Summary
Vivek Ramaswamy criticized American culture for prioritizing “normalcy” over excellence, which leads tech companies hiring foreign-born workers over Americans.
In a post on X, he argued that U.S. culture celebrates mediocrity and undervalues nerdiness, hard work, and academic achievement.
His comments sparked backlash across the political spectrum, with critics labeling him out of touch with American culture.
The controversy may jeopardize his standing in the Trump administration.
He’s not complaining about us being ba workers. He complaining the average Joe doesn’t treat their manager like a king like in Indian culture.
I worked for an Indian company once, I only made it 12 months before the harassment became too much.
Yep, that’s for sure the culture he wants. Obedience, but excellence.
Lolol yes do it, keep talking Vivek and Musk. Burn all your bridges to the actual elected GOP. Make yourselves and DOGE hated before it even begins.
Make sure all DOGE executives and agents must always fly on Boeing aircraft.
To fly others is UnAmerican, Communist, and Woke.
Let me spare you all some false hope: he wasn’t literally dragged.
Dang it
One day
But was he slammed, blasted, or ripped?
Not yet. All it takes is one hero
The controversy may jeopardize his standing in the Trump administration.
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Surprised Pikachu, if ackshually happens.
Lol first musk, now this guy. These techbro wranglers are about to discover what getting into bed with fascist nationalists really means.
In a post on X, he argued that U.S. culture celebrates mediocrity and undervalues nerdiness, hard work, and academic achievement.
I can’t really argue with that part.
I would say that here in the U.S. and Canada:
Mediocrity is less celebrated and more just that anyone with real skill will probably stand out as troublemaker at work because they’ll know that their bosses are wrong.
Hard work is definitely celebrated because morons can always work longer hours but they aren’t capable of understanding how to work smart. Then the very worst people, the braindead managers, come along and ignore every single piece of documentation showing how working long hours is both unnecessary these days and just straight-up unproductive.
Academic achievement is massively worshipped here. In fact it is one of the number one arguments dumbasses who were good at school but not at real work make when spouting their other garbage. See: so many engineers, lawyers, and even doctors.
So I’m really not sure why you believe that that statement is true.
Because that’s what management values.
I would; rich fucks like him destroying our education system for profit is the reason we don’t value academic achievement anymore.
How is mediocrity celebrated? Well, other than the existence of social media influencers.
Trump.
Never met a craftsman in my life who didn’t want to produce excellence.
The reason they don’t is because management at best doesn’t value it, and more often punishes it. This is you and your buddies fault Vivek Ramaswamy, you absolute shit for brains knob.
100%. The amount of times management has derailed a good design of mine for some garbage based on their limited technical understanding and priority of fast and cheap that costs more in the long run
I was about to say, you know what happened at every workplace I’ve ever been at when I did excellent work? I got more work piled onto me. I didn’t get a raise, I didn’t get a promotion or any recognition other than that excellent work being recognized as my new baseline.
Eventually, you just decide to stop caring too much and settle for mediocrity because it’s a hell of a lot easier than busting your ass for forty hours a week, so why bother doing that if you aren’t getting anything for actually doing good work?
Which is absolutely dumb because you gain a solid reputation for craftsmanship when you consistently make great pieces of work. This drives business up.
I mean yeah I guess management could skimp and cut costs, but if that results in an inferior product, your customers will definitely notice it, and perhaps take their business elsewhere.
I hate short-sighted business decisions, but they’re everywhere in modern life.
Isn’t this the same guy who said “weekends were a mistake”?
People like this have fully infiltrated the US tech sector, and have been kicking and screaming about how the workers there aren’t killing themselves for their jobs anymore. They have completely embraced classism and believe they are at the top of some imaginary tower or food chain that allows them to make idiotic statements like this. Anti-egalitarian at the core.
They’ve already stripped all the benefits of working in tech away from the workers, and are now complaining that the horse won’t pull the cart anymore now that the carrot is gone. Pieces of shit.
Isn’t this the same guy who “weekends were a mistake”?
No, that is Narayana Murthy, the billionaire founder of Infosys - a company that makes its money through indentured servitude by exploiting H1B visas.
Lol. Well that makes total sense. Guess they have similar mindsets then.
US businesses don’t hire foreign workers because they perform better than domestic workers. They do it because they pay less for slave labor. US slaves primarily work in domestic food production, initially as a way to reduce the cost of food, but that turned into corporate profit pretty quickly.
Now we’ve created a massive margin standard on foreign imports as well as domestic food production. The inevitable consequence is that correction would either result in a temporary but substantial domestic business profit loss, or employing more unpaid or underpaid domestic workers.
Take a guess which track the Republicans plan on taking while they begin to fill the detention centers.
And they hire H1Bs because they can’t quit or fired or they get deported.
lol
Hey he’s not a CEO but, y’know. Maybe we could make an exception.
I’d definitely say that Americans value hard work. To the point of their own detriment. I’d also say they often strive for excellence in product making, but it rarely comes out excellent. When comparing product quality between Europe and the US, Europe almost always comes out ahead. Plus, Europeans value a good balance between work and life. That’s true excellence in my book. The US seems to mostly survive on size and quantity rather than quality.
everyone talks of germany and japan as being efficient but its the US that the priority is efficiency. Thing is we don’t give a fuck about quality which is what allows for such great “efficiency”. What germany and japan were doing was maximizing efficiency while maintaining quality. We had a japanese shipping company bring some stuff for an NTT project. Truck came. Several guys. fully equipped. Got their lift gate going right away and zoom did that stuff get off the truck and right up to the rack and unboxed and man. just full service. incredibly fast and everything in very good condition. Compare that to the typical american shipping with just the one guy driving and unloading. They would often try to lie and say their liftgate was not working (they were worried about the few minutes it took and they had unreasonable schedules breathing down their necks). No handtrucks or belts or any other equipment. Once they got it onto the dock they are gone. So yeah the savings on improperly equiped trucks and only one guy is huge. Economically efficient. Meanwhile the japanese company with several guys and costly equipment is costing more, but they spend about the same amount of time and you get the equipment right to where it belongs and in perfect condition and your just happier about the whole experience. Efficiency while maintaining quality.
What exactly does “dragged” mean in the headline?
At first I thought women were dressing up like him and parading through the streets.
It means a few people on outlets like Xitter said some mean things about an asshole like this.
Like drag your name through the mud. It’s similar to how headlines use slam.
Ah, so like “You wouldn’t believe how Sally dragged Betsy when talking to Karen last weekend!”
In other words, an indicator of gossip, not news.
dragged 😒
Tbf, he’s probably saying a lot of this because he’s experiencing prejudice for being an outsider, kind of like Steve Bannon at Harvard syndrome. People like that just want to burn the world when they find out that conservatives really only favor an in-group of their own kind, and people like them will never truly belong.
That said, hard fucking lol. The only reason India gets so much support is because US wants to prop up a puppet in SE Asia. Indians also get ahead on political fronts in America because they’re currently the “safe minority” and not scary Chinese, Arabs or Latinos. He’s literally a DEI hire for white supremacists.
Also, America has most noble prizes than any country. But dumb cunts like him will never admit that the public education and progressive policies in America favored it a lot. All of these conservatives should FAFO, but their bad ideas will only make it worse for vulnerable people.
lol @ India gets so much support USA started pulling down restrictions around 2009, and even after that it’s been transactional arrangements, rather than support
Wait, Bannon felt like an outsider? That guy gives off such insider energy, but an insider that is aggrieved about very stupid things.
He got close to the bubble by acting the part.
As an anticap American, made so by our worship of greed and glut and sociopathic cruelty in the name of profit, I make it my mission at work to do as little as possible, and gum up the works at my greedy employer’s as much as possible without it looking like I am.
I’m doing my part to stifle GDP! Are you?
(In a non-captured oligarchal dictatorship, if you wanted worker buy in, remake the tax code to punish corporations and incentivize cooperatives. That can’t happen here, we’re too captured, but theoretically)
