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is there news source for “fuck right off about that reward, bud”?
I highly doubt that with the current climate and visibility of this they don’t pay the class traitor.
It’s an easy find. Nobody is literally saying fuck right off, but it’s not a stretch to think this shithole society would screw the person over.
NYPD Crime Stoppers Rules: The NYPD part of the reward is given out through Crime Stoppers. To claim this part, people must have a unique reference number provided when they submit a tip through Crime Stoppers. Unfortunately, because the employee called 911 instead of using the Crime Stoppers hotline, they might not be eligible for this part of the reward.
What a fucking joke. Hope everyone learns the lesson here.
HAHahaha You can’t make this shit up.
Right? If I tried I’d just write a scene where she’s leaving with a fat sack of cash and then learns that her important knee surgery will cost, two fat sacks of cash.
Mustn’t let the poors get a foothold, they may improve their situation.
Anyone have a citation about the rat not getting the money? People keep saying that, but I haven’t seen a single article posted about it.
There isn’t actually any citation for this, there is however a bunch of articles written pointing to the red tape around reward money and saying “maybe” he wont be paid. But so far I havnt seen anything that shows this as more than conjecture
Also this snitch not being paid would be the dumbest fucking move imaginable if their goal is to have murdering Capitalists not be the new trend.
“McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time”
Yeah its good to be skeptical of something like this that everyone wants to be true.
this doesn’t really add to the discussion, but i just wanted to say thanks for sharing a source. I feel like i don’t see it enough, so i appreciate you taking the time to share it
I don’t feel like you need to
apologize forexcuse saying a heartfelt thank you with a text comment, just because it doesn’t add to the discussion. We need more of this kindness in the world. ❤️you can pry my kindness from my cold dead hands
Yeah, well, that realy doesn’t add anything to the discussion.
And people say that McDonald’s never produced anything delicious.
both the arrest and conviction of the suspect
Makes perfect sense, but that’s just a matter of time.
might not be eligible for [the NYPD] part of the reward.
OK, so maybe they won’t be getting 10k of the 60k. They would still get 50k if he’s convicted. So many people are definitively saying that they’re getting none of the money, and that makes no sense.
The tip didn’t contribute to conviction, only the arrest. The words “both” and “and” rather than “consequent” are explicit.
The rat won’t be paid.
I don’t have a citation. But I do believe that you’d normally have to wait for a conviction before getting the reward. Otherwise it could be the wrong guy.
I was thinking the same thing. So why is everyone on Lemmy saying “The snitch didn’t even get the money, so they did it for nothing!”
Because they didn’t read any of the sources and just heard about the NYPD requirement that they call the tip line, which they didn’t do, so unless there’s some major backlash, they definitely won’t be getting $10,000 of the reward.
The other $50,000 from the FBI we’re all kinda assuming will have some other reason to not be paid out, but if we’re being honest, if the 1% want us to continue turning on each other in the future, they’re gonna have to let these high profile snitching cases go through.
Do a favor for the cops, they give you nothing and often end up revealing who you are, sometimes by accident.
Do a favor for the mafia and they do one for you
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- Delayed by six months until the news dies down.
You’re too quick! I had responded in the wrong place.
It’s not guaranteed they won’t pay the peon. There’s just a process.
It seems like a weird process because everything in the legal world is framed in terms of adversaries, people trying to game the system, official processes that have to be followed, and delays. And for all I know, it will lead to whoever ratted him out getting the shaft. But there’s a big difference between “It’s more complicated than bebopping on down to your FBI office and getting handed a check” and “They’re definitely going to shaft him.”
Wait where is is that the compensation will not be provided? This was the first time I heard this
He didn’t tip off the right agency. AND the reward depends on a conviction, not an arrest. AND he gets a proportion of the reward depending on how instrumental his info was in the case being solved.
(AND the poor are just tools to those in power.)Edit: or so I gathered.
Wooooow so because be called 911 instead of the feds he gets nothing…
… And of course they already said hours before the call they were “closing in” (they weren’t)
He called 911 and thereby gave that Lotto ticket to a bigger Judas
It wasn’t even a lot of money. It was practically a pittance, loose change in the sofa to these people.
At least one possibly decent article detailing why they might not.
Might? It was never a question, they’re not paying him.
This is why you don’t snitch. The powers that be don’t care about you, have no intention to do right by you, and will actively look for ways to avoid you after they are done with you.
What was it again, Deny, Delay, …
Dispose?
The original is delay, deny, defend.
The one that was on the cartridge casing when the CEO was terminated was, delay, deny, depose.
The act of deposing a person, by one definition is to “remove from office suddenly and forcefully”
IMO, that’s the meaning behind the use of “depose” here.
There’s also legal depositions which are a very different thing entirely. From what I’ve heard, Luigi had a lot of experience with delay and deny. I dunno how much of what I’ve heard is true, and how much is just a game of telephone gone wrong.
Are you sure about that?
I didn’t think they recovered one with “delay”
The problem is that the first reports of what was written on the casings was wrong, and later corrections are mixed in with the original misreported text.
So there’s a lot of misunderstandings about what they said.
I’m not saying my information is 100% accurate; but I’m not willing to wade through the neverending sea of news articles that care more about clicks than accuracy to figure it out.
In any case, good luck and have a good day!
Dispose was a joke answer but I appreciate the extra detail
always have been.jpeg
I always wondered about WitSec. How long does the protection last? After trial, then what?
I hope someone put the dude face on the internet so everyone knows where to spit when they pass by him
Wasn’t a dude, some old lady, she’s been chased off social media and threatened.
Good
the grandson of a wealthy real estate developer, valedictorian of an elite Baltimore prep school, and STEM graduate from a top university goes insane from back pain and assassinates a powerful CEO a small ways from a Hilton; all the while pretending he is doing it for everyday Americans… Luigi is not hero, he’s a poser. Him getting arrested is the perfect end to this story: the rich eating the rich and all going to hell together. Whoever reported him to the police is the real hero.
Lol ok putibot
…and all that came of the whole affair was a bunch of bad reviews for a McDonald’s, which were promptly deleted by the corporation controlling all data.
I guess Advent Health dropped their proposed anesthesia policy out of the goodness of their heart?
For now. However I’m sure they have plans in the works for all sorts of similar heinous and hateful policy changes.
I’ve already heard a bunch of stories of insurance companies approving procedures they denied the day before.
This probably saved a bunch of lives.
Well the employee was also fired and their life ruined, and it’s still early.
Seriously? Why is that?
Being fired? For being a distraction from the work that McDonald’s wants to occur without people associating it with class warfare.
Honestly it’s probably the manager reacting poorly and once it goes further up the ladder and there is more and more backlash they will turn back on these decisions same as the reward money if they are smart though I think the 10,000 is officially off the table since that was a private 3rd party and the 50,000 will likely be a fraction of that at best.
Any kind of change from norm gets blamed on whoever they think caused it. And it hits wide and usually the innocent just as much.
Until you can provide a source about them being fired I’m calling bullshit.
That’s fair and I respect your time enough to not post sources that amount to Facebook posts and texts from others that live there.
I will say it shouldn’t come as such a stretch that a system that believes in those that interrupt the flow of money as villains no matter the reasons for it from protests to victims of bullying would mistreat an old lady who was hoping to get more out of her existence by being good for it.
So meet my statements with skepticism absolutely! But I implore you to treat as “what if true” rather than “what if false”.
I can’t find anything that mentions they were fired. Do you have a source for that? That would be super messed up.
Well I have it from the statements of the woman herself and the somewhat open gossip now of central PA.
I could try to pull sources but I’m not sure what I could provide that would be considered respectable enough for this community.
I think she was just put on leave but if you are a part time worker on leave without pay it sure looks like being fired even if on a technicality they can say she wasn’t fired yet. I dunno she’s acting like she was fucked over and I believe it when she thought she would get a bunch of money and be a hero.
I don’t have sources that talk about people shitting on cars at the McDonald’s but that’s happening too.
The parasites are scrapping their data online because they know plebs don’t know how to check SEC filings on https://www.sec.gov/search-filings
That could maybe contain names of the people running these death machines.
Coincidentally, unrelated, happenstance fact - you can gain the ability to attend shareholder meetings by purchasing a certain amount of shares - each company sets their own level.
Y’know, exactly like the meeting Brian was on his way to that December morning.…
ohh wow, look at that!
i guess they really do think peasants don’t know how to use common sense and online search, i am sure Securitas and G4S clowns charging a fat fee for this advise too. Classic capitalism strikes again.
does it actually make these parasites any safer?
no way to tell really…
No, there was a lot more that came of this (unless you’re specifically referencing the snitching part).
- It’s made business execs afraid.
- It’s shown the working class how to have solidarity.
- It’s been a rallying cry for how much the people hare the current system.
- It’s given us a martyr.
- It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
And I’m sure there’s more.
Maybe the “let me fuck shit up and shoot up my high-school” crowd doesn’t really care about being remembered as heroes but what would I know.
Some of them don’t care about being remembered or how they’re remembered.
But some of them very much do:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2023/07/when-mass-shooters-are-seeking-fame.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178916300027
Example:
It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
I never even thought of that. No more Columbines? Just more Luigis?
Based universe!
I wouldn’t go so far to say that there won’t be any more school shootings. A school shootings is comparatively easy. Their locations are static, publicly available. There are many potential victims, and so on.
With that said, some may opt for the slightly higher difficulty of biz execs for the reasons I’ve listed.
I think that user above you was implying more should be done about the McDonalds, which is pretty ironic given the context.
It might even unify some voters across party lines
Is his martydom trending on “common” social media like TikTok, YT, Facebook, Discord, big podcasts and such?
Lemmy (and even Twitter and Reddit) are rather niche and not necessarily reaching the larger public, aka this pool of working class folk.
I can’t speak for all of them, but I can explain the vibes:
- TikTok/Insta - 100% worshipping Luigi en masse
- Discord - None of the ones I’m in, though I mostly stick to small friend groups I know IRL. I’d be shocked if there aren’t servers praising him as a hero
I can’t speak to the rest.
One of the Hoi4 mod servers im on is actively debating making an agent portrait of him. The debate is about historical accuracy not morality.
Lmao
It definitely seems to be yeah, given the number of reposted tiktoks I’ve seen, and the facebook unitedhealthgroup laughing emoji ratio, and all the videos that corporate media are clutching their pearls over. There are tons of comments in Ben Shapiro’s videos on the subject that are cheering on the death of a CEO, despite his attempt to paint this as only the “violent left”. When Ben Shapiro’s viewers disagree with him you know the feeling is widespread lol.
Very interesting.
And some of the “small” news outlets in my feed are starting to sympathetically acknowledge it as well.
Interesting work of fiction.
He’s not wrong that people don’t mind murder if it’s the right people, though.
or if you conceal your murder(s) with a thin veil of legality!
I’m not a big Astarion fan, but I can see the appeal.
Is it just me that doesn’t believe the McDonald’s employee thing? I think they used a Pegasus or Stingray type privacy violating device/exploit and just said it was a restaurant employee.
Pegasus is a scalpel. Needs to be applied and targeted. Stingray is old news and common. It is a catch all.
Was this used? Given how much money could have been thrown at it, very likely.
Or they pretended to be a customer and said to the employee, “Gee, that guy really looks a lot like the killer, doesn’t he, ha ha wouldn’t that be funny, anyway give me a big mac and fries. He does look like him though.”
Nancy the wage slave called him in but the fat boomer they ran articles with is the fed?
100% the whole story is too convenien lul.
We all know that snitches get stitches, always. What you may not know (and Snitching Joe just found out) is that the stitches are sometimes metaphorical.
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Ma’am, ain’t nobody saw nothing
Insurance doesn’t cover vision. I didn’t see a damn thing.
The sad thing is the rat will get their money if Mangione is convicted (and he most probably will even if he’s just a scapegoat). Even if the responsible office will block the reward, some CEO will jump in and hand him way more than the 60k. Maybe they’ll fabricate it into a heatwarming christmas story with some sad background stories of the rat and how they’re now able to pay off the mortgage of their parents home or something.
I do not know of any generous rich people.
Santa
Oh, you probably meant non-fictional. Nvmd.
The narrative would be funnier if next some McD exes go missing … with only ‘fry in hell’, 'ice cream machine is broken’, and ‘you are McRib material’ casings found.
You killing them with artillery, or you just have very small handwriting?
Just normal hand artillery.
Ah yes, the WristEnder 5000.
