No … and stop following anything that stupid website says.
Fuck Reddit.
sharing information is important. whether or not you are glorifying it depends on context.
Yeah they keep calling him radicalized. I just keep thinking this is a normal reaction and that corporate America and its shills are the radical ones.
“Would you shoot literal hitler in the back?” “Fuck yeah, bud” “Who radicalized you, everything that man did was legal”
Hey, hey, let’s not bring the H man into this. It’s not like the US is rounding up immigrants into concentration camps and making them work to pay off their deportation fees so that the US can have its slave labor without being dependent on China because we are at war over Taiwan……
I didn’t bring Hitler into this. “Literal Hitler” is an analogy, a character, not the real thing.
I’m making a joke
ah yes, i clearly noticed.
I’ve read the manifesto. I have the same thoughts as you. I wonder with all these people calling him radical if maybe there’s a fake manifesto out there. Something created JUST to make him sound crazy? That would explain the wildly different views of him being radical.
Remember, one month ago, the shooting hadn’t happened yet. Nobody knew Luigis name or face. So if you go from not knowing he exists, to seeing him murder a guy, and then get told he has plans for domination, and kill all the people…it would be logical to understand why someone would call that perspective radicalized.
That’s not what he is, or what he wrote, but if you read a fake manifesto, believed it to be real, that would explain people saying that.
Otherwise, I’m confused where “radicalized” comes from.
People don’t read the manifesto, just the headlines calling him radicalised.
The media attempting to paint a narrative. Consent manufacturering machine go brrr.
At first there were a lot of things floating around with people claiming to somehow have gotta access. Lot of sick fucks out there want to push an agenda.
Sadly reasonable conclusions based on reality is pretty based.
Read that in his voice, well done.
Oh no, reality is leaking into the media! We must stop this unapproved narrative!
No. It’s just Reddit’s thought police.
Reddit gargles fascist schlong.
Nuff said.
I think federal government probably sent a pretty please over to reddit HQ to censor this.
They’re afraid of it fomenting further dissent. It’s a delicate situation when the plebs are upset. A little bit is OK, in fact preferable. But too much can lead to a chain reaction that cannot be controlled.
note that reddit didn’t have a problem with “orks must die jokes” or people celebrating war fotage as long as they celebrate the right peoples deaths
Drone kill footage is like the reciepts of investment, if not the product itself.
No, it’s not.
It’s an acknowledgement that there’s a massive problem.
These companies are literally willing to bankrupt you to death. Their behavior is inexcusable. They profiteer off of human suffering.
We live in a country founded by people who were unhappy with the status quo and were willing to pick up a gun to change things. We shouldn’t act surprised that it still happens. I don’t think we should celebrate it, because it’s sad that this is happening in the first place, that someone feels they need to do this. This problem is solvable, and it can be solved civilly, or it will be solved uncivilly.
We’re are explicitly given the right to bear arms as a check to tyrannical governance.
Our government outsourced their tyranny to corporations.
Corporations should be well aware of strings being attached.
Thats exactly how I feel “Its sad that this is looking like the solution”
Like, it had to come to this? You couldnt just set up your little racket and keep the golden goose fat and happy? Or atleast adequately provided for and left alone?
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Agreed! Sad that all the debt and death these companies allow is ignored in these discussions.
I mean, lots of .world communities will censor it too, and they’re still FEDerated.
I literally found my way here because of lemmy.world bullshit. No, discussing jury nullification isn’t inciting to violence.
A mod said that the manifesto would be allowed
If it’s confirmed, I don’t see why not. Depends on the community, of course. I’m sure !lemmybewholesome would remove it.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13922763
People can try. If it gets removed, report it on [email protected]
A mod said that the manifesto would be allowed
If it’s confirmed, I don’t see why not. Depends on the community, of course. I’m sure !lemmybewholesome would remove it.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13922763
People can try. If it gets removed, report it on [email protected]
does it seem a little…wordy… to anyone else
No.
Are you sure? Your position that it’s not wordy to anyone else can be defeated by even a single person whose position agrees with mine. It’s indefensible. If you want you can wait to see your position defeated publicly, or quietly accept defeat. Let me know what you pick (silence is an answer :) and I’ll be sure to celebrate appropriately. Have a day.
Sounds like a fun Sunday.
So far, I have not seen anyone other than you express this position in any discussion of this document. You have not demonstrated that there are others who agree with you.
Based on this I am satisfied with my position.
It’s pretty concise, actually.
It’s not.
Okay I’ll bite
What is the point you’re trying to make
I think it’s like 262 words or something.
Can you name a single “manifesto” that’s more precise?
Also for what it’s worth communism has been tried at a social experiment in several countries.
It’s always led to brutal trampling of human rights in those respective countries at the time of the communist regime
Care to comment on that?
How are you measuring precision? And what qualifies as a manifesto? If you tell me your metrics I’ll provide appropriate debate material.
You’re the one making the assertion that it’s wordy. The onus is on you to try and qualify that.
It’s not, really. Have a day.👋
Especially as far as manifestos from high profile cases go.
While I am certain you can cite lengthy manifestos from other killers and I applaud your work, it won’t be necessary. The length of those works is irrelevant.
That’s what reddit banned, it’s so innocuous.
It’s pretty shitty as far as manifestos go.
4/5 stars.
I mean, he claims responsibility, confirmed the existing evidence, then states his motives which aren’t hard to understand for even those out of the loop. I think the brevity and simple reasoning speak volumes louder than some maniacs scribblings found in a cabin. The fact that even those considered Semliterate would be able to grasp the bulk of his message was likely intentional.
Its actually not shitty at all, presuming his purpose was to inspire a shift in public discourse around the topic.
If he wanted it to be the centerpiece of a dramatic documentary miniseries, then yes, it was shitty.
I appreciate how quick a read is it. Much more likely for random people to read it and start thinking and then you can jump out of the bushes and go “surprise, you just read a manifesto!”
You agreed with a murderer, now what?
They didn’t ban it because it was dangerous or violent, They banned it because the anti-corporate and spez is a musk wanna be
Thiel is one of reddits earliest investors. spez is a Thiel boy.
This whole time I can’t believe how reddit managed to hold up a facade of being a cool progressive college student platform. They pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes. It’s as if they put lipstick on /pol/ and /b/. And everyone was like, alright a hip liberal platform. Sure if you ignore the iceberg of right wing bootlicking shit beneath the surface of the default subreddits.
barbara streissand has taught them nothing apparently
There are like 50 sentences of basic reality in there, but I suspect that a lot of the moderation challenge comes from one small phrase dropped into the middle: “it had to be done.”
With the inclusion of that, the 50 sentences of reality are recast as not just true but a valid justification for murder, even an argument that it was a duty, and that’s the rub.
In this case, I think of more like Guy Fawkes……there is clearly a problem with the us death care system. And we are right to be angry with these companies that profiteer on our sickness and in some cases that result in people dying from delayed or denied care. Is is right to murder someone? No, of course not. I think the question to ask is who is the real murderer?
I’ve always thought well educated people have a great potential to be dangerous and achieve transcendental goals if organized. A group of engineers, of chemists, physicists, biologists, computer scientists after specific goals may be formidable enemies if they wanted. The 0.001%, the dirty rich, should now be aware.
I think I saw a report many years past that engineers make a bigger than expected proportion of radicalized people, in the context of middle east insurgencies.
Engineers tend to be less accepting of the “debate and theory” part of science and more of the “analyze and act” part.
As in, the debate is stupid, the theory is that the rich have fucked us all, now let’s see what we can do immediately to make it work.
Constent manufacturing factory manufactures consent, millions shocked.
I learned about this from a System of a Down rabbit hole :)
There’s a book called Manufacturing Consent for those interested.
Noam Chomsky. If you studied anything related to linguistics or even dabbled into that field, you will know the name.
