I’d sincerely recommend everyone to read his manifesto and think about it a little bit.

      • Aatube
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        what else are you gonna scrawl hastily? luigi was just a regular upperclassman but with actual gall. opportunity doesn’t wait for you to compose a manifesto

    • @[email protected]
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      “I love the taste of glowie boot and will fellate some leather to completion when you come knocking, but first, crimes”

            • Redjard
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              Glow in the dark, Glowie, Glows, Glowfag, Glownigger:

              The term was coined by Terry A. Davis, a computer programmer diagnosed with schizophrenia, who allegedly believed that the CIA was stalking and harassing him. “Glowie” is often used in online forums to refer to government agents, especially undercover operatives who infiltrate online extremist spaces.

              “Glow in the dark” and its derivative terms have been used to refer to various groups: newcomers that do not fit in with the culture of certain forums and are thus suspected to have bad intentions, journalists who report on extremist groups, tech companies that collect users’ personal data, and others.[1][5][6][7]

              I looked at the explanation there, which mentions shizophrenia and IT origins.
              I see now that the list of words contains racist etc. variations, which I’m guessing is what you are referring to?

              Personally I have seen glowie used in “shizophrenic” places worrying about privacy and government surveillance and the likes, but I have never seen the questionable variations nor seen any racist people or content in combination with “glowie”.

              Is this a guilt by association thing? Where the inventor of the word was racist and used it in racist variations so the base word itself is taboo somehow?

              • @[email protected]
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                It’s safe to say that the vast majority of people using the term know about its origin, and it’s not mere association, but literal origin (see the video above), and also the original form “glownigger” is still widely used (it’s bizarre that it’s on the end of the list on Wikipedia, in fact, after some forms that are probably barely used). Otherwise “glowie” doesn’t make much sense at all, doesn’t it? It’s a softened version pto avoid the overt racism, but it still gives a wink to it.

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                  safe to say

                  That’s why I’m asking, I have not seen that usage, and prior to this I was not aware of any problems with the term.

                  literal origin

                  I don’t really care how a word was created, I care how it is used and percieved. Words can fall into and out of bad association, and massive raging assholes can coin words without problematic meaning.

                  Otherwise “glowie” doesn’t make much sense at all, doesn’t it?

                  I don’t see a problem with it, I thought it was a great short word to describe a specific problem (surveillance) with a specific vibe (shizophrenia).
                  There are plenty of words of similar shape, like buddy or goalie, sometimes abbreviations sometimes created like that. Never felt glowie was missing anything, if you asked me to come up with a term for “someone who glows in the dark” I may have arrived at the same word.

                  the original form “glownigger” is still widely used (it’s bizarre that it’s on the end of the list on Wikipedia, in fact, after some forms that are probably barely used).

                  This is probably what it comes down to. Clearly we must frequent different places, so where did you see that and what makes you think this association extends into the wider world?
                  And then also how is it bridged to glowie? I have seen the old r/waterniggers and that hasn’t affected the words hydrohomie, water, and water utility worker to my knowledge.

  • @[email protected]
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    my man Luigi’s taking the fall for the real hero, is there nothing this handsome , suffering soul won’t do for good?

  • ben
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    Nothing ever happens and everything is a conspiracy

    • @[email protected]
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      I mean they’re taking a few liberties there to.my.knowledge but thats close to the official story and it is contusionesque. Unless Luigi wanted to get caught after letting all CEOs cook for a few days.

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        Which I think would make sense if he wanted to send a message. For example: he lays low and check press coverage to see if they report on it the way he wants. If he doesn’t get the reaction he’s looking for then he can turn himself in and get another chance to speak to the public more directly.

        I can see some logic to it.

        His goal wasn’t to get away with murder, his goal was to highlight the system in a way that couldn’t be ignored.

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          But why would him be getting caught be necessary here? The motive was pretty obvious simply due to his role as CEO, and the shell casings removed any doubt. It’s not like his “manifesto” revealed much about his motives that wasn’t obvious from the bullet casings. In terms of sending his message, what did he getting caught actually accomplish?

    • @[email protected]
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      Everything the authorities say is true and there is no possibility of collusion behind closed doors.

    • @[email protected]
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      Well, everybody does stupid things, and he may have wanted to get caught…

      But the entire story is incredibly weird. It looks like those official explanations that say “well, he shot himself on the head and 20 minutes later shot his wife; that’s absolutely the case!”

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        I think it’s much more likely that he either wanted to be caught, or it could just be that the guy that did something ill advised (killing someone in public while making very little effort to hide his face besides a cloth mask that he pulled down on several occasions) didn’t really have much in the way of a contingency plan.

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        One possibility is that Luigi is just a vaguely similar looking guy who happened to be in the area at the time of the shooting. They found some DNA from a coffee cup or similar that he dumped in a trash can near the scene. So they actually do have real DNA evidence of him being in the proximity. Once they were confident they had air-tight proof that he was in the viscinity, the cops just went ahead and manufactured the rest of the evidence. So Luigi really was by chance near the scene of the crime, but it’s Manhattan, plenty of people were near the scene of the crime.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          And there are tons of people who look like The Adjuster, because it’s not a very unique look.

  • caseyweederman
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    Here’s what I might do if I couldn’t catch a murderer but wanted to make an example anyway, and I had access to AI art that was very good at getting approximately accurate images of people…

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    Important to note: 3D PRINTED FIREARMS DO NOT BREAK WITH A FEW USES

    Firsthand knowledge.

    200-250 rounds and still going strong, inspected before and after firing every time

    No damage so far.

    Beyond that point, I agree with everything posted.

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        What if I told you about “80% receivers” and parts kits that have been in use for decades by hobbyists?

        • Individuals who make their own firearms may use a 3D printing process or any other process, as long as the firearm is “detectable” as defined in the Gun Control Act. You do not have to add a serial number or register the [privately made firearm] if you are not engaged in the business of making firearms for livelihood or profit.

        “80% receivers” are a weird line in the sand to pick between “random hunk of metal/plastic” and “yeah that’s a gun bro” but words have meaning that (still) have to be defined in law, and you can build a 100%* factory looking gun with zero 3D printed parts and no serial number.

        *Depends on your skill with tools and machinery ofc, but can be done with a hand drill and a basic file with enough patience

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        There’s a whole community for it! There’s a YouTube channel called “Print, Shoot, Repeat” that actually talks about the gun police showed

        • Lemminary
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          Cool! I’m not into firearms gives them some other appeal. I’m gonna check that out.

    • @[email protected]
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      Yeah 3d printed gun is such a misnomer for most of the “ghost guns”, the gun he had was just the printed frame. That section of the 3d printing community isn’t really my scene but that seems to be what I’ve seen for all the printed guns, lower/frame with barrel and trigger assembly being metal pieces. I think years ago I saw a modern reinterpreting of the WW2 Liberator that was done in all plastic but that’s obviously designed to shoot only once.

      I’m sure you know more about the scene than I do and can correct or verify my knowledge.

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        To add on to what you said, only the lower recievers for most guns have to be registered. Someone could hypothetically get every other upper part for a pistol or rifle delivered directly to their door or PO box with no questions asked, and then just hypothetically 3d print the lower reciever.

      • Miles O'Brien
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        The ones I have use 3d printed frames, the fire control group and barrels are metal with 3d printed pieces for making the rifling.

        All the parts that take repeated heavy abuse are reinforced with extra thickness or different infil, but by weight I’d say it’s about 50/50 metal/plastic.

        The 3d printed lowers are quite basic, and since they aren’t designed to take a ton of stress anyway, it’s not really hard to find a decent design.

        All my parts are printed in pla+, and I do minimal work afterwards to make things perfect, only what is necessary for the mechanical parts to cycle properly.

        I actually haven’t been keeping up the last few years, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are even better methods than the ones I’ve used.

    • @[email protected]
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      I was coming here to say this, I have an (unfinished) semi-auto 9mm carbine and its only part from a real gun is a barrel from a Glock because I didn’t feel like making my own XD

    • @[email protected]
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      Yeah, the early 3D printed guns were garbage, but modern ones are much more durable. Changes in design have allowed for the use of off-the-shelf parts for the most important moving pieces, which means you have the durability of those off-the-shelf parts instead. The 3D print is basically just holding the machined parts together.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yeah but people don’t consider printing a handle to be a “3d printed gun” unless you’re trying to ban their existence entirely.

      • @[email protected]
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        it’s not like homemade guns are a new thing, it’s just that now we can make them not look like pipe guns from fallout 4

      • @[email protected]
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        Most 3d printed guns are constructed very similarly to “real” commercially available (in burgerland) guns that use a polymer construction. The plastic is taking very little of the force, they use metal inserts and rails that the mechanical parts connect to. This distributes the load a lot. I haven’t printed any yet, mostly because you basically need to buy a whole gun to build one, but they aren’t magic or anything and you could do the same thing with woodworking tools by hand if you had a lot of patience.

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          The most reliable one I have uses an AR style fire control group, and large metal pieces for the bolt, and pre-hardened hydraulic tubing for the barrel.

          There’s plenty of metal in it, all held together via 3d printed parts and frame

          The only things I needed to buy that I would consider “from a firearm” or “from a gun store” would be the fire control group. Everything else was bought from McMaster Carr or local hardware stores.

          Spot on with the woodworking. I’ve made a couple stocks for my grandfather’s old broken long rifles. It’s just more time consuming. (also my 3d printer isn’t that long)

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            I was mostly thinking of the handgun builds I’ve seen with hand made slide rails but the rest is just a Glock(or whatever else base gun) parts kit for everything else.

    • @[email protected]
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      Based O’Brien would engineer a thousand-round 3D printed gun while the federation’s ATF just weeps in a corner

  • @[email protected]
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    I still don’t think he’s the same guy who shot the CEO, it’s clearly for me a different person in the photos…

    However, at this point this changes nothing of what’s going to happen, anyone caught for this would be facing the same charges. Let’s hope the jury feels as we all do and lets him walk

  • RandomStickman
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    A minor correction, 3D printed guns are fairly reliable nowadays when made in a way such that all pressure bearing parts are made with metal/factory made regular parts

    • @[email protected]
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      I think it was also clarified that the gun was a Glock with 3d printed lower, which is basically a normal Glock with different plastic.

      • Aatube
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        sauce? i’m seeing that he just got a purely-ghost(edit: homemade) gun

        • @[email protected]
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          That functionally is a ghost gun in the US because only the lower is registered. Everything else is off the shelf, theoretically untraceable bits.

          • Aatube
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            yes, and i’m saying that all the sources I see say it was completely homemade

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          The lower / reciever / frame is the part of a semi auto handgun that has the serial number, as this is the part that is legally considered ‘the firearm’.

          If you 3d print the lower, you can just buy every other part, often without a background check, in many instances without any ID at all, and assemble the gun around your 3d printed lower.

          What makes something a ghost gun is that it does not have a serial number that can be tied back to a purchaser, who would have had to be ID’d / NICS checked or w/e.

          What makes it a ghost gun is not that it is entirely made of plastic that wouldn’t show up on a xray or something, its that it is untraceable to a point of origin if you have the gun and nothing else to go on.

          The other way people do this is by destroying the etched in serial number.

          I haven’t actually heard it confirmed that Luigi only had 3d printed the lower, though for a normal person, that would probably be the easiest way to assemble a ghost gun.

          But, he’s an engineering graduate.

          Its possible he did ‘3d print’ many other components by using metal machining tools.

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              Well, you said ghost gun.

              A homemade gun can be, but is not necessarily a ghost gun.

              You can purchase a serial stamped, legal, traceable lower reciever/frame, and then purchase all the rest of the components of a gun, and assemble the whole gun yourself.

              This is fairly common amongst experienced gun enthusiasts who prefer specific brands or designs for various parts, and like to do their own custom builds.

              The result is a totally legal, non ghost, homemade gun.

              Long Explanation of all the metal FGC9 parts an average person cannot make at home, period, or metal parts you can make at home but would need to have a CNC machine and significant machine shop experience.

              The FGC 9 that you linked an article about… yes, it does feature more 3d printed parts which are typically made of metal… but it still requires you to buy many various metal parts.

              https://www.hickoryhillarms.com/post/building-the-fgc-9

              So even with this thing, here’s all the parts that are not 3d printed plastic, that you would be very difficult even for an engineering graduate to create on their own unless they had access to their own industial machining tool manufactory:

              Fire Control / Trigger Mechanism; Springs Disconnector Pin

              Hammer Hammer Spring

              Grip Screw Grip Screw Lock Washer

              Feed Ramp Screw

              Mag Catch Spring

              Primary Buffer Spring Secondary Buffer Spring

              Brace Screw

              Ejector Screw

              Alan Key / Wrench

              Firing Pin Retaining Screw Firing Pin Retaining Screw Nut

              Reciever Screw

              Firing Pin Firing Pin Screw

              … Phew. Ok, so, sure these parts are not that difficult to purchase, why bother listing them all?

              Because you said you don’t need to be an engineering graduate to make the metal parts of a gun.

              That’s not true for all the above parts.

              You’d need to have an entire manufactory to make these things out of the material required, at the quality required.

              The following parts actually could be CNC’d by someone with moderate experience with a CNC machine, and a CNC machine at home, but they’re not made of 3d printed plastic:

              Bolt

              Barrel (Non Threaded, thus significantly innacurate at range)

              Now, if you are even more experienced with machining, you may be able to produce a threaded barrel…

              … But at that point we are talking about an experienced machinist with pretty uncommon equipment, which itself can be traced.

              Either way, you can’t make the bolt or barrel out of plastic for the FGC 9, and while yes, a novice machinist could learn how to machine one at home, the vast majority of people who build FGC 9s purchase the bolt and barrel from someone who runs a small, often psuedo legal business of making them.

    • @[email protected]
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      Yeah was gonna comment this. There are totally functional 9mm machine pistols with everything made from printed and standard hardware store parts.

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          Yeah chiming in here to agree, 3D printed guns are now nearly identical in performance to other polymer based guns (like Glocks for instance).

            • @[email protected]
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              All guns degrade after being fired, but modern production firearms are just plastic wrapped around metal tubes. 3D printed guns have always worked on the same principle but it takes time to develop them to the same safety standards.

            • Orvorn
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              Not if they’re made correctly, with good materials like nylon-cf, correct print settings, and good post processing. It’s a process that takes a day or two and requires a small amount knowledge and skill.

              A handgun made like that will function for thousands of rounds.

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      You just 3d print the lower reciever, most modern handguns use injection molded plastic for this part, and a good 3d printer (and operator) can get a pretty decent result.

      But its not just the ‘pressure bearing’ parts that cannot easily be 3d printed.

      Almost everything else still has to be either purchased or very, very carefully assembled by hand with skill and machining tools.

      Here’s a Glock 40:

      Its basically a pretty bad idea (impossible with springs) to try to replace any of the metal parts with 3d printed plastic, many more parts than the barrel and slide are made of metal, and many of those parts could easily fail, even after mag worth of ammo or less, and completely brick the weapon.

      People who make or sell 3d printed weapons still have to include a parts kit (or shopping list) with the stuff you can’t 3d print… with the exception of weapons that fire basically .22 or smaller cartidges, and those ones that actually are all 3d printed plastic are not going to survive very many shots.

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    More likely he had no real semblance of getting away with it and just happened to escape due to the incompetence of the NYPD.

    People who typically go through these plans are not the most mentally stable, he was probably expecting to be caught so he wrote his manifesto beforehand and thought he’d try to see how far he could get.

    Most of all, he probably did not expect the authorities fail to ID him, which is also why he made it for so long.

    Even the Mcdonalds employee might have reported him for other reasons like loitering or general sketchiness and not because they thought he was the shooter.

    Still I think it’s funny how he inadvertently proved the ease of crime with pretty basic rules. Any sort of organized crime, especially one off jobs could probably do it even more discretely and get away with it.

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      Except that manifesto sounds fake AF bootlicking cops in the first sentence? he more than likely dead man switched the one on pepmangione dot com slash manifesto

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        Have you read up on him at all? Luigi came from a wealthy heavily Republican family and was just starting to question right-wing ideology. Having respect for the feds is absolutely in line with the person described in this article.

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          You mean the people who believe the official conspiracy story, sold to us by the Cheney gang? You know, the one that literally defies the laws of physics?

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            Its no use, he probably thinks wtc building number seven collapsed demolition style because the shockwave from the planes hitting the twin towers caused a ripple effect and a butferfly flapped its wings in Indonesia so there was definitely no fowl play on behalf of our extremely trustworthy societal institutions “. 🥴😴🤡

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      The news interviewed the employee, and apparently he wasn’t aware that was actually the real luigi right there. He was trying to waste the police’s time on a lookalike

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    to be clear on the “3d printed guns explode after 3 shots” thing.

    It depends. If it’s 100% 3d printed parts, including bolt/slide and barrel, then yah, a few shots is the most you’d get out of it.

    But most “3d printed guns” are using off the shelf barrels and bolts/slides, parts that are usually not registered and tracked. The parts that are register and tracked are usually the parts that hold trigger assemblies and grips, things that can be made of plastic since they’re not directly handling the stress of firing.

    So the fact that the gun (the suspect was arrested with) is intact doesn’t mean it was never used. It also doesn’t mean it was definitely the gun used.

    The situation still seems weird, but, we’ll see what the different parties have to say on the matter when they go to trial.

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    somehow the cops just know from grainy 140p footage

    was miraculously not shattered into pieces, which happens to all other 3d printed guns.

    the very well-built gun has a particular reload quirk that was seen in the surveillance footage

    the doubt about not disposing the gun is a fair point. i suppose he either wanted to seed doubt to the prosecution (as someone else claimed below), or just forgot to plan this part

    would naturally spend a long period of time sitting in a public place

    fair point, but i think he simply settled into routine. this is corroborated by him being “visibly shaken” and not−well-prepared to someone asking him about the murder

    including the additional time it would take for the cops to respond and then arrive

    he obviously did not know someone tipped him off

    a random McDonald s worker

    slight correction: a fellow customer told the worker. if the concern here is that he would hide his face to the worker, well he may have dropped his guard after going back to his seat

  • Aatube
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    lost a couple inches in height, changed skin colour

    their new yet slightly different face

    tf you mean

  • @[email protected]
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    What does everyone think they do with all their biometric and Face ID data? Throw a shitty algorithm against this data cross referencing a pic from a grainy security feed and in this post truth era, 100% of crimes are now solvable.