On the 4th of July, American’s don’t celebrate that British soldiers were killed, we celebrate the society we won in the process.
I couldn’t help but notice Blue Cross rescinded its very dangerous policy placing a time limit on anesthesia the day after the murder.
I don’t want a reign of terror, but perhaps just a little bit of terror will have CEOs thinking they could be next when considering especially harmful policies.
In France, during the Nazi occupation in WW2, a few people turned to the Resistance movement which was also a terror operation: they would target military objectives but also conduct assassinations of nazi officials designed to inspire fear in the others and spark support in the population.
You just reminded me of a movie and let’s just say I highly recommend it.
On yet another front, the Greek resistance would kill Nazis. In retaliation, Nazis would kill whole villages. Enraged, more Greeks would join the resistance and kill more Nazis. Net result: Towards the end pretty much every Greek was in the resistance and Greece was the only (IIRC, or at least the first or something) country to free itself from Nazi occupation. (Then they became a dictatorship different story).
Thats okay because its not terror its defense.
Robespierre thought killing tens of thousands of people was defense. History has not been kind to that position.
Good thing there’s only 2066 of them. 2065 now.
Marx once said that proletarians won’t embellish the terror once it’s their turn.
No, it’s terror. It’s just that that isn’t always the negative we’ve tended to think it is.
Typically we’ve been citizens in a country on the “power” side of the dynamic, so using terror like that meant using it on us, and so we learned that it’s bad.
This time we’re on the other side of the power dynamic, so it’s seemingly… Good.
The bad thing being good creates cognitive dissonance.
This is a direct consequence of “the war on terror” attempting to redefine the military strategy of asymmetrical warfare as terrorism and inherently immoral.
To sell the bullshit “war on terror” the easiest way to make the US seem righteous was to degrade the public’s sense of why people violently resist and reduce it to the act of violently resisting an organized traditional military is immoral unless the thing resisting is also a traditional organized military.
I am glad that narrative is breaking down though as the distortion of how and why violent conflicts occur is dangerously blinding to a basic understanding of the world.
Killing people who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time is always wrong.
I think you will find Palestinian citizens agree with you on that point.
I think you will find Palestinian citizens agree with you on that point.
Yes. And the Israeli hostages.
Technically they didn’t fully rescind it. They rescinded it in some places but not others, and for some patients but not others. It’s just PR, they have no intention of actually changing things.
Finding out after you’ve fucked around isn’t terror.
Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. This guy’s a vigilante.
I guess it all depends how IRA makes you feel lol
Thatcher was the one that got away
Thank fuck Lemmy isn’t owned by corporate interests that need other corporate interests to advertise on them or it’d be happening here, too.
.world does it voluntarily.
This is the top post on all of Lemmy right now and it’s in a .world community.
And the sense of entitlement people on a FREE WEBSITE is ridiculous. How many of the people complaining about .world censorship help pay for the sever?
Not sure why you’re out here defending hugely unpopular behavior.
I’m not defending anything. I’m accusing a bunch of people who think they’re owed something on a free website of being children with a massive sense of entitlement.
Why is not being censored being owed something? Your brain is trash.
Because you do not have a right to not be censored. And since you’ve decided to insult rather than argue, I think there’s no need to continue this discussion.
And yes, I’m aware my brain, and the rest of me, is trash. I don’t know why people have to constantly tell me I’m inferior to them when I’m already aware of it. It’s like people who tell fat people they’re fat.
Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
I don’t pay for .world nor it’s micromanaging moderators and admins. Never have, never would for such a place.
Next time I get a bit of extra cash I will donate to my instance however.
And if you’re posting there and bitching about it, that’s your problem, not .world’s.
No one is forcing you to post there and no one is under any obligation to do what you want in terms of server rules. Sorry, .world is not there to cater to you or anyone else in specific. If your instance has different rules, post there and don’t bitch about the ones in .world.
And no one is forcing you to reply. We will post wherever we want, and bitch about whatever we want, anywhere we want. You seem to feel like you actually are .world, so go ahead and ban everyone who doesn’t bow down to arbitrary garbage. No wonder no one ever has anything positive to say about you squid, it sucks to suck. Be better.
I see, so you can post and bitch whenever you want, but I’m not allowed to.
Why am I different?
And if I’m not different, why are you complaining about me bitching about what I want?
The positions you take lately, and the arguments you make lately are increasingly disappointing.
No one owes .world anything… If those in control make questionable decisions, they are going to be called out regardless of aggressive moderation, it’s all federated, kinda the point.
“Can’t take he heat, get out of the kitchen…” and all that jazz…
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it’s all federated, kinda the point.
So find some other free server that doesn’t have the rules you hate. Isn’t that the point?
I’m sorry, but throwing a fit because a bunch of volunteers on a free website aren’t letting you have your way is just childish.
Something something and I’m tired of pretending it isn’t, etc. The only thing I feel bad about is if he
hashad young children who couldn’t understand he was a waste of skin, they have my sympathy.Feel worse for the millions of children that are parentless due to his policy decisions. His kids will be FINE.
yeah alls his theoretical kids would have is millions of dollars, the best education, a lavish lifestyle, trust funds, but they would not have their asshole dad.
They aren’t theoretical, he did have children.
So do many people who have their claims denied…
I didn’t dispute that?
Some of those who had claims denied are children.
You can feel bad for his family while also not feeling bad about his death. Losing a loved one is hard regardless of how much money you have. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t ultimately a net positive (although I’m doubtful that UH will actually change any policies because of this)
I feel bad for his kids. They didn’t choose their parents.
His wife on the other hand did choose him, so fuck her too.
Aren’t they already seperated?
So she is about to paid out big time with blood money he stole…
Yeah real peach
He and this wife didn’t choose their parents either (and any other contributing factors in their environment that made them who they are). Growing older doesn’t change the causes of the development of their brain, the cause of the choices you make, and if we could have saved them from becoming the person they did then we should.
With even the most evil people we can be sad they died but also happy they can’t do more evil. Uday Hussein, son of Saddam Hussein did some evil stuff and and if we could have prevented him from becoming the person he did when at age 8 or at age 18 then it’s the same.
Don’t the crime if you can’t do the time?
That’s the life his father chose for them.
It isn’t impossible to feel bad for both?
It is about priorities…
What priorities are there? I’m talking about emotions, not actions.
You can feel bad for both the children of this guy that will now grow up without a father and the millions of people he harmed at the same time. I’m not even saying I feel equally as bad for his children as his victims’ children (because losing a parent to a preventable death due to insurance is objectively a worse situation). All I’m saying is it’s reasonable to feel sympathy for both. It’s not like the kids had a choice in what their dad did.
Well I did not know so until this moment for me it was theoretical. It does not matter but now I know.
Crying from the 3rd floor of their yacht…
I would honestly go so far as to suggest that in the long term, not having this monster raise them (given they’ll still have plenty of money) probably leaves them better off.
These execs are scared their own children will ask them to explain what they do for a living. Doubt they raise their kids as much as they pay someone else to do it. That being said, Elmo’s kids are stuck on a compound. That’s definitely going to mess them up.
They’re already teenagers. The damage has been done, but hopefully this act will help them decide not to follow in their father’s footsteps.
His kids are gonna be worse 20-40milliom per head.
They will be fine. I doubt they will ever understand why entire society turned on their parasite shitstain father.
Money doesn’t fix trauma, and childhood trauma is rarely fully healed. The kids did nothing wrong, and you should feel bad for them.
Like I said, my feelings are focused on those he harmed. Eat the fucking rich.
I feel bad they had a monster for a father.
Don’t forget the children whose siblings died due to insurance fuckery, and the parents who’ve lost children.
His kids have been profiting off of the death he had a hand in. They’ll be just fine in their ivory towers, whatever happens.
I’m not celebrating, I just think we should have a massive “Enjoy hell, Brian” wake, on the scale of Boston after the Red Sox won the world series for the first time in 80-something years. But nationwide.
Kind of like being anywhere in Scotland when Margaret Thatcher died.
Why the fuck would the moderators care about how much work it is to remove the posts.
If the admins feel like mods aren’t doing enough to keep a sub within reddits guidelines, they may remove mods or even ban the subreddit entirely.
One of the mods said (in the article) that to their knowledge it’s mostly the paid admins removing it not the unpaid moderators.
The quote I was referencing is this:
“People - Please don’t make the life of your mods a living hell. Anything that is celebrating violence is going to get taken down - if not from us, then from reddit. I think all the mods understand that there is a high level of frustration and antipathy towards insurance and insurance execs, but we also understand that murdering people in the streets is not good. We are a public group of medical professionals, we still need to act like that.”
The line about making their lives a living hell?
If you ever feel the need to type that in reference to your volunteer Reddit moderation… Stand up, go outside.
Well, first of all fuck reddit, but secondly: if you appreciate actual human moderation in any significant sense - it’s hard work.
Getting paid to do it is rare (again - fuck reddit, they should get off of there) but on any site that’s actually trying to honestly build or host a community it takes time to check the reports, message the people, log the entry all that shit. It’s a huge pain in the ass when something blows up, which is why neither you or I will likely ever be mods. When it’s the scale of reddit it’s bound to be a lot of scrambling until shit cools off again.
To be honest, I actually don’t really appreciate human moderation, so that’s probably biasing my position.
I can block communities. I can block users. I can set word filters.
If I block someone, I never have to hear from them again. If a moderator does, they’ll be back with a new account, and then I DO have to hear from them.
I’d far prefer a “federated” and crowdsourced mechanism to layer onto an extremely lightly moderated foundational layer.
If someone, or someones, want to curate a filter list that aligns with my sensibilities, awesome, I’ll opt in. I’ll contribute. If I bump into unresolvable issues with other filter curators I’ll fork the filter.
I don’t need or want a tiny subset of users working full time for free getting burnt out or going on power trip crusades.
we also understand that murdering people in the streets is not good.
Cute of yout to assume plebs think of this guy as a human…
I am not sure about others bit I see a high ranking officer within corpo regime got taken out.
Do we cry when cartel members gets wacked?
If someone is directly responsible for the deaths of millions of people and the courts hold the position that corporate profits outweigh human life, then yeah eventually someone is going to take matters into their own hands. The real question is, will this become a trend? For example, would anyone really be upset if all the would-be school shooters look at this as an example of how their frustrations could be used to make a real difference in the world? Imagine if CEOs were suddenly afraid of real-world consequences when their greed hurts people?
Imagine letting an unpaid position on social media “make life hell”
Regime whores doing regime’s bidding
Who would’ve guessed reddit mods couldn’t grow a pair even if presented with a ball-growing pill
In fact, a moderator from a subreddit we hadn’t reached out to for comment reached out because they heard we were contacting moderators to speak about this. They said every instance they were aware of of the surveillance video of Thompson’s death being removed had not been moderators—who, as a reminder, are unpaid volunteers—but Reddit’s paid administrator team that enforces the sitewide terms of use.
Sure, I’ve read both that and r/nursing parts; but I’m talking about those volunteers who do remove that stuff. I mean, yeah, promoting violence bad, and so on, but maybe the twatwaffles who refuse to build a proper universal healthcare system need to see that ppl support the shooter, and not the attempts of the community to censor itself?
[email protected] deleted a spicy post from a couple days ago. The fediverse isn’t immune but it definitely fares better.
LW is worst at this, they also banned piracy community early on
Because they did not, and still dont, know the laws associated. And rather than actually consult a lawyer, they became armchair experts.
I am not surprised by the LW mods. Its expected.
I am pretty sure .world is paid by the people connected to media/politcal establishment hence why we get a lot of modding similar to reddit.
Although, reddit lost control of asylum, i never seen so much raw hate.
They banned talking about the wrong kind of cat food, for Pete’s sake. I’m still not over that one.
And I’ll proudly wear my ban from there.
It’s one thing to mock it on pseudonymous platforms like Reddit and the fediverse.
It’s another to do it somewhere linked to your real name and job like LinkedIn.
People really hate insurance companies.
People are too hung up about anonimity on the internet. When one of my country’s worst journalistic shitrags mandated a real name policy due to the rampant racism and other -isms in the comment section of their articles… nothing changed. People are happily spewing the same vile rethoric as before and proud to, instead of being shamed into silence.
Don’t do it under your names folks, regime will be making lists based on this.
They are scared and they will lash out.
With that being said, fuck that parasite.
FAFO
Whonix workstation
Do all your public internetting in there
Help, I’m now physically inside my system, but it’s kinda hard to read the screen at this angle. Plus I’ve got to reach out for keyboard input…
You think having a fake online name will stop them from finding out who you are? Did you even pay attention to the Snowden leaks?
No, they said we already knew about that and didn’t give it another thought.
It is almost never a question of whether it’s possible or not. You WILL make a mistake. It’s just a question of how much effort you’re worth as an individual.
right, don’t make it easy for them. plus they got prolly got half a country to put on the list now.
When everyone is on the list, noone is.
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They also have backdoors in most implementations of TLS, according to a person I know who worked government security.
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Still takes more work than just giving them that information.
I work in cryptography, and I guarantee if that’s true “some person you know who worked in government security” would not tell you if they did know, or they are pulling shit out of their ass. There have been so many people that have looked at or worked on SSL/TLS implementations (including some of my coworkers), any vulnerabilities would have to be pretty subtle or clever, and that would be kept highly classified. Quit making shit up or repeating bullshit you heard.
Sure, if we’re talking about code vulnerabilities only. It’s most likely a compromised root cert though.
That just would allow a malicious attacker to fake being the server, it doesn’t actually compromise the TLS session. So you are talking about a much more sophisticated multi stage attack that needs to be actively executed. This wouldn’t at all allow them to record traffic and decrypt later.
The certs authenticate that you are talking to the real server, the symmetric session keys that are usually derived from a diffie helman key exchange have nothing to do with certs. That’s two separate (but connected) parts of the transaction to build a TLS session.
They already have lists. The only hope we have is to stand together in solidarity as the working class against the billionaire capitalists entering power.
lol @ thinking reddit is anonymous
i was talking about people commenting on linkedin actually…
nor did I suggest reddit is anon, but aint you aint got provide your full name and address.
LinkedIn is one of the least sane social media sites I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Under all the marketing BS and obviously fake feel good stories lie takes that would make your insane Facebook uncle blush.
I used to work for a big data company that tracked shares to various social networks and the frequency with which people share porn to LinkedIn was remarkably high.
What?! How?! So I can learn to avoid it!
Maybe it was only-secretaries dot com.
Stop struggling and accept that lots of people are ok with advocating violence against evil people.
Stop struggling and accept that lots of people are ok with advocating violence against
evilpeople.The Adjuster didn’t adjust the witness, merely the parasite.
The people took notice.
I mean, I don’t have a problem with people advocating violence against evil people.
But being happy or laughing does seem pretty tactless and frankly gross.
Death and violence may be necessary in many instances but it should never be glorified or celebrated, simply accepted.
My only concern is that I hope this doesn’t become an Archduke Ferdinand for an American Civil War part 2.
Is it really a civil war when 99% of the people are on one side?
I think you’re underestimating the amount of “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” out there.
united healthcare? how many divisions do they have?
They united the people against them. That’s living up to half the name, I guess.
If that’s the case then it will just be the class war heating up because one side finally started fighting back.
So few of them, so many of us
But how…? Are Magas sad/angry that this happened? Most likely it’s the opposite. This is a poor/middle-class vs rich/ultra-wealthy scenario. I guess unless Fox tells/tricks them to be angry and blame liberals, but I’m sure plenty of them are not upset about this. I see it as “the enemy of my enemy” type deal.
This is the most united America has been since 911
Yeah, even the MAGA people I know are like “aight, cool”
Until Fox News tells them otherwise.
unsuccessfully.
just wait until tr*mp kills section 230
Mods should be joining in on the celebration instead, in particular unpaid / community ones like Reddi’s.
One of r/InterestingAsFuck’s rules is “No politics,” which a moderator for the subreddit told us is the reason it was removed.
A rule for arbitrarily deleting any post on an ill-defined idea that some topics are not political. Why even say such an unreasonable thing when you can just say supporting violence is against site-wide rules?
I bet because nobody was actually supporting violence just gloating BC parasite got FAFO
Why even say such an unreasonable thing when you can just say supporting violence is against site-wide rules?
No one who thinks that hard is still moderating at reddit.
One of r/InterestingAsFuck’s rules is “No politics,” which a moderator for the subreddit told us is the reason it was removed.
That is such a stupid rule, because everything is politics.
that’s some literal communist thinking there mate.
Can you list something non political?
Anarchism. Anarchism is just people working together to topple unjust states with violence if need be. No need for voting or governments or corporations to get involved.
Anarchism is literally a political philosophy. It’s profoundly political.
Yeah, but it’s less political than everything else drag can think of
Broccoli.
You don’t think farming is political? O.o
I speak of the Platonic ideal of broccoli, please don’t sully it with your crude materialism.
Farm subsidies, ad subsidies for that sector, pesticide use and regulation for vegetables, labor laws for harvesting, etc. etc.
Just broccoli. That other stuff is the politics surrounding the pure form.
If you don’t think food is political, you’re not paying attention. ‘Every society is three meals from chaos’
How?
material conditions mean everything, every action you take, every opportunity you have, every thing you buy, literally all of it, is influenced by politics.
Politics is simply the organization of society, and as a human without society you have nothing, you would have to slave away for years just to make a standard no°2 pencil, and even that is influenced by politics because it takes a society to raise a person.
i don’t know if you noticed what site you are on, most people here are at the very least friendly with the notion of communism even if you were right about this
And they aren’t right, to be clear.
they may be friendly with the notion of communism, but apparently don’t know much about communist ideology, because according to dialectical materialism, yes everything is political, from where you work, what you have/use, the food on your plate, and even the thoughts you think are all inherently tied to politics as politics is the ordering of society, and society is a core and indispensable part of the human condition
I don’t think you know the definition of the words “literal” and “communism” if that’s what you think.
I guess the idea of material reality isn’t part of communism, good to know.
