Summary

Matthew Livelsberger, the suspect behind the Tesla Cybertruck explosion outside Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, was described as a “big” Trump supporter and a highly trained Green Beret with 19 years of military service.

Livelsberger, who died in the blast, rented the Cybertruck in Colorado and filled it with explosives, injuring seven.

Authorities are investigating the incident’s symbolism, speculating it may have been a political statement due to its location and links to Trump and Elon Musk.

No clear motive has been established.

  • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    267 months ago

    “He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American,”

    Yeah. Reading the rest of the article (not that I trust the press these days) his version of being an “American Patriot” is “fuck everyone I hate, they can burn” and he really wanted Trump to do that for him. President Musk getting in the way really pissed him off when he finally realized that Trump is just another spineless, vain, wealthy narcissist that DGAF about him.

  • Bilb!
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    67 months ago

    He wasn’t so big, I’m bigger than him

  • @perestroika@lemm.ee
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    Livelsberger, who died in the blast,

    Actually, it’s a bit more interesting. According to an article that the BBC published, he shot himself in the head while in the car. From his viewpoint, it seems that the blast was just a fancy after-effect.

    “Mr Livelsberger’s cause of death was suicide from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to the Clark County Coroner’s office.”

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      The odds are pretty much nonexistent. You don’t accidentally load up an electric vehicle with a bunch of gasoline and fireworks, park it in front of a building with the incoming president’s name, rig the flammable material to ignite, and finally shoot yourself before it ignites. Supposedly his wife just broke up with him after Christmas, so perhaps he was feeling extra hopeless and wanted to do something extreme to get everyone’s attention.

      • @atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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        I hadn’t seen the bit about the gunshot wound yet. Yeah, it likely wasn’t an accident.

        I was thinking maybe he was planning some fireworks event and some camping and accidentally set something off.

    • @Freefall@lemmy.world
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      117 months ago

      He was likely making a statement and wanted fire and noise more than demolition and death (granted he also probably didn’t care if some people around it got hurt). It’s pathetic.

        • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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          Turns out if you want to use a cybertruck as an explosive weapon you need to put it on its side due to the way the walls of the vehicle contain the explosion.

          Classic cybertruck-as-weapon noob mistake.

          “This side toward enemy”. Built so strong it directs the blast out the open face of the bed.

          • @negativeyoda@lemmy.world
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            I’m spitballing here, but it was just a bunch of fireworks used as the actual bomb, correct?

            I’m sure if they did the fertilizer/ OKC thing that it would have blown up a lot better instead of just catching on fire, but the stupid thing also probably doesn’t have good enough cargo capacity to carry enough accelerant

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        What did they blow up? Their own vehicle and a piece of the road? Some random bystanders? A few thousands of damage to the hotel maybe? I don’t know their goals, but I don’t think that’s successful if they wanted anything more than attention seeking. (edit: which honestly seems like it could be the goal, why else have fireworks instead of fertilizer?)

        Compare with the Oklahoma City bombing.

    • @BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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      17 months ago

      I think they tend to do more training and support of friendly local forces. May have been upset with the Afghan war exit, I don’t think it would have gone well for people he may have had contact with.

  • @recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee
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    417 months ago

    ‘big’ Trump supporter

    I mean… let’s be honest here, he did drive 12 hours through the night to serve Trump some freshly barbecued pig.

    You don’t cater like that unless you’re a truly big fan.

  • Sixty
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    127 months ago

    It’s not terrorism if they’re MAGA as I understand.

  • @aggelalex@lemmy.world
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    Symbolism? There’s no well thought out and clear symbol. It’s just an asshole who thinks going up in flames “sends a message (jokerMewing.jpg)”. A well thought out symbol is more like Luigi Mangione’s Deny Defend Depose.

    This guy was promised a good life for the simple man by the republicans and he was repeatedly backstabbed, and that made him angry. Yet he stayed with them till the end at which point he couldn’t imagine himself not being the MAGA Rambo wannabe he thought himself to be. That’s what angry and dumb people do.

  • @Corigan@lemm.ee
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    107 months ago

    Sooooo won’t be investigated as terrorism got it… Sigh this country is so corrupt it’s not funny

  • Zier
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    277 months ago

    More proof that magas are just violent psychopaths. Open more insane asylums!

  • Phoenixz
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    517 months ago

    Man, ex- trump fans really really want trump dead

    Wonder why…

      • @lilcs420@lemm.ee
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        167 months ago

        Where have you seen calls for violence against trump. People don’t like him but I haven’t seen anything. Do you have any articles or proof?

        • @Freefall@lemmy.world
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          If you watch far more right-winger media and insulate yourself from reality, you will see it everywhere.

          EDIT: “He was stationed in Germany, but was back stateside on approved leave.” Ah, that tells me he was still active, or I am at least comfortable assuming that is the case. Still, a good call on the 19 years. That woulda been super sus.

      • Bakkoda
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        Remember when people burned effigies of Obama when he got elected? Pastors around the country hung dark colored dummies with nooses? Do you remember that?

        Nah you don’t otherwise you wouldn’t have made up evidence to try and support your claim.

        EDIT: I misspoke, you didnt even attempt to provide evidence, just a baseless claim.

  • @FirstCircle@lemmy.ml
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    257 months ago

    One thing I’m finding interesting: we’ve got the NO attack and this Trump/CT attack, happening in close temporal proximity and both hurting/killing innocents, but I’m only seeing the former labelled by the media as a “terrorist” attack. Could it, maybe, possibly, have something to do with the NO attacker potentially having an Islamic background? In contrast, a US military member, and a Trump supporter in particular, could never be awarded the “terrorist” badge by the press, “bomber” is the most he could hope to earn it seems.

    • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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      47 months ago

      The media did at least have the common decency to wait until they found out the New Orleans attacker was brown before branding him a terrorist.

      Got to be careful these days with so many far right lunatics on the loose.

    • @Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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      47 months ago

      No, it’s because these Tesla vehicles are so shitty, no one can be truly 100% sure if it was intentional, or the battery just ignited some fireworks in the backseat of some idiot’s truck.

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        77 months ago

        We have known for 23 hours that it was definitely not a battery fire. Everyone who knew anything about battery fires knew it wasn’t a battery fire from the very first videos

        Have you been asleep for a couple of days?

        • @Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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          Not every media outlet is as timely with getting the latest version of events out. I’m not sitting glued to my screen following this story live, like you are. My bad.

          • @psud@aussie.zone
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            17 months ago

            I get notifications for popular news developments, also I might be in a better timezone than you for hearing need from America quickly

      • @FirstCircle@lemmy.ml
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        107 months ago

        Right, but I wasn’t claiming that he wasn’t seeking to spread terror for his cause, assuming that these are the facts. I’m remarking on the fact that the “big” Trump supporter and a highly trained Green Beret wasn’t immediately branded a terrorist by the media just like the NO guy was, despite committing an act that was, as far as I can tell, an act of terrorism. Is it only “terrorism” if you’re motivated by some kind of religious belief, and specifically, some kind of Islamic group’s belief?

        • chingadera
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          More likely but not mandatory. They recently took their masks off and revealed it’s really about fucking with the money.