Summary

Elon Musk has called homelessness a “lie” and “propaganda,” claiming advocacy groups profit from maintaining high homelessness rates.

Partnering with Donald Trump, Musk is pushing for drastic federal budget cuts targeting programs for vulnerable populations, including food stamps and healthcare.

Trump’s plan includes forcing unhoused individuals into treatment or institutionalization.

Critics argue these approaches criminalize homelessness while ignoring root causes like lack of affordable housing.

Homelessness in the U.S. has reached record levels, with 650,000 people affected in 2023, prompting calls for evidence-based solutions over punitive measures.

  • @asteriskeverything@lemmy.world
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    727 months ago

    “What you actually have are violent drug zombies with dead eyes, and needles and human feces on the street.”

    Yo this is the most cartoonish out-of-touch shit take I’ve see. In an election that accused a disenfranchised minority group of eating people’s pets!

      • @LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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        It’s also interesting to think about the level of artificial unemployment. In theory everyone could work… and a lot less hours, and we would have no scarcity.

        We would never do it but I have a theory that we could set aside 20T (less than 1 year of GDP) and it would be enough money to build everyone in the U.S. a house and provide free housing for everyone in America, without ever touching the initial investment, and setting aside 3% to assure if we keep inflation below 3% a year if would cover housing indefinitely. That’s based off the 2.5 people per household average, and building a new house every 30 years at a base price of $250,000. Which at mass production, would be the equivalent of a much more costly house. Could repurpose what we have to house people until everyone got moved in over a generation.

        What that does is free up ~$1400-$1900 dollars a month for the average household, and instead of having to stash money in savings over the worries of losing a job and becoming homeless (which stunts the economy), it incentivises people to go eat at a restaurant more often, have a kid they were worried about having, buy nicer things. All of which is spending money and boosting the economy. More kids… Less/near 0 homeless… and booming economy that will offset the original investment. Stress levels down, happiness levels up… which should also mean health issues should decrease.

        Who knows…

        (That’s over 2T a year being added back into the economy, also we don’t have to build all new, refurbish/keep older homes that people want works as well, figure out solutions that have less impact on the environment, and can plan more walkable, heathier towns when building them)

        • @in4aPenny@lemmy.world
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          17 months ago

          Very nice idea, but that’s assuming the 1% give a fuck about helping people and not having an army of slaves to make everything they want. Why does money have to be involved in feeding or housing human beings?

        • @Pieisawesome@lemmy.world
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          27 months ago

          GDP is not taxed revenue or availability of funds.

          Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is the monetary value of all finished goods and services produced within a country during a specific period. (I used gen AI for this paragraph).

          According to the CBO, they expect to collect $4.864 trillion in taxes in 2025 (source: https://www.cbo.gov/topics/taxes ).

          Unless you are going to forcibly steal assets from companies (which would lead to amass exodus from the US economy and cause a massive depression) you’d never get 20 trillion.

          This idea is a nice thought, but impossible and not how the economy works.

  • Nougat
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    Is there going to be room in the detention camps for the homeless?

    • @SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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      107 months ago

      It’s so easy to imagine camps where they implant the homeless with a neuralink chip, dress them up in an Optimus suit and put them to work in a mega factory.

          • @HeyJoe@lemmy.world
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            I loved that movie growing up. Idk if you saw the one I mentioned, but it really has almost everything you talked about in it. Not Optimus suit so much, but the rest.

    • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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      727 months ago

      Instead of Jews, it’s Hispanics. Instead of gypsies, it’s the homeless. And instead of trans people…well that one is the same.

          • skulblaka
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            107 months ago

            But we do have people who can be accused of being Roma, followed by an explanation of why that is somehow bad.

            Objective truth no longer has a horse in this race.

            • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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              77 months ago

              Yeah but I don’t think most people in the US know what that is. It wouldn’t be useful to them. If they wanted to demonize someone, they’d call them addicts or illegal immigrants or something.

          • sepi
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            37 months ago

            Bro america has Travelers. They are Roma people. You didn’t know this?

      • @perestroika@lemm.ee
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        That would actually be one of reasonable choices. Most e-cars today are over-engineered and too complex for the users’ good, but Leaf has been on the market for very long, has gone though many generations and repair shops generally know their way around it (even I have taken apart a Leaf’s battery). If Nissan’s engineers aren’t fools, they have solved most issues.

        Tesla is a smartphone on wheels, and a maintenance nightmare. Also, it has the highest rate of fatal accidents in its category. Even if it didn’t earn Elon a penny, I’d not recommend it.

    • @Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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      27 months ago

      Someone should tell him that we know more about the mountain and canyons of Mars than we do about the depths of the ocean… and tell him that carbon fiber actually IS the best material for a submarine… and tell him that the best shipwrecks to go to are WW1 military shipwrecks…

    • If these people really think that all it takes to get wealthy is hard work then they have the chance soon to prove it by going to Mars starting from scratch and see whether they can get themselves wealthy again through hard work. If they don’t I guess they don’t deserve these riches anyways.

    • subiaco
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      47 months ago

      He will be fine but others less fortunate will suffer.

  • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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    137 months ago

    Trump’s plan includes forcing unhoused individuals into treatment or institutionalization.

    The good old Victorian approach

    • subiaco
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      67 months ago

      Sounds about right. Someone has to make a buck off of them. Just like our incarcerated people.

  • @M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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    87 months ago

    Ah yes, it is a “life style” choice and all that jazz… Not at all the inevitable result of decades plus of poor governance/systemic failures.