there’s more than shown here and it’s more than just these users too 😭
if you find the thread don’t piss in the popcorn (brigade) but also please maybe don’t bring it back here i don’t want 400 notifications of entry level “is almond milk milk” vegan discourse
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Vegan cat food
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
We got a fresh copypasta before GTA VI
Guys, stop downvoting this person, technically theyre right even if they are wrong by a couple of decades.
Yyeah but if their definition of “fresh” includes the navy seals copypasta, then by god don’t let them sell milk
This copypasta is closer to GTA IV than GTA VI on the timeline.
Well, now I feel 20 years older, lol
Fantastic 🤌
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Damn, I didn’t make the screenshot.
Wanna swap?
make no mistake being in this thread is not a mark of honor lmao
I would just like to bring up that most equestrians don’t farm their horses milk. Without demand it would probably be similar
im so happy the comment section here isnt deranged anti-vegan
well, its nice to eat healthy, but you dont need to call people names.
Almond milk is a waste of water and is priced out of poor families ability to buy them :(
I know. Almond milk is a huge waste of water. But unfortunately, it’s harder to find others like oat and soy in their unsweetened variants.
That just depends on where you are. It is as prevalent in major cities in my state as oat, soy, and alternatives.
major cities
Yeah, I don’t live near one of those. I’d probably raise my carbon footprint more by driving an hour than I would buying a different milk.
this is based on poore-nemececk 2018, a meta"study" that ignores guidance on LCA studies being unable to be combined, and doesn’t even have the integrity to disclose this in the paper. it’s bad science.
“Bad science” is [email protected] for “I don’t want this to be true”.
it could be true, but the study used to support it is flawed.
“flawed study” is @[email protected] for “I didn’t like the conclusions some researcher who spent a long time looking into all the scientific studies drew, so I’m going to cast vague doubts about it instead”
Was gonna make a blizzard joke here, but this person is so intellectual that they wouldn’t get the low-grade humor, or how milk production before markets only works if everyone works a single farm, and cannot work if the population is scaled up.
I want my milk like how Jack the Ripper wants to eat his meat: raw.
The listeria gives it that special kick!
Don’t forget the H5N1 flavors!
Found the carnist
no u
Ah yeah, I’ve had an interaction with that anti-vegan user before, and let me tell ya, if you want to speedrun vegan bingo… ideal discussion partner right there.
TIL there’s a bingo TLD.
The “Vegans are loud and annoying” crowd are more loud and annoying than actual vegans in my personal experience.
But you probably won’t get called a murderer 20 seconds into the discussion though.
You’d be surprised. Both “The farming of your plants kills more animals than livestock raising” and “veganism is genocide because they’ll stop breeding the animals if we stop eating them” unironocally come up almost instantly when I talk about it and I’m not even quite vegan, I just avoid animal products because of allergies to a lot of them…
So true. I’m not vegan, but someone proudly yelling about how much meat they eat is so fucking cringe. Very “suck it, libs” mindset.
Often when society had an extreme default position on a topic, its defenders sound batshit insane.
See:
- Gay and trans rights
- Reproductive rights
- Veganism
- Unregulated capitalism
- Homelessness
That link is a really cool resource, thanks!
It took me a whole 24 hours to realise that the person having a weird, inconsistent, fact-swerving argument with me (about my assertion that most male cattle are killed young for meat) was the original one from the screenshot!
My last time talking to them, they were arguing that the use of the word “exploitation” in the vegan society’s definition of veganism simply meant “use” because that’s a thesaurus entry for exploitation. When their argument breaks down they go full on “words are just invented”.
I found the comment chain. Nuts. They always pick and the weirdest stuff to argue over.
When their argument breaks down they go full on “words are just invented”.
that never happened
The happy animals one is hilarious. I would have no problem with someone eating me after I died and I sure as shit am not happy
Ah yes. That one is the one where every interlocutor happens to only eat meat “from their uncles farm with 3 cows on 40 acres of pasture, where they’re hand-scrubbed by cherubs while eating figs.”
and the cows only die of old age and untreatable disease…
Aw man I fucked that up. My uncle has 40 cows on 3 acres that get hand scrubbed by figs while eating cherubs.
So we’re not getting hand milked by 40 cows while getting figged by 3 cherubs.
I don’t care about my corpse after I’m dead, but I do somewhat disagree with getting killed.
I donate my corpse to necrophiliacs after I die. Go nuts you guys. Just be sure to see if the cannibals want a slice before you throw the used Me-light in the trash
Either way, it would be really hard to voice my opinion
But would you want to … get … Milked?
Sorry
Yes please
You wouldn’t drink Valmond milk?
Best milk ever, from a non suffering animal who enjoy consensually sharing it too.
Yes
I’m not even sure if that bingo is supposed to be pro-vegan or anti-vegan …
When I was a young vegling, I spent some time doing “outreach” on r/DebateAVegan (air quotes because it often felt about as impactful as having a wank), and you’d see those bingo arguments being used earnestly ALL THE TIME.
I actually did occasionally get some fairly novel and thought provoking stuff, from time to time, but mostly it was explaining the basics of biology or econ to people like in OP’s example.
My main problem is when people are aggressively trying to make me feel guilty about just living.
Just curious, does a community like that exist here on lemmy? I do have some questions that aren’t answered by the vegan bingo and would love to ask someone, but going straight to [email protected] feels kinda intrusive
[email protected] specifically disallows debate style posts. Your best bet is probably either [email protected] or [email protected]
I’ll say as someone who mods [email protected] that we’re really not a debate community either. It’s not like it’s disallowed per se (especially within the context of “would two vegans be likely to agree about this?”), but I talk about some of the philosophy behind Rule 5 here and why it’s therefore discouraged.
Yeah, thank you for the clarification. Re-reading my comment, I realise I didn’t do a very good job of expressing this, as I didn’t mean to imply V@LW was a community for debate. Just that a polite question might be fine there, so long as it comes from a genuine desire to learn, instead of trying to make an opening to disagree.
35 points for Ravenclaw for the provision of the vegan bingo.
politely raises hand
While I think factory farming is abhorrent, I find the most compelling reasons to eat plant-based to be the environmental ones. Therefore, I think “I only eat a little bit of meat” is actually a huge positive step someone can take. If your primary concern regarding meat is the cruelty of taking the life of another animal, that’s completely valid, but compared to the others, that square just feels out of place.
I’m not antivegan
Unequivocally, yes you are, and at that, you’re one of the most agonizingly stubborn and disinformed ones I’ve ever talked to.
Edit: Sharing this conversation here in the context of them being banned from /c/vegan so users can understand how completely full of shit this user is (yes, their actual argument they started at /c/vegan is that vegans starting from a position of “humans have rights” is a flawed position to start from and thus invalidates their argument for veganism):
Edit 2: Oh, and they have this thing where they like to reply to a single comment with several comments while claiming it’s because they “don’t want to engage in a Gish gallop” (paraphrased), meanwhile facilitating a Gish gallop by making an unfollowable branching tree of comments.
your link shows the same as the op thread: I’m primarily interested in a factual, scientifically accurate discussion.
My link shows that you’re interested in muddying the waters by either intentionally spreading disinformation or by speaking with absolute confidence about subjects you clearly lack the capacity to understand even the most fundamental principles of.
anyone can read it and see i grasp the subject, and reject unscientific work.
Educated stupid
You grasp the subject so much that you’re too fucking stupid to understand the most basic facets of supply and demand that a literal 10-year-old could understand. lmao okay
I’m still unsure whether they actually believe what they are saying makes any kind of sense and could actually be deemed a rational thought or whether they are just pulling our legs. Either way, engaging in any kind of discussion with them should probably just be avoided
I’m the authority in my own beliefs, and I am not antivegan
You sure love to argue against points that you perceive as supporting veganism, though!
i only argue against specious claims. I think there are fine reasons to choose to be vegan.
You sure love to argue against posts that you perceive as supporting veganism. You spent a whole day arguing against “most male cows are killed for meat before adulthood”!
you don’t know what my perception is. you can only speak to your own.
It’s all about downplaying and denying.
Almonds are bad for bees? Huh
Mr. President there has been another cat food incident
a second low-tier vegan talking point has hit the servers
I’m gonna need you to crop your memes my guy. This is a violation.
the joke is the bad crop/wall of text
Oh! It hurts me.
Reading that kinda hurts my brain
What’s the causal link between that comment being created and your brain hurting? Brains have hurt since before comment sections existed.
disagree, comment sections are the literal antichrist
I concede.
That’s why I have headaches every day
Production do be existing cause of demand tho
Exhibit A: Cheese.
It took me way too long to admit that the poster was talking about production as in “is being produced by nature without human interference” and not “humans produce it because humans want it”
that is not what i was saying
Then what the heck were you saying? That a family might keep a couple goats around? Because I think that still counts as demand.
I’m saying that demand does not cause production.
Naw, they think that a reduction in demand would not reduce supply. As to why anyone would keep making production levels of milk to rot away with no buyers? They need to see it to believe it.
Ohhhh. Thanks
I milk oats
