The Fun Police really misinterpreted this. This is not saying anything about how good or bad LD is. I was just expecting something more like what TAS was to TOS. Other than the fact that TAS episodes were half the length and that the animated nature allowed them to afford to depict more exotic things like underwater scenes and six-limbed bridge crew members, TOS/TAS were mostly the same. They had roughly the same degree of adventure, philosophy, humor, etc. On the other hand, LD targeted a different audience by focusing on qualities that had not been prioritized in any earlier series. I was just disappointed by how different LD is from TAS.
Careful up there on your high horse
they stole the design and much more from Final Space
fuck that show
You’re overgeneralizing. Final Space is just one of a category of adult animated shows with that style, starting with Brickleberry (which for the record is pretty shit and not worth watching).
no. tosh os brickle …havent even seen it. but you say that was the first “space cartoon/animation with modern humor”?
brickleberry looks like its done with Adobe Animate while FinalSpace looks better than the theft star trek did. color grading? huh…also i do not see your fanboy speech: brickle has a different color grading, star trek just stole it from final space. you are basicaly consuming AI slop and now tell everyone it is tasty. sorry man, but you are consuming shit and with that action you lower the future quality of animation and then will have to eat more shit.
LOOOL you’re lost in the sauce bud.
I don’t think it’s anything like Final Space apart from them both taking place in space. I also don’t think they’re all that similar in design, but if you want to say the design was stolen, they both resemble Seth MacFarlane shows in design.
seth did some great star wars movies. absolutely. this star trek crime on the other hand stole and killed the humor, graphic style etc from final space. read the creators comments on that maybe. so fuck this show. i even deleted tng from my tv show archive.
You deleted a show made decades before Lower Decks, made by people totally uninvolved with Lower Decks, because of Lower Decks?
just saying the franchise is dead to me
Well that’s very silly. Measure of a Man or Darmok are the same episodes now as they were then. Nothing has changed about them. It’s like saying the entire franchise is dead to you because Nemesis was horrible. As if that somehow undoes everything that came before it and might come after it.
You’re like one of those “the movie ruined my childhood!” people when a remake of something comes out and they didn’t like it. No it didn’t, you were an adult when you saw it.
In other words-
dude, sometimes companies start really nice. like google maybe. and then over time they love money so much that they die inside. zenith passed. i also stopped using facebook. the the star trek franchise is dead. star trek discovery is also over…that was shit too.
you’re right; that’ll teach them! delete your pirated copy of tng to teach ‘em a lesson
I watched the first four episodes or so and what I noticed the most was how it seemed like every character was either yelling or speaking at high volume the whole time. It was exhausting. I really like R&M and I know this is from one of the key creatives on that show so it was super disappointing.
The dialogue gets a lot more chill as the show goes on. It’s noticeably better by the end of season 1.
My dad felt the same, but he powered through a couple more episodes and it gets noticably better, and has now seen all of it except the most recent season. They even make a joke about loud and fast they used to speak at one point. So if you’re willing to, I’d say give it a go it really is worth it imo.
Four episodes don’t define a single season (especially when it’s the first season) let alone an entire show with five of them.
Had the same initial reaction, then I gave it a second try and I was in by the end of season 1. I roll my eyes when people say “it gets better after a while” but Lower Decks does take ~5-6 episodes to find itself. (Does Evil AI Jeffrey Combs do anything for you?)
The difference is really just the profanity because even cartoons made for children tend to have violence and toilet humor.
i love lower decks but that’s in spite of and not because of the “adult humor.” the jokes that make me laugh- which is most of them!- would be exactly the same if it was an all ages program on Nickelodeon like Prodigy. the good does ultimately outweigh the bad, and signifigantly so, i just think it was a missed opportunity. i was pretty young when i watched TNG and TOS with my parents and probably would’ve gotten a huge kick out of LD
apparently tawney newsome is gonna be writing on the starfleet academy show so that might end up being The Best of Both Worlds (Parts I and II) between all-ages trek and funny trek
Lower Decks is peak Star Trek. The humor is almost entirely related to previous ST series.
Is OP a Klingon agent sent to ruin our fun?
I think you might be in a minority on your dislike of Lower Decks.
Also, violence has always been part of Star Trek and if you don’t like profanity, you are posting in the wrong fucking place.
Also, Patrick Stewart is a huge fan of Beavis and Butthead (or at least used to be), so I’m guessing he doesn’t have much of a problem with violence, profanity or sophomoric humour.
Edit: still is. https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/patrick-stewart-has-an-innate-gravitas-but-who-knew-he-is-such-a-huge-beavis-and-butthead-fan
Hehe, cool. 😎
Goddamn it would be amazing to talk to Patrick Stewart , but instead of Shakespere or Star Trek, talk about Transmetropolitan and Mike Judge works.
That’s a fun fact. Now it makes more sense that he also does voice acting on American Dad, I’d have to think he’s okay with all the violence/humor in Seth MacFarlane shows (American Dad, Family Guy, etc.) along with other “adult” animated works.
now we just need him to cameo on the orville… i expect they’d do it so perfectly
I don’t remember where I saw or heard it, but when I was younger I came across an interview with some of the other cast of TNG talking about how Patrick Stewart originally came in this very disciplined classic Shakespearean actor and how he really started loosening up after a couple of years.
Similarly, Steam has some option about “adult only games” that doesn’t seem to mean “you don’t have to keep asking me my birthday for ‘grim’ games”, i.e. games you have to verify you’re an adult to see, instead it seems to mean “show me porn games”.
This kind of bowdlerised English or whatever it’s called is usually weird and confusing to us non-natives. Like, it’s apparently OK to have the puerile stuff, you just can’t be normal about it?
“Adult” doesn’t imply genital stuff to the rest of us, USA.
I guess the secondary directive of the Federation is to gatekeep having fun?
Animation isn’t for children by default. Only boring, unimaginative people talk that way about animated stories.
Star Trek has always had violence.
Star Trek has often had profanity. In another alien language sure, but we all knew which Klingon words were curses.
Does sophomoric humor graduate to senior humor when it’s subtle enough that you didn’t catch it as a child? Humor is SUPER subjective and VERY sensitive to the current zeitgeist, so comparing humor across a franchise that has been around this long seems a little absurd. Data pushed Crusher into the ocean for a laugh, that seems pretty sophomoric to me. Bones regularly joked about Spock’s racial differences, that also seems pretty crude by today’s standards.
Animation isn’t for children by default.
In fact, early animation was not even thought of to appeal to a particular age group. It was just a fun thing to do with movies that you couldn’t do with live action. And people who did comic strips in newspapers, never intended to be just for kids, were hired to make them.
it’s the first Trek comedy
that’s it!
That movie is a masterwork of dramatic, whale-based storytelling. How very dare you.
Well, double dumb ass on you!
My friend did a little too much LDS in the Sixties.
Was it while he was working on the nuclear wessels?
I think you’re missing the context of ALL the adult animation shows that came before it, because Lower Decks does something special in that category. LD takes the typical adult animation sitcom and mixes in the optimism and character writing from the best Star Trek shows, and it does this quite well. (By the way, they tone down the Rick and Morty stuff after the first few episodes, so don’t get discouraged if that’s what’s bothering you).
Dude, TAS was set on the flagship of the fleet, LD is set on a B grade tow truck.
They are not the same
Well now I have to check it out
You need to check it out anyway. Everyone needs to learn about The Koala.
it’s good. treat it like Futurama
Watch the first 5 seasons on repeat, then occasionally go through the rest of the series to remember why you only watch the first five?
7 is good
No one misinterpreted your original post. It was sarcastic and dismissive, so people responded with that same energy.
As to the edit, I think it’s good that the new Trek shows each have such distinct personalities. They won’t all appeal to everyone, but the overall diversity is a strength. Part of what killed Star Trek in the 2000s was that TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise had all stuck to a very consistent approach. After close to twenty years, it was inevitably feeling a bit stale.
It was sarcastic and dismissive
So, yes, you misinterpreted it. Maybe that is how it came off to you, but that was not my intent. Whoops! I tried to find a Lower Decks gif that best portrayed “disappointment” without also portraying anything like “disgust”.
I’m not much of a sitcom fan. They’re rarely clever or supriseing. They feel like they write themselves in the most obvious way. And because of that they mostly bore me.
All that being said. Lower Decks nothing different.
I binged the whole series in the last month. Just finished the last episode this morning. And almost laguhed for the first time, when ransom said “Engage the core!” I didn’t laugh. But it did get a smile out of me. Now it’s over. And I can forget whatever it was I was talking about.
