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is there news source for “fuck right off about that reward, bud”?
It’s an easy find. Nobody is literally saying fuck right off, but it’s not a stretch to think this shithole society would screw the person over.
NYPD Crime Stoppers Rules: The NYPD part of the reward is given out through Crime Stoppers. To claim this part, people must have a unique reference number provided when they submit a tip through Crime Stoppers. Unfortunately, because the employee called 911 instead of using the Crime Stoppers hotline, they might not be eligible for this part of the reward.
What a fucking joke. Hope everyone learns the lesson here.
HAHahaha You can’t make this shit up.
Right? If I tried I’d just write a scene where she’s leaving with a fat sack of cash and then learns that her important knee surgery will cost, two fat sacks of cash.
Mustn’t let the poors get a foothold, they may improve their situation.
I highly doubt that with the current climate and visibility of this they don’t pay the class traitor.
The reporting on how he came to be arrested is quite a bit different from what’s all over social media. From what I’ve read, it wasn’t until the cops showed up that anyone even knew who it was. It seems like he was acting strange after several days on the run and nights without much sleep. A concerned customer asked an employee to call the cops.
I don’t know how accurate this story is, but I have no idea where the social media narrative came from, except that it was half written before he was ever captured. I think the anger at McDonalds and the employee involved is misplaced, and I hope it doesn’t have serious consequences.
Well, except the guy came from a well-off family and had a good higher education. Not really a “lower-class” type, but certainly someone who could be rallied behind.
There is no middle or lower class. He worked for a living and was thus working class.
There is no middle
Well not anymore there’s not! That’s a huge problem too.
There hasn’t been a middle since the old middle class became today’s upper class, replacing the aristocracy. Since then, “middle class” is just an attempt to pit the working class against one another.
Luigi is one of us.
Uh, the old middle class is a very, very far way away from the 0.1% that run the country.
Is it just me that doesn’t believe the McDonald’s employee thing? I think they used a Pegasus or Stingray type privacy violating device/exploit and just said it was a restaurant employee.
100% the whole story is too convenien lul.
Pegasus is a scalpel. Needs to be applied and targeted. Stingray is old news and common. It is a catch all.
Was this used? Given how much money could have been thrown at it, very likely.
Or they pretended to be a customer and said to the employee, “Gee, that guy really looks a lot like the killer, doesn’t he, ha ha wouldn’t that be funny, anyway give me a big mac and fries. He does look like him though.”
Nancy the wage slave called him in but the fat boomer they ran articles with is the fed?
…and all that came of the whole affair was a bunch of bad reviews for a McDonald’s, which were promptly deleted by the corporation controlling all data.
No, there was a lot more that came of this (unless you’re specifically referencing the snitching part).
- It’s made business execs afraid.
- It’s shown the working class how to have solidarity.
- It’s been a rallying cry for how much the people hare the current system.
- It’s given us a martyr.
- It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
And I’m sure there’s more.
Interesting work of fiction.
He’s not wrong that people don’t mind murder if it’s the right people, though.
I’m not a big Astarion fan, but I can see the appeal.
or if you conceal your murder(s) with a thin veil of legality!
Maybe the “let me fuck shit up and shoot up my high-school” crowd doesn’t really care about being remembered as heroes but what would I know.
Some of them don’t care about being remembered or how they’re remembered.
But some of them very much do:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2023/07/when-mass-shooters-are-seeking-fame.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178916300027
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It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
I never even thought of that. No more Columbines? Just more Luigis?
Based universe!
I wouldn’t go so far to say that there won’t be any more school shootings. A school shootings is comparatively easy. Their locations are static, publicly available. There are many potential victims, and so on.
With that said, some may opt for the slightly higher difficulty of biz execs for the reasons I’ve listed.
Is his martydom trending on “common” social media like TikTok, YT, Facebook, Discord, big podcasts and such?
Lemmy (and even Twitter and Reddit) are rather niche and not necessarily reaching the larger public, aka this pool of working class folk.
I can’t speak for all of them, but I can explain the vibes:
- TikTok/Insta - 100% worshipping Luigi en masse
- Discord - None of the ones I’m in, though I mostly stick to small friend groups I know IRL. I’d be shocked if there aren’t servers praising him as a hero
I can’t speak to the rest.
One of the Hoi4 mod servers im on is actively debating making an agent portrait of him. The debate is about historical accuracy not morality.
Lmao
It definitely seems to be yeah, given the number of reposted tiktoks I’ve seen, and the facebook unitedhealthgroup laughing emoji ratio, and all the videos that corporate media are clutching their pearls over. There are tons of comments in Ben Shapiro’s videos on the subject that are cheering on the death of a CEO, despite his attempt to paint this as only the “violent left”. When Ben Shapiro’s viewers disagree with him you know the feeling is widespread lol.
Very interesting.
And some of the “small” news outlets in my feed are starting to sympathetically acknowledge it as well.
I think that user above you was implying more should be done about the McDonalds, which is pretty ironic given the context.
It might even unify some voters across party lines
The parasites are scrapping their data online because they know plebs don’t know how to check SEC filings on https://www.sec.gov/search-filings
That could maybe contain names of the people running these death machines.
Coincidentally, unrelated, happenstance fact - you can gain the ability to attend shareholder meetings by purchasing a certain amount of shares - each company sets their own level.
Y’know, exactly like the meeting Brian was on his way to that December morning.…
ohh wow, look at that!
i guess they really do think peasants don’t know how to use common sense and online search, i am sure Securitas and G4S clowns charging a fat fee for this advise too. Classic capitalism strikes again.
does it actually make these parasites any safer?
no way to tell really…
I guess Advent Health dropped their proposed anesthesia policy out of the goodness of their heart?
For now. However I’m sure they have plans in the works for all sorts of similar heinous and hateful policy changes.
Well the employee was also fired and their life ruined, and it’s still early.
I can’t find anything that mentions they were fired. Do you have a source for that? That would be super messed up.
Well I have it from the statements of the woman herself and the somewhat open gossip now of central PA.
I could try to pull sources but I’m not sure what I could provide that would be considered respectable enough for this community.
I think she was just put on leave but if you are a part time worker on leave without pay it sure looks like being fired even if on a technicality they can say she wasn’t fired yet. I dunno she’s acting like she was fucked over and I believe it when she thought she would get a bunch of money and be a hero.
I don’t have sources that talk about people shitting on cars at the McDonald’s but that’s happening too.
Seriously? Why is that?
Being fired? For being a distraction from the work that McDonald’s wants to occur without people associating it with class warfare.
Honestly it’s probably the manager reacting poorly and once it goes further up the ladder and there is more and more backlash they will turn back on these decisions same as the reward money if they are smart though I think the 10,000 is officially off the table since that was a private 3rd party and the 50,000 will likely be a fraction of that at best.
Any kind of change from norm gets blamed on whoever they think caused it. And it hits wide and usually the innocent just as much.
Until you can provide a source about them being fired I’m calling bullshit.
That’s fair and I respect your time enough to not post sources that amount to Facebook posts and texts from others that live there.
I will say it shouldn’t come as such a stretch that a system that believes in those that interrupt the flow of money as villains no matter the reasons for it from protests to victims of bullying would mistreat an old lady who was hoping to get more out of her existence by being good for it.
So meet my statements with skepticism absolutely! But I implore you to treat as “what if true” rather than “what if false”.
I’ve already heard a bunch of stories of insurance companies approving procedures they denied the day before.
This probably saved a bunch of lives.
Did they seriously not give the snitch the bounty? Can anyone provide official news story on this?
That’s hillarious. If this were a movie I’d call it bad writing. Heck almost any editor in the world would have it changed to a scene where the snitch is suddenly blinged the fuck out.
almost any editor in the world would have it changed to a scene where the snitch is suddenly blinged the fuck out.
Because it would make for a more interesting story, even though that’s now how it works (fortunately).
Snitching on your neighbor because he kinda looks like the guy should not be rewarded. Unless he’s convicted, he’s innocent. Only if proven guilty you can say the snitch helped and give them their reward. If the person is innocent then the snitch did nothing more than just waste everyone’s time.
Iirc they never actually pay the reward in almost every reward poster for one reason or another.
There usually needs to be a conviction before there’s a reward.
Conviction is required, and the informant needs formal recognition by the FBI as a recognized informant first. Karen just called 911, forfeiting the reward.
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Lol of course there’s stupid hoops like that.
So anybody who is out and about and sees a fugitive with a publicized reward should know…don’t call 911. Call John Walsh, or pound sand.
Probably gotta call a specific extension that’s only staffed from 10am to 2:30pm with a 2 hour lunch from 11:15 to 1:15 on the first and third weeks of the month and 12:15 to 2:15 on the other weeks.
Do a favor for the cops, they give you nothing and often end up revealing who you are, sometimes by accident.
Do a favor for the mafia and they do one for you
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- Delayed by six months until the news dies down.
You’re too quick! I had responded in the wrong place.
Bertolt Brecht could probably come close
This whole thing has Threepenny Opera written all over it.
*Supposed killer
He’s only a suspect at the moment
allegedly
Allegedly a suspect?
Too many people forget this part. Luigi Mangione is, until proven otherwise, innocent. The police, the same people who have spent decades killing them people (especially minorities) and planting evidence, largely with impunity, are alleging that he is the one who did it. Luigi is likely a victim of the health insurance industry but, until it is proven otherwise, he and the shooter are two separate individuals.
People with a lot of wealth and power want to put a bow on this to prevent more frustration from being directed at them.
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Ma’am, ain’t nobody saw nothing
Insurance doesn’t cover vision. I didn’t see a damn thing.
This thing about them not getting the promised reward needs to go viral so in the future whenever someone’s thinking of turning someone in to get the reward money, they’ll know they’re highly unlikely to get a damn thing.
It’s also (probably) not true.
“McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time”
At this point, we don’t know if it’s true or how true. The odds of them getting the whole $60k is very low, but they might eventually get something out of it, depending on if/when he’s convicted, how much of it they decide to award, and how many other tipsters it would be split with. And then of course, after taxes are deducted!
Since the issue has gotten some publicity and people may be checking up on it, they’re probably more likely to give them at least something in this case. But whatever the truth is doesn’t matter much these days – the article stating they might not get it is out there, got attention, and I’m saying it should get more attention. People shouldn’t be fooled when they hear a number and believe they will actually just be handed all that money when they call in their tip.
Here y’go: free fries with your purchase of a BigMac. Thanks for supporting law enforcement.
The average citizen doesn’t know, care, or even understand. Nor do they want to.
That’s why everyone who cares needs to spread the word.
People don’t need to care. They might share it as a fun factoid, they might just say that’s crazy and never think about it again
Until they’re in a position to get a reward… They’ll care then. That little idea they heard in passing will pop up… Maybe it gives them pause.
$10k is pretty tempting for a lot of people…a chance at a $10k reward they’ve heard rarely is paid out is a lot less tempting
Maybe they Google it first, maybe they think twice about if the crime is worth reporting. Maybe they see the world in black and white and believe it to be their duty
It’s worth spreading some information, even to people that don’t care
The average can shift marginally over time and this is a good start.
It’s gone viral on several meme pages I follow on Facebook…
Also if this employee doesn’t get rewarded for the tip-off that led to Luigi’s arrest, what kind of message is that going to send to the public about law enforcement? It’s just going to reinforce the already-growing ACAB narrative and make people distrust the police even further…
Heck, the very real possibility of being publicly outed, shamed, harassed and threatened for being the one to rat on Luigi, and not getting the promised $60,000 reward could end up radicalising more people.
I didn’t hear about this. Is there an article you can link or something?
Its pure conjecture, there is no one saying they wont be paid, just some “journalists” saying maybe he wont be paid.
Maybe this might be one of those cases where fuck the truth of the matter, we should just spread this conjecture as truth. Snitches should imagine stitches not riches.
This one was posted further up. The tl;dr is that because they didn’t call the NYPD tip line, they definitely* won’t get the $10,000 from them, barring major backlash that may make them walk that back.
The $50,000 from the FBI is up in the air, but is dependent on him getting convicted. There’s some wording that someone else pointed to about the tip needing to lead to an arrest AND conviction, saying that because the tip itself only lead to the arrest, they won’t be paid, but I’m uncertain about that.
I mentioned in another comment that if the 1% want us to keep snitching, these high profile situations kinda need to pay out.
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Anyone have a citation about the rat not getting the money? People keep saying that, but I haven’t seen a single article posted about it.
There isn’t actually any citation for this, there is however a bunch of articles written pointing to the red tape around reward money and saying “maybe” he wont be paid. But so far I havnt seen anything that shows this as more than conjecture
Also this snitch not being paid would be the dumbest fucking move imaginable if their goal is to have murdering Capitalists not be the new trend.
I don’t have a citation. But I do believe that you’d normally have to wait for a conviction before getting the reward. Otherwise it could be the wrong guy.
I was thinking the same thing. So why is everyone on Lemmy saying “The snitch didn’t even get the money, so they did it for nothing!”
Because they didn’t read any of the sources and just heard about the NYPD requirement that they call the tip line, which they didn’t do, so unless there’s some major backlash, they definitely won’t be getting $10,000 of the reward.
The other $50,000 from the FBI we’re all kinda assuming will have some other reason to not be paid out, but if we’re being honest, if the 1% want us to continue turning on each other in the future, they’re gonna have to let these high profile snitching cases go through.
this doesn’t really add to the discussion, but i just wanted to say thanks for sharing a source. I feel like i don’t see it enough, so i appreciate you taking the time to share it
I don’t feel like you need to
apologize forexcuse saying a heartfelt thank you with a text comment, just because it doesn’t add to the discussion. We need more of this kindness in the world. ❤️you can pry my kindness from my cold dead hands
Yeah, well, that realy doesn’t add anything to the discussion.
both the arrest and conviction of the suspect
Makes perfect sense, but that’s just a matter of time.
might not be eligible for [the NYPD] part of the reward.
OK, so maybe they won’t be getting 10k of the 60k. They would still get 50k if he’s convicted. So many people are definitively saying that they’re getting none of the money, and that makes no sense.
The tip didn’t contribute to conviction, only the arrest. The words “both” and “and” rather than “consequent” are explicit.
The rat won’t be paid.
And people say that McDonald’s never produced anything delicious.
“McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time”
Yeah its good to be skeptical of something like this that everyone wants to be true.
