President-elect Donald Trump on Friday confirmed that Republicans will work together to ditch Daylight Saving Time, the practice of changing the clocks by an hour twice a year.
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I’m fine with that, but I think we should settle on Daylight Savings time. You know, when time is an hour ahead of what it is now.
Standard time is the WORST. My political party might be permanent Daylight Savings Time
If we had year-round DST, the sun wouldn’t rise until after 8 AM in the winter.
At least it wouldn’t set before I leave work !
I wake up at 6:45-7 most days and it’s not like it’s bright then either. I would MUCH prefer an hour more of daylight after I get off work
And yet the happiest countries in the world spend most of the day in winter in darkness, some completely.
Though to be fair most of that has to do with how the governments tend to be more socialist.
That’s just being happy despite the darkness. Without it it would probably be better.
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First country from that happeness list on the suicide rankings is Finland and that’s #38, behind the US that’s at #31.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
I live in the PNW, USA. It’s dark when I get to work and when I get home. I’d rather have light at the end of my day. Winter/standard time is terrible.
That’s totally fine.
I ink it really depends, to be honest.
I know I get a bit grim with winter reducing activities. What is impossible to tease out is just how much of this is weather changing with time zone.
I ink what matters most is the population centres and how they’re affected - my thinking is if most of the population is grouped in places that benefit from being ‘more livable’ because they’re not as dark and damp through ones daily experiences, then it’d be worth keeping.
I live in NZ and think itd be great here, but we’re quite far from the equator, so get a lot of dawn and dusk (I feel like it would have a big affect here, and in my perspective, it would be broadly positive for _most folks _). It’s shocking how much of an improvement DST makes in just the basic liveability - by the weather has generally been subtly improving for a few weeks as well, which completely waters down my argument
If DST wasn’t a thing, it would still not get dark in the summer time until after 9PM for me. I’d rather stay on permanent DST because winter is absolutely miserable when it’s dark until mid-late morning, dreary, rainy, and overcast all “day”, and then dark again by mid-afternoon.
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Right after lowering grocery prices.
Good.
The extra hour of sunshine cannot be good for global temperatures.
I’m assuming you’re joking, but I’m also assuming some morons actually believe this.
Every hour of sunlight brings 173,000 terrawatt hours of total solar irradiance. Even one hour is enough to make a big difference.
How is anyone taking this seriously
How are you taking this seriously?
I’m taking this fine. And I told you, don’t call me Serious Lee.
My dude had several down votes when i posted
Those clocks are mighty powerful.
btw that’s 6.228 * 1017J for non-Americans
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Extra hour of sunlight for golf no doubt.
As you age time appears to pass faster.
In your late 70s, six months flies by, so older people tend to hate daylight savings time, because they feel.like they’re constantly changing their clocks.
It’s why Biden was such a bad president, the last four years flew by and he probably barely realized it.
It’s why the entire time he kept saying “we need to figure out what’s going on first”.
At that age you just can’t keep up with a normal day to day, let alone be the fucking president of America.
trump obviously will (and has) had the same issue, it’s just when Trump doesn’t get his shit done, it’s almost always a positive for the country.
Not that I can tell yet, but i heard that the peak of time passing is around 45-50 years old. Also, things like this apply a lot more to people who do the same routines day in and day out. Someone like Trump probably sees it a bit less due to always having a different day most days. Although, at the same time, how many days did he golf or just vacation on his last term?
Whatever his reason, it’s gonna be stupid.
But unironically, there’s a lot of good reasons to just go with one time or the other.
So it’s weird to keep seeing headlines about it
Media is desperate to get people to arguing over shit that doesn’t really matter along party lines.
They’re still shitting their pants over 99% of the country uniting behind Luigi. They want us to talk about anything except the shit that effects billionaires negatively
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but i heard that the peak of time passing is around 45-50 years old.
I kind of just glossed over that. But it’s completely incorrect btw …
That would be permanent Daylight Savings, not eliminating it.
Though I’m not sure he or many others know the difference.I would be prepared to take either one at this point
Whatever gets the clocks fixed.
Half the people cheering the elimination of DST actually want permanent DST. Can’t wait for this to go through, morons will get what they asked for instead of what they wanted. Theyre going to spend the extra hour of sun asleep in their beds.
As someone who mourns the 24hrs open world that covid killed, I don’t care what the sky looks like, I’m just sick of my circadian rhythm being thrown off every few months because some fuck couldn’t be bothered to use a lamp and decided it needed to be everyone else’s problem.
You realize the circadian rhythm of humans is massively influenced by the sun right? It’s not just not using lamps, the light of the sun literally activates hormones that tell you it’s time to get up and lack of sunlight makes hormones tell you it’s time to sleep.
Yes, I also understand that the sun rising and setting doesn’t stop me from going about my day. Daylight savings doesn’t take away the sun, it just let’s my boss demand I change what time I wake up by an hour.
So it’s not about your circadian rhythm anymore its about fighting it and doing your things no matter what the sun is doing? Most humans still need light to regulate their sleep, emotions, hair growth, and literal bone density. I’m glad your special but pretending like it’s just people who don’t want to use lamps is the worst comparison I think ive ever seen on the subject.
I don’t give a crap if the clocks stay forward or stay back, as long as they stay put.
Take off your watch then, you’re the one carrying it around.
Finally something I can support
I’d rather be on savings time year round but yeah, the switch is the worst.
Good news for you: that’s what he’s likely planning (if he implements the 2022 Senate bill as-is).
Bad news for kids: that means they have to walk to school in the dark with sleep-deprived people operating heavy machinery in their vicinity for a bigger portion of the year.
“Won’t someone think of the children?”
There’s a pretty major difference between a moral panic and pointing out that something is going to decrease safety. Most notably, those moral panics are often opposed to things that actually do make kids safer.
Changing the clocks is already associated with an increase in fatal traffic accidents. If you’re concerned about safety then let’s stop changing the clocks.
Fully agree! But let’s not change them in a direction that also has known safety hazards.
Just trying to distract the public from any number of his fucked up shit
I wonder how long until some special interest group like airlines come along and bribe him to change his mind, because it would be expensive for them to update their systems
Such news!!! Such distraction!!! Make daylight great again!!!
Notice it passed the Senate in 2022, so Democrats supported it… And it hasn’t gotten through the House, meaning Johnson and the Republicans in the house for some reason Don’t agree with the unanimous vote of Republicans in the Senate. Unless… They do agree, and have been intentionally not doing anything for 4 years again. 🤔
They are all the same people.
? You can’t hold a seat in Congress and the Senate… So they are explicitly different people.
The parties. They are the same. They are the SAME PEOPLE in what I’m saying.
So you think Mitch McConnell and Bernie Sanders are the same person?
Or is it just a blanket statement that you shouldn’t read into?
Lmfao, we all know Bernie is the exception
The Sunlight Protection Act has been put up several times and passed by the Senate as recently as 2022. It sits in a committee at this time. I’m sure trump will take credit if it works its way through.
Why hasn’t it passed the house if Republicans supported it in the Senate? Strange
Not certain if it’s the same one, but a while ago such a bill was on the docket until they literally forgot about it. Like, they all supported it, but no one brought it up so they didn’t vote on it.
They’ve got more pressing issues to deal with. Trans people aren’t going to ban themselves from bathrooms.
Currently over 19,000 bills before Congress… Which ones get heard unfortunately is always manipulated.
Well I hope it does make it through, despite bronzer boy taking credit for it.
Honestly I don’t care who takes credit, just get it done already
Everyone can agree that changing the clocks is annoying, but having either of the two times for the full year is kind of shitty, too.
Great, do timezones next!
What the fuck is wrong with timezones?
Id prefer this to but many are against it. To me a number is a number, if I say it’s 8 o’clock then it should be 8 o’clock. Not 8am eastern, 7am central, 5am Pacific… (yes we always ignore mountain time).
If I drive 15 mins east the clocks shouldn’t jump. States like Florida have 2 time zones within them.
What time is the meeting at? 12, fucking 12, I don’t care if you are working from Japan today, it’s at 12.
Now for the fun part. It’s 13, not 1 again. What time is mass at? 12. I don’t want to specify it is midnight mass 12, it’s fucking 12, 1 of them.
Then there are no mistakes to be made.
I have to cross the timezone in Florida often for work, and it gets hella confusing when I need to tell Medicaid I saw one client 11-12 in the eastern time zone, and another at 11:15-12:15 in the central time zone, and my EMR system automatically uses my device’s time zone, but I’m completing both billing notes in the time zone I don’t live in
What times the game on? Depends on the who’s house we are watching it at. Lol
But the time indicates your relative position in the Earth’s rotation. The number 13 in reference to the rotational cycle means the sun in the sky is a particular number of degrees away from your position on the earth and it only that particular value in that one geographic slice of the planet. You can personally choose to use UTC/GMT for yourself if that’s what you want to do, and meeting invites you send and receive will all correct accordingly for the configured time zone.
That holds true outside of the fact that it changes daily due to our axis orbit and our position on earth. If we actually went by it, our clocks would have to change constantly as well. So if we are going to ignore it by not changing the clocks, why wouldn’t we just ignore it all together. We are okay with saying the sun sets at 4:30… Or 7:30… Or maybe it only sets for 2 hours a night if you are north/south enough… So why bother trying to coorelate that?
Time zones weren’t established to adjust for north/south variances, they’re for east/west. And we don’t adjust the clocks to make sunrise and sunset fall on consistent time of day throughout the year. They’re so that we can reliably account for what the local time is somewhere other than where we are (in the USA they were created for cross-continental railroads to publish train schedules). We already have GMT/UTC and every other time zone is defined relative to that, so why don’t you just personally use that in all your own devices and communications already? Nothing but you can prevent you from doing so.
Your last comment said it does adjust for the sun, now this one says it doesn’t.
Your argument is “But I don’t like change, so I don’t want to change to having no changes”
Why don’t I just use a system the rest of U.S. doesn’t use? Because when I turn on the TV, pick up a paper, or sit down at computer, it will always be different.
What kind of thought process is that. Instead we’ll drive south-east and wind up with the time going backwards, north-west and the time going forward and everyone will wonder what braindead fool couldn’t draw a vertical line. And then remember, it’s because a lot of people thought it was a terrible idea from the start, so many states/countries bent those lines.
Id call it a sunk cost.
No, my argument is that time zones are a formalization of what we observe in physical reality: that different parts of the planet are experience a different phase of the Earth’s rotation through direct sunlight in at any given moment. They can’t ever be perfect, so we all have to agree to a best approximation, and some communities decide for themselves that they don’t want to have a a dividing line through the middle of their city, and that’s fine because the whole system is meant for co-ordinating over long distances.
That’s nice for people with low UTC offsets, but will be incredibly confusing for most of the Earth’s population who are closer to the date line. Imagine it being Tuesday in the morning and Wednesday in the afternoon!
Now, 24h time I’m 100% in favor of. AM/PM can fuck right off.
Broken clock.
Except that the Dems tried to do this recently and the Republicans wouldn’t come to the table, but as soon as they are in: “oh hey guys, check out our great policy you all love”.
Just saw this comment after posting saying it better than i: https://lemmy.world/comment/13969026
Broken record.
A broken clock can be right three times a day, if it breaks between 2AM and 3AM on the day of the DST change…
Or more often, if it runs backwards. Far less often if it runs fast or slow.
what if the clock runs several times too fast?
If it runs fast enough, it can be correct every minute.
