The suspect was at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pennsylvania and was recognized by an employee who then called local police.
I’m accusing parallel construction. The released photos have so little detail that there must be a hundred thousand Americans that match their appearance.
Someone did their Snowden reading:
Parallel construction is a law enforcement process of building a parallel, or separate, evidentiary basis for a criminal investigation in order to limit disclosure as to the origins of an investigation.
In the US, a particular form is evidence laundering, where one police officer obtains evidence via means that are in violation of the Fourth Amendment
De facto illegal and shady as hell, but in use when the (feds especially) want to catch someone, typically via warrantless SIGINT mass surveillance. They’ll do the investigation using dragnets and broad searches through metadata and other means that are illegal and inadmissible in court, then an incredibly convenient cop/witness/informant will appear with information that permits an arrest/search under permissible means - under the hope that the suspect has incriminating evidence.
This is wayyy too convenient to get him, with all the evidence on hand, from a ‘concerned citizen’. We live in a police state, that serves the ruling and moneyed class.
To be fair, the video of the shooter had the upper half of his face.
And the guy they arrested has the upper half of his face.
Although I have the upper half of my face.
Do you have the upper half of your face? If not we can probably rule you out.
I wish him a very merry
mistrialJURY NULLIFICATION. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqH_Y1TupoQWe should start a pardon petition.
Nah, mistrial means he can get tried again at a later date.
Wish him a very happy not guilty verdict via JURY NULLIFICATION
Officer Tyler Frye, who has only been on the job for about six months, and a fellow officer responded to the McDonald’s where the suspect was spotted, the AP reports.
They asked him to pull his blue medical mask down and “recognized him immediately” Frye said. “We didn’t even think twice about it, we knew that was our guy.”
Frye said, “It feels good to get a guy like that off the street, especially starting my career this way, it feels great.”
Yeah… Great job. I’m sure your corporate overloads will appreciate it.
After Mangione provided his real name and birth date, he was taken into custody on charges of forgery and false identification to law enforcement, court documents say.
Tell me its not illegal to possess a false ID and present it to a private corporation like a hotel, for privacy, right?
My understanding is this is only a crime when presenting it to police or other State official
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Fuckin’ snitches.
No wait, hang on, you’re telling me that this guy managed to get out of New York City after committing one of the most high profile killings ever and instead of laying low and waiting for the news to blow over he got caught in a McDonalds during an active manhunt with a fake I.D., the murder weapon, and a manifesto all on his person? Either he wanted to get caught, or I smell a scapegoat here. Can’t have America’s oldest gang losing face in front of their corporate sponsors, now can we?
Looks like the dude had back pain, healthcare provier wouldnt pay to get it fixed so he took revenge.
Careful, .world admins don’t like people mentioning jury nullification
They specifically said it’s okay in reference to crimes already committed.
To clarify, the admins have updated their views in reaction to this week and user feedback:
Following a discussion in our team we want to clarify that we are no longer requesting moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification in the context of violent crimes when the crime in question already happened. We will still consider suggestions of jury nullification for crimes that have not (yet) happened as advocation for violence, which is violating our terms of service.
You mean that very legal and factually-suppprted facet of the American justice system that every juror should be informed about before making a decision in court?
Technically, it is not legal. However, there’s no way to either prove it, nor is there any recourse against it.
Technically we have jury exactly for that reason.
Otherwise we only would need a judge.
The whole idea behind jury is meant to prevent judge from convicting someone if peers don’t believe the crime should be punished.
Here is an example of that from wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Talaat_Pasha . Jury nullification (1921, Germany).
Please point me to the statute or code which states a juror is legally obliged to render an accurate and truthful verdict, and explain how you would enforce such a thing.
I guess you’ve never done jury duty, but when I have, they make you swear an oath more or less to that effect. I’m pretty sure it can be prosecuted, but if you want to the specific laws, you’re welcome to find that for yourself.
If you have also done jury duty, you will recall that the duration of the deliberation is done in a sealed room with no officials present.
You can absolutely conspire to nullify in complete discretion because your conversations legally cannot leave the room until the case has shut.
I hung and nullified a jury myself. It was very uncomfortable. At two points I requested the judge to come in and explain to the rest of the jurors I didn’t owe them any explanation for my not guilty verdict. It took the trial out an additional two days and everyone was pissed at me but I was not going to sit in my privilege and give a guy a felony conviction after months of obvious police harassment.
It is actually legal. It’s built directly from the laws and kind of a necessary component if you want jury trials to actually work and not just be a kangaroo court. People just don’t like it.
It is very much legal. It just gets used by jurors to try and get out of jury duty, and then, judges will try and hold you in contempt if you attempt to use it for that purpose.
The hivemind didn’t like that but it’s true, in most states just uttering the words anywhere near the courthouse can cause mistrials and a misdemeanor charge.
They revised mod policy to only hand out bans/deletions if jury nullification was referenced as a cause to vilence, not a reaction o past events. I’m paraphrasing, of course.
Yeah, basically
“Go do [Violence] and we’ll do jury nullification afterwards” is bad, bur
“[Violence happened], but it was justified in the eyes of the majority of people so jury Nullification should happen”
Is OK
We should all completely cease talking about it. It, of course being jury nullification.
Why? Seems like something people should know about.
I think that message was a sort of sarcastic way of getting around a “dont talk about jury nullification” rule, in that saying “we cant talk about x”, while making it very clear what x is, prompts people unfamiliar with x to go look it up
Ding ding ding. Ding, of course being jury nullification
I’m warning you. If you say jury nullification once more…
Ding (jury nullification)
Because the refusal to convict someone based on laws and circumstances you feel are unjust is wrong and goes against everything the ruling class have fought for.
But if also a cornerstone. (For better and worse–it got and still gets used to excuse people who commit hate crimes, for example.)
The “good ol’ boy” excuse.
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“He’s got a promising life ahead of him!”
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“It’s just how things are done, that ain’t his fault!”
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“He just didn’t know any better!”
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“We’ve all done stupid things before, who are we to judge?”
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“He’s a pillar of the community, think of all the good he’s done!”
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What is the reasoning? Is there any?
Good time to switch away from .world
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Switched to dbzer0 straight after seeing a mod try and justify the censorship of this topic by saying something along the lines of “only God can judge.”
Now I get to enjoy aaaall the content world has defederated from.
The policy was cleared up, basically EU/Dutch/Finnish law doesn’t like Jury Nullification in regards to future crimes/calls to violence. But in regards to crimes already committed it’s fine. And being as that’s where .world is hosted, that’s the law they go by.
I don’t care, already left
Bunch of bootlickers
You really think every person in real life goes ahead with supporting this murder just because you heard enough people online repeating this in this echo chamber?
Yeah, they seem to…
I’ve definitely heard both sides of the argument from people who are in no way rich. This is an echo chamber on anti-wealth issues. What people agree on is getting rid of health insurance.
Bro there are Ben Shapiro watchers mad at him for shilling for big corporate interests in the reporting over this story. They agree with the killer too lol
No. Everybody knows that some people stand up for mass murderers, so long as they do it by enough proxy layers.
Plenty of people betray society for want of looking down on others
It goes well beyond any one echo chamber, I still have Xitter and peruse TikTok from time to time. It was/is everywhere across the political spectrum
Dreamy
Muad’ib lookin’ ass
Mama mia!
God damn.
Would
He’s pretty cute! See if you can find a picture of his dad.
Why is I Did A Thing not wearing his apron?
As someone said on another site: Cuty McShooty
Bring me the Luigi crossover memes. Bring me them all.
Important lessons here kids. Just sayin’
A bunch of rich people were scared. Now we are about to see a bunch of theater to make them all feel safe and good about treating the peasants poorly. Mark my words.
Bruh you burn that shit the moment you’re in the clear. Even your average armchair revolutionary knows that.
I want to read his manifesto and support his defence.
‘Mein Anspruch’
