mostly correct if you consider “our wars” to only be wars that the usa played a key role in starting, and only count the last century, but false if not
(eg. the civil war would totally blow the number out of the water, world war 2 would totally blow the number out of the water, and with the unpopular vietnam war it would depend on what exactly your standards of “lack of access to medical care” are)
You’re only considering people without health insurance, not people who have it, but are denied coverage, or can’t afford it even with coverage.
if you totally ignore the second study, sure
People without health insurance are still victims of our broken health system.
This is just another proof that we live in a capitalist dystopia. Only rich lives matter.
This is stupid because I have not seen one comment from anyone other than other CEOs that is not celebrating his death.
That’s the point. You did it. You discovered the discrepancy. No one cares and Infact we are celebrating. However the police are pumping money into mass manhunt, news is juicing the story nonstop. 10k reward for info. Obviously the powers that be care and care a lot that a CEO got shot. You don’t. I don’t. And yet by time it’s over, hundreds of thousands of dollars will have been spent in man-hours hunting this guy down. An amount of money that would be ridiculous if you or I got shot. No one would care. But a CEO? nYPD pulling out every stop they got.
why do I feel like flooding the reward info line with false information like we always do with the abortion manhunt forms.
10k reward for info.
Isn’t that standard for info on a murder? I feel like I’ve heard this before. Maybe it’s usually “up to” 10k. Idk.
10k reward for info
Which is frankly hilarious. UnitedHealthCare group grossed $90 billion in the last 12 months and they are offering only a $10,000 reward for help finding the assassin. I bet their next CEO gets 10 to 100 times that much in just a signing bonus.
They even cut corners when offering rewards.
They probably spent 2mil on researching what amount of money would be enough to engage people without having to give poors a chance at real money.
I’m out of the loop, who died now?
The CEO of United Healthcare was shot the other day
Ty
Probably not on Lemmy but media did
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Which one isn’t?
Well… not OWNED, but fully funded by.
The executive protection business will have an upswing.
I sure hope it’s not staffed with people that find CEOs repugnant…
There are no good billionaires and corporations are not your friend.
Probably drone business too I bet
Why drones?
Ukraine v Russia has altered the modern landscape of suprise attacks. I anticipate as security groups increase, so will the methods of public retribution.
Now I’m following.
I was thinking about drone sales increasing as a means of protection, not as a means to liquidate CEOs.
I am for this.
It’s a good reminder that the people who oppress us have names and addresses.
And we know their names and surnames, especially for CEOs.
Luckily, bullets outnumber evil CEOs.
Today I decided to collect a small mountain of Facebook posts of people who had claims denied by United Healthcare prior to 2024. I’m not shocked but also I am.
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Is it bad that I read that last section in the super fast barely intelligible voice they use in medication ads?
I’m out of the loop. Who’s dead?
UnitedHealthcare CEO
Thanks.
Wow I think this is the first time I’ve seen this meme template used so appropriately.
Are people losing their minds, though? I thought the reaction was pretty muted. There was some celebration, to be sure, but I think that is a pretty rational response.
People seem to be losing their minds in a very positive way
Yikes, can we not glorify the Joker? This is some cringe incel level stuff.
You get what you deserve.
Wanna know how I got these downvotes?
This guy doesn’t live in a society
I agree that glorifying him is an absolute incel take, but like the other commenter said, this is actually an appropriate use for this template. This isn’t glorifying him or anything.
Yes it is. This is a cringe “we live in a society” memes rebranded with a current event.
Concern trolling is some cring incel level stuff.
While I wasn’t personally concerned (Joker was amazing in Dark Knight, a bad dude who is also worthy of being in memes)…
@iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works assuming you were concern posting not concern trolling
I have no idea what you’re trying to say, tbh.
I mean this meme template is old as a donkey, we’re not “glorifying” the joker. Just so happens the meme is fittingly dark. A perfect 5/7 meme
Nowadays nobody knows what a perfect 5/7 means.
skill issue
Even if it’s with rice?
Where the Joker excels is pointing out horrifying issues within our society. This is, in fact, one of those situations. It isn’t saying it’s good that the CEO was murdered, rather pointing out that society at large doesn’t care if it’s poor people who die by the millions. One CEO and it’s the most important thing happening. If this amount of effort and money went towards helping poor people then their issues would be solved, but instead we’re wasting it talking about one rich bastard only.
My wife always has the good morning America shit on in the morning and they didn’t say a damn thing today about the shooting. I wonder if the media billionaires have told their faces not to talk about this anymore.
I don’t think Good Morning America is that kind of show… It has been over a decade since I have watched broadcast TV so maybe I’m wrong, but I always remember that show as being one of those super positive, bubbly, morning shows that are all human interest stories and fluff? They’re not going to talk about dark shit like that unless it’ s like… 9/11 level. And at that point, they’d just cut to breaking news.
No, the Joker doesn’t. We used to mock “we live in a society” memes. This is that.
As the other comment says, different joker. Also, yeah a lot of its stupid and cringy. It all depends on the author and the context. As with all art though, it’s a tool for the author to send a message. Almost every hero and villain is a vessel for the author to talk through. They are making art and have something to say. You aren’t supposed to like the Joker, but he is supposed to carry a message still. That message is usually that our society is inhumane and flawed and treats people horribly.
That was a different Joker
Welcome to Lemmy. It’s cringe incel level stuff all the way down.
Well, go on back to reddit lol
Joker isn’t a real person, he cannot hurt you.
“Yikes”
Go back to Reddit.
This might be the most accurate version of the original scene done in real life.
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I was thinking today that I hate how emotionless I’ve become about this sort of stuff. I wasn’t this way 8 years ago.
Kamala bragged on the campaign trail about how many CEO endorsements she had. That worked great!
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Yes, she made it very clear that she was the institutional favorite.
Are you confused? CEOs are like the cheerleaders of capitalism, right liberals got to love them?
No one is losing their minds. Most are quite satisfied with the news
Tell that to the police who decided they actually are going to try this time to find the killer. Tell that to the news juicing the story. They care and they will use your money to do something about it.
Then I advise you stop watching their bullshit news network and find other sources for news. Maybe more grassroots media.
Pretending people don’t watch or shouldn’t watch mainstream media doesn’t change what I said. Also, alot of presumptions to assume I don’t have good trustable news sources (not these guys for sure).
Point is, people watch it and they are being fed a juiced up story and worth recognizing that so that you can continue to operate on the same reality as everyone else. At least enough to not be surprised.
Good thing they are out of practice then /s
The cops and their $10K reward? TDGAF.