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Summary
President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.
The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.
Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.
Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.
This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.
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Reading through these comments and seeing people excuse this because trump is worse validates the race-to-the-bottom strategy that republicans and democrats cooperate on. Republicans will keep lowering the bar while democrats will continue hovering slightly above that bar as their only differentiator and we’re all on the ride on the way down.
Reading through these comments and seeing people excuse this because trump is worse validates the race-to-the-bottom strategy that republicans and democrats cooperate on.
No, you don’t seem to understand. The race to the bottom strategy was a Republican thing. But now that we know that’s how you win in America, some of us are supporting that strategy for Democrats as well.
Gotta adapt to your environment to succeed.
I’m on board with that, but democrats refuse to take advantage of their power for our sake. He’s just doing this for his own sake. This selfishness is what allowed trump a second term, since democrats would’ve had a much better chance if biden stepped down earlier and allowed for a proper primary.
but democrats refuse to take advantage of their power for our sake.
I agree that they could do more. But I also acknowledge that they’ve done WAY more for us than the Republican party has. I don’t vote for perfect. I vote for better.
He’s just doing this for his own sake.
I’m ok with him pardoning his son. First of all, Trump threatened to go after his political opponents if he won. That’s a threat to Biden’s son. So Biden did something about it. Secondly, Biden was, by all metrics, a solid president. And Americans told him and his party to fuck off and re-hired a twice impeached convicted felon and rapist who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election. We treated Biden like shit. He doesn’t owe us anything additional. I think it’s fine to take this small victory to protect his son from unwarranted threats and then retire.
since democrats would’ve had a much better chance if biden stepped down earlier
I agree. But I also have a pretty low opinion of Americans, so I don’t know if it would have mattered in the end.
Gun charge “while using illegal drugs”.
Tax fraud.
c’mon now, fuck all that shit. 100% political, “witch hunt”, and all that. I would have thought less of Joe had he not done this.
“he only broke some minor laws”
I don’t feel like searching, but can you find such zealous prosecution for a nobody for these crimes?
Strong argument.
Man I thought blue MAGA was just a stupid meme but I guess it’s real. Fuck the Democratic Party, I’m out.
You can’t really think that anyone gives a shit about Hunter Biden and his schoolyard antics in a vacuum.
I care about the wealthy and powerful being above the law while working class people get the shaft. Democrats claimed to be concerned about this too. But I guess it was all partisan theatre.
But the only reason he was being prosecuted was because of his connection to Biden. An average working class person would never have been charged with this crime in the first place.
I care about the wealthy and powerful being above the law
This is the opposite of what happened. Hunter was only prosecuted because he was BELOW THE LAW. An ordinary person wouldn’t have been prosecuted for buying a gun.
I wish that my Dad loved me as much as Joe Biden loves his Sons.
I get it now, you simp for Biden because of your daddy issues.
Awwwww muffin…
Clearly your Dad didn’t love you either. (Hugs)
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Eric Trump, is that you?
You do have to remember that most of us didn’t give a fuck about this supposed crime to begin with. I mean who Among Us hasn’t lied to the government about our drug history?
Also should mention that it’s clearly unconstitutional by the way.
Also should mention that it’s clearly unconstitutional by the way.
Then they should fight it legally and win. That would also set precedent for others who aren’t rich and powerful.
It would also be amusing to watch liberals making a 2A argument in court.
There is no winning in court, if you are an enemy of Trump.
#7thgradedeep
No, its just being a realist. Trump owns the federal courts, since he can just appeal to his hand selected SCOTUS. Who have already ruled everything Trump does is legal.
The cover up is the crime. Why did the FBI spread false Russian Propaganda misinformation?
who Among Us hasn’t lied to the government about our drug history?
Me. I’ve yet to be given the opportunity… but I’ll be happy to lie about if it comes up.
Go buy a firearm, while using legal cannabis products.
Boom! You’re now a felon!
I and almost certainly evey other non-psycho father would have done the same.
Is not a race to bottom. It is just the most clear indication that the American system of governance has massive flaws and, as a set of institutions, the system has no way to protect itself from abuse.
Um no?
Don’t tell me if you knew the threat to democracy who had a personal vendetta against you and your child was following you in office and has threatened and made blind accusations multiple times that you would NOT pardon them. Biden did the right thing as a parent and a mildly objectionable thing on a moral standpoint politically which… just fuck off with that. I don’t wanna hear about morality from the party that constantly defends rapist and child abusers
I don’t want to hear about morality regarding biden and his full-throated support of genocide. He said he wouldn’t pardon his son and that he believed in the rule of law, but when it comes down to it, he goes ahead and pardons him because he ultimately knows the institutions he has fought so hard to defend are full of shit. Us peasants are still supposed to be held under the power of these institutions, though, and he has done nothing to change that. In fact, he’s played a big hand in making it as bad as it is now with his tough on crime stance.
It is wild how they willing to defend their side no matter what. This is absolute abuse of power regardless of detail. Again, it is understandable and expected, but still abuse of power.
The gun crime is bullshit. That law isn’t enforced on anyone. It’s also probably unconstitutional if you follow the conservative understanding of that amendment (which is complete bullshit, but that’s beside the point).
Tax evasion, sure. That maybe shouldn’t be pardoned but also it’s only an issue because he’s the president’s son. I don’t dismiss this, but also I recognize that it’s mostly bullshit Republicans drummed up because they couldn’t get anything on Biden.
I will point out to every conservative who defends Trump who says anything about this though. Trump is literally a convicted felon, and multiple cases are being dismissed because he was elected. If they think Hunter shouldn’t get off free, then they better have some strong reasons Trump should.
This pardon also stops any investigation into the “10% for the big guy” email.
God’s getting a cut?
I am more shocked by people supporting Biden’s action than the action itself
I support it.
Americans explicitly voted for blatant corruption.
Now they’re going to get it.
We’re just getting what we voted for.
That pardon smells fishy, but I can understand that he does not want to leave his son exposed to imprisonment under Trump. Donald has shown time and again that he has no problems in going after weak persons to extract petty revenge.
Of course he did. If you thought otherwise you were gullible. Politicians lie and party affiliation makes no difference. Save the outrage for the truly outrageous things the next 4 years are going to bring.
“We take the high road” mfers when the low road people go after his son:
So harvey dent was right, You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
Uncanny
Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, …
Oh shut the fuck up.
The Supreme Court undermined the judicial system.
Why did Biden say he had full faith in the judicial process this entire year until now then?
He probably didn’t expect the US to elect a fascist…
He wasn’t around in 2016 huh.
Well, there’s something to be said for that election… 2016 I honestly figured Trump would be no difference than Clinton, in all honestly. They are both wealthy oligarchs, who look to solidify their interests.
Obviously, that was not true.
I would hope he was lying. I can’t imagine he’s so stupid he can’t see.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he can’t see or understand the situation very well. The man is ancient.
Who says liars can’t also be stupid?
True. Just look at Drump.
Exactly.
I really appreciate that you took the time to bold it, made me chuckle 😁 I feel you though 💙
Good. I hope the democrats play just as dirty and hard as the republicans going forward. We cannot be civil with barbarians.
pardoning the j6 in 1 month, eh
ITT: the hypocrisy of liberals on full display. No shame.
I’m not surprised and I don’t really care. Last time I checked the charges against him were kinda bullshit and it was clear to me that red team was pushing for him to face charges out of spite. It’s funny to see Trump get mad about it though, he would have pardoned his own kid a long time ago if he were in that position. Well, maybe not Eric, but definitely Don Jr, Ivanka, or maybe the other ones.
The votes came in. The country chose corruption and “fuck it” politics. At this point Joe just wants to protect himself / family from the coming retribution administration.
This is yet another example of Biden just not doing things sufficiently enough. He must issue a preemptive umbrella pardon for himself, as Trump’s DOJ, FBI, and CIA will go after him
I agree, he should push the limit of what’s possible to force the Supreme Court to rule on the actions, call their bluff, lay bare the hypocrisy officially for all the world to see.
He should have threatened to start jailing Senators as an official act unless they pass a law/amendment saying that he can’t.
He still can, in fact.
Exactly. By not testing the supreme court, he is seen as being complicit in the manipulation of the system that Trump plans to implement and he might fall victim of it himself. The chances that Biden dies of old age during a lengthy court case or in jail, unfortunately, are non-zero.
In any case, Dem’s lack of imagination is just astounding
Testing the supreme court could also result in certain dictatorial powers for Trump. At the moment they are only theoretical.
Trump will test anyway, so not testing only delays the inevitable
Dems have always been cowards :/
He pardoned himself in his mind, same way Trump declassified those documents.
Exactly! The same way Trump locked Hillary up in prison after he won in 2016 right.
History has now shown us that there was evidently no one on the ballot who wasnt a “corruption and fuck it politics” candidate.
Good.
Why should Democrats continue taking the high ground now? Americans just overwhelmingly voted for blatant corruption. Nothing matters anymore. No reason for Dems to play it straight when they already tried that and Americans didn’t respect it.
Corruption is in. Let’s do it.
Thank fuck the guy you’ve all been defending did a selfish act just for himself and his family before ditching us all to die.
Vote with a brick next time.
Good old Lemmy, defending its owners. Wage slaves in spirit lmao
Biden 2028!
“Hey, you’ve seen my hog and you know I was a crackhead.”
