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Mfers talking like they were out in Europe totally unaware of what the US branch had been doing all this time, like what! Also what’s with the third person, who else is there with you calling the shots?
It was you. You were there and you knew from day one. Lots of allegations were directed at you, specifically. What is happening.
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I really doubt this post is by Linus directly. It’s been about two days since the brand new CEO and the rest of the c-suite informed Linus that any communication he makes regarding stuff like this has to go through them now.
Of course he didn’t write it. He lacks the grace and it wreaks of corporate backsludge, which makes it worse that he didn’t take the time himself to a) think about the situation and b) address his base directly (he’s a YouTuber right?).
Instead we get this PR boilerplate. Literally you can buy these and just fill in the blanks with names and specifics. Moreover, much of it, if you have watched them over the years, are just blatantly false.
It’s orchestrated better, but still on the level of the reply GM got.
Also what’s with the third person, who else is there with you calling the shots?
It was you. You were there and you knew from day one. Lots of allegations were directed at you, specifically. What is happening.
Of course he didn’t write it.
Huh?
This CEO just started like yesterday, they’re still in their probationary period.
People wanted PR responses, people get PR responses
And LMG would be stupid to say or release anything else on that topic! This is potential lawsuit country, they will walk very carefully and I would be surpised if they didn’t check every public communication with their lawyer first.
Ya I’m sure the sponsors are more like… angry
Any chance on some context on this for someone who doesn’t follow tech closely enough? I know who Linus is, and what LTT is, and I’ve seen a lot of stuff these past few days about the community being angry at them for all sorts of stuff, but who is Madison? And what did they allege?
Edit: Never mind, only had to scroll two posts in my feed to find the answer. For others out of the loop: ex LTT employee Madison Reeve alleges toxic work environment and sexual harassment.
On one hand the corpo speak annoys me bit on the other would we really want another Linus statment?
Oh look your pr and legal team wrote some words that no one gives a fuck about
That sanitized corpspeak just sticks out like a sore thumb, right? It takes deliberate, continuous effort not to start zoning out as soon as I hear it.
People have been saying constantly that they need to stop having linus respond and instead of proper PR sanitised responses.
Yeah simps would say that. People unconcerned with the real issues who just want the videos to keep coming
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This is what I got xD
Dear God. It’s perfect.
You know how they say AI is going to take our jobs?
They’re wrong. AI is going to take CEOs’ jobs.
Corporate speak sucks, but it’s 100x better than Linus digging an ever deeper hole for himself at this time. Dude and his wife just need to take a backseat for a while and let pros fix their shit
I disagree. Linus shooting from the hip and making himself look an even bigger ass is incredibly entertaining.
And it actually represents real attitudes in their company, obviously.
I prefer the honesty that he’s NOT sorry. Tells me to continue to avoid their videos like the plague.
Why is it better? Let him dig his hole and we can leave him in it and go live productive lives without him.
Of course? Did anyone expect something else? And frankly they would be extremely stupid if they did anything they didn’t check with their lawyer first.
It’s reasonable to be fed up with fake bullshit apologies.
If they had made a statement like this proactively years ago, I maybe would believe it. But now after the years of rumored toxic workplace conditions this just seems like an attempt to calm their fans lol
Tbf the current CEO has been there less than two months not two years.
I hope they can begin some strong course corrections or else LMG will be the Laying-off Media Group. A lot of people say they want to see LMG burn and I don’t think they realize over 100 people work there. The organization should be offered a chance at redemption regardless of whether Linus should or shouldn’t.
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People have a hard time changing, but sure, it is possible.
Companies however, are multi-people structures built upon a starting ideology, and with each additional layer, as the company grows, the same ideology gets exponentially fixed in place.
Companies change by closing.
Okay, but do we want them to?
Do we need an extra bloated tech channel that can’t be run without creating a massive corporation with an internal culture built around bullying, harassment, and deception?
Why give people who behave that way the opportunity to continue to do so? Why make them rich?
Linus doesn’t have the market cornered on anything, not even sad boy self-protective ‘apologies’. So what do we need him for? Personally, I’m done. I don’t need anything from him or his company.
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He’s an idiot. What did you expect.
that fucking comment lmao
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its really funny to me how they unironically did that during the apology video today with the screwdriver
I think I heard that (and the jokes about the CFO being the “sponsor”) had been trimmed out of the video (which I haven’t checked.) The first time I saw it (just about an hour after posting) it was still included and you could still see the value that Billet labs was giving for their prototype was still unblurred and there was a comment from the head of labs about how they were going to post some sort of transparency video behind a paywall (on Floatplane.) When I rewatched later that day (to show someone) they had blurred out the value, they still had the jokes about selling stuff. I’m not honestly sure if they still had the thing about the plan for the paywalled transparency video. Later I saw a short reaction video to the drama that claimed all of those elements had now been removed from the LTT video.
shits wild, they really fucked it up every step of the way
I suspect that all the not Linus people were already working towards publishing a response like this to the Gamer’s Nexus video when Linus ran off wildcarding again and they then decided to rush out a video so they could clearly state that Linus’s response only represented Linus’s knee-jerk response and was not supported by or representative of LTT/LMG’s take. So… It really really sucks that they responded to a situation created by them rushing and being sloppy by rushing and being sloppy but it may well be that if Linus had been kept under control they wouldn’t have and keeping Linus under control seems to be a big part of their strategy going forwards. I guess my point is it’s too early to judge whether the shift in internal power dynamics at LTT/LMG, refocusing their priorities and reducing their rate of output will actually solve the issues or not.
So so so so tonedeaf. Video where Linus is stepping down? Sure, throw it in as a laugh, he’s the butt of the joke, it was funny. Where you’re being accused of serious wrongdoing in public? Not so funny. Read the room, folks
Hard to imagine how a company that thought it was the right time to drop that joke could be fostering an environment of harassment towards employees! 😬
Plot twist: the “quick, decisive action” will be to tell them to shut the fuck up or get fired.
From what Madison said it sounds like it goes far too deep for this to change much. I hope things get better (since it’s unlikely LTT just up and disappears immediately), but from what we’ve seen this culture of dismissal goes right to the top.
Sounds like they need to totally overhaul HR and give them real power to action to whatever complaints are coming in. A lot of management will have to go in order to change the culture. Unfortunately culture starts at the top and I’m not sure Linus himself can lead that change.
Sadly HR exists to protect the company from the employees, not the other way around. This is always the case in the USA. Not sure about other places.
A good HR department protects the company by protecting the employees though. Not good business to get your business involved in expensive lawsuits because your HR department took the path of least resistance.
If I’m not mistaken, the allegation was on events from two years ago? It’s possible HR has already been overhauled and such.
I think the didn’t have a full time HR until recently.
Yeah, I fully admit I have no idea at all, I’m just making a guess considering the recent CEO stuff and the fact that they’ve grown as large as they are. Not having proper HR at that size would be a terrible idea.
He stepped down as CEO six weeks ago. Hopefully the new one can bring some process maturity to LTT.
He and his wife are still the majority (perhaps only?) owners, so Linus is still in charge even if he is pretending to delegate some duties.
I think the fact he appeared in the latest video and was still so defensive is enough evidence to prove that point.
Linus is still in charge even if he is pretending to delegate some duties
It may be different in Canada, but AFAIK a CEO has full decision powers over everyday functioning of a company. They can get fired by the Board (owners) if they don’t do what the board wants, but it’s not like members of the board can waltz in and make random decisions with the CEO watching.
Linus is the founder, his name is on the buildings, he was CEO at the time of all this shit, he is the cheif on camera personality and he is the majority shareholder. Of course he would be in the video.
Hiring Terren was the smartest thing he could have done, he probably should have gotten someone who understands this shit onboard a long time ago. Even if they were subordinate to him.
Linus also wants LMG to be about more than him, and a huge part of the controversy is tied to his decision making power overruling everyone else who says they are working too fast.
He could have appeared, that’s fine, but that nobody was able to get him to drop the defensive attitude and just finally say “sorry” without any pity pleas would have been a very strong signal. That they either didn’t think to do that, couldn’t get Linus to agree or don’t have the power to force him also sends a strong signal in the other direction.
While I do agree, Id say the counterpoint would be that putting Terren out front when all this happened under Linus’s watch could have come across as disingenuous.
“Heres our new lightning rod, yell at him” sort of thing. I very much think they are in a no win scenario with most of this.
I honestly believe that Linus is a well intentioned dumbass. He likes his people and believes that everyone can just get along and that nobody would harass another employee seriously. He knows that the mistakes are just honest mistakes which is why he gets so defensive, take the whole “trust me bro” thing… I think it never occurred to him to fuck his customers over which is why he didnt handle it well.
He doesnt believe his employees need a union because I dont know about you but if I owned a company Id hope that my people felt looked after well enough that they didnt feel like they needed one either.
But that kind of attitude just doesnt work with so damn many people, he should have hired a full time HR manager YEARS ago, as well as the company lawyer on staff. He SHOULD NOT be doing the WAN show, or if he does it should be on a 5 minute tape delay with someone from legal and hr present.
The reason why so much bullshit corporate structure exists is to largely protect the company from itself.
You only have to watch him interacting with his staff in a few videos and you can see that the bullying comes right from the top. That’s not something that’s going to change easily.
From what I’ve seen his staff also “bully” him as well, to me it looks like casual ribbing each other that friends do, I could be wrong
A couple people have said this now, but can you link some examples? I’ve been watching the channel for a while and don’t recall things like that, but it could just be that I was watching with rose colored glasses.
Basically open any video with him and some employee, it’s not hard to find.
He doesnt believe his employees need a union because I dont know about you but if I owned a company Id hope that my people felt looked after well enough that they didnt feel like they needed one either.
I’m not gonna blame them for wanting to be protected. Even if I treat my hypothetical employees right, what happens when I’m gone? Will my successor treat them right? History says no. With a union, I can rest easy knowing that, come what may, my people will be taken care of.
I think that takes far too rosy a view of Linus’s involvement.
This says it all.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3ogQ7sakAAhnCB?format=png&name=large
He doesnt believe his employees need a union because I dont know about you but if I owned a company Id hope that my people felt looked after well enough that they didnt feel like they needed one either.
If I owned my own company I would DEMAND my employees unionize. You can never trust your boss to have your back. Especially when your boss is me. Because I know me, and I suck.
Also, having a union makes contract negotiations simple, because the contract has already been negotiated with the union.
But here’s the thing: the union ensures the contract is fair, and a lot of businesses don’t like dealing fairly with their employees.
Yeah, I’m just smaht enough to know I’m too dumb for that much responsibility.
Source: trust me bro?
The whole “Trust me bro” thing comes from when they released their backpacks. They had issues with some of the zippers and people wanted to know what the warranty was. Linus said they didnt explicitly have one but that he would look after anyone with issues. When people got a bit rightly pissed about this, he got a bit defensive. “Trust me bro” sprung up as a meme out of that whole saga.
So… No source then? You just kinda think Linus is nice from watching videos?
What source are you looking for, exactly? You asked about a specific incident and got a fine summary. If you want more context, it’s very easy to find.
If you are looking for a “source” for a subjective opinion of someone’s personality… I don’t even know what that would accomplish or what form you think that would take.
I don’t even know what that would accomplish or what form you think that would take.
Exactly, which is why I think it’s weird to act like you know a stranger is a good person without much to go on.
If you’ve seen enough wan show you can get a pretty good idea of his personality. He spouts so many controversial takes without thinking through the consequences, so he’s doing a terrible job if he’s actually an evil mastermind. Most people are well intentioned and Linus is no different.
He’s also naïve, arrogant, and defensive, as we’ve seen lately.
Also I’ve seen his ba faith take on Linux and so I’m not convinced being honest is a huge priority for him
Being negligent isn’t being an “evil mastermind”
Linus is negligent and well intentioned
There’s a huuuuge margin between ‘evil mastermind’ and ‘well intentioned’, containing ‘selfish misogynistic jackass’, ‘careless greedy capitalist’, ‘self-important egotistical manchild’, and many other aphorisms that we could ascribe to this tear-stained apologetic corporate head that would be far more accurate.
In other words, just because he’s not the smartest or most sinister bad actor doesn’t mean we should trust him or give him our money or time.
But any of those can also include well intentioned. Well intentioned, negligent, naïve, egotistical, arrogant, focused too much on business. All are fair adjectives.
Even huge assholes are usually well intentioned (Elon Musk springs to mind), but they have a warped view of the world and get distracted by other things, and without realizing it end up doing more harm than good.
I think you’re stretching things a bit if you’re seeing Elon Musk as well-intentioned.
There’s always ring 0, the initial crew who set the tone and culture of the company.
You know, it’s wild that poorly reviewing a GPU cooler can lead to stuff like this coming out.
Corpo-speak doesn’t mean shit. Actions do.
At least it’s not a poop emoji this time.
Sounds pretty empty to me! We already know how he really feels. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3ogQ7sakAAhnCB?format=png&name=large
It feels like this year is the beginning of a reckoning for a lot of bullshit. Why give our time and money to bloated corporations when they pull the same shit again and again?
This is the CEO not linus
Linus was the CEO at that time. Those are his words.
But now he isn’t. This post is the new CEO in control. The old one was Linus.
Again, what relevance is that to the CEO of LTT?.. OP posted a quote from the current CEO.
