Looks like a photoshop, not a real sticker. Not a lot of pixels, but it doesn’t curve right, reflect or warp with the window. Squared up with tbe image orientation, not the window or defroster lines like a human would apply a sticker.
Everyone grabbing pitchforks all the same.
Just because it’s a render doesn’t mean it’s fake. It’s probably a preview used at a decal store and it was grabbed from there. Here’s an example. I’m only linking to prove what I’m saying. I don’t want anyone to actually buy one.
Doesn’t make it real. You can render whatever example you want for custom stickers just like a meme. It’s mashing the “easy” button in lieu of a photoshop. Someone made this as ragebait, and it should be treated as such. By your measure I could say I might print a meme as a sticker and now it’s “real” even if I don’t print it.
I’ve seen worse out in the wild. I absolutely know the types of people who would put this on their cars and think it’s clever.
Sure. It could be real if someone printed it. But like I said, that means every printable image ever falls into the same category. It’s a waste of time to think about that. There are gonna be people that either really think what this says or simply slap it on a car to piss people off.
That’s a different rabbit hole. The subject at hand is a render (by default a render isn’t real, right?) designed to be ragebait. Looks like it’s pretty effective considering how many people want it to be real so they can be outraged.
The moderator username is implying that it’s a subreddit that is for marketing cringe stickers to suckers
Appropriate. Seems to be effective.
That’s not the point. The OP straight up advocates maiming or killing people in a known Terrorist TTP. But the guy who talks about a window gets banned.
Yeah. I get the point.
My point is that it’s fake and made up to incite strong emotions.
You’re being trolled. Effectively. This is straight up ragebait. This should be thrown in the trash and mocked for what it is.
You think the entire thread is faked?
That’s not what I said at all.
Then how is this rage bait?
Really?
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it’s real… links have been provided to the reddit post lol
it’s clearly an image advocating murder and mods deleting comments advocating vandalism while leaving the murder ones up
whether the image posted to reddit is a photoshop is irrelevant. the issue is which violence the mods chose to promote and which to ban
So your argument is that it’s real because it was posted to reddit and you don’t care if it was a photoshop?
what are you missing about this… the point of interest is WHAT HAPPENED ON REDDIT. which you can see with your own eyes. the important part is 100% guaranteed verifiably NOT a photoshop
tell me, just so we can get on the same page: what do you think is interesting about this image? why do you think most people upvoted it on Lemmy? we definitely have a misunderstanding here.
100% guaranteed verifiably NOT a photoshop
Verify it, then. Your claim, not mine.
This plainly looks like a fake. I’ve already explained why.
you must be trolling. I’m genuinely not doing a “gotcha” here. I just need to know, please answer the question: why do you think this post is popular on lemmy? what do you think people find interesting about it?
I think you really are misunderstanding here. I tried explaining it in my terms but maybe if you tell me what you think is happening we can sort this out
or maybe you’re just trolling, in which case… well done, you really are doing a great job at pretending you’re an absolute fucking moron. ugh sorry I’m really trying to be polite here but you’re not making it easy
me when my unpaid full time job is to virtue signal on a bumper sticker sub reddit
Fuckcars was a reasonable community in the beginning but once karma farming started it went 0 tolerance quick. It’s like some militant vegan energy vampire mod saw the potential and took it. Now it’s some matrix situation where they feed off a constant flow of rage.
Reddit and mostly all “social” media only care about engagement. Psychologists have found out that negative information has a significantly higher chance of user engagement to respond (comment, share) than positive information
It’s why ragebait is so effective and why it’s everywhere (even Lemmy and BlueSky,)
Yeah, you seem totally different
They’re dunking on the mod for saying smashing a window = violence
Another reason to stay out of the usa. Not just anecdotal, we’re talking about a country where walking on a public street can be illegal, and people who do are sometimes called a slur.
Because cities aren’t for people to live in, they’re for cars to drive trough
do you think redneck is a slur too?
how about dork?
What would your mom think?
Walking on a street can be illegal? How? Can you expand a bit on that, please?
There are jaywalking laws where you can be stopped for crossing against the light, against the right of way in general, etc. Not sure what the slur is. I think Jay used to be a mild insult?
I saw a cartoon on here once with an out-of-towner complaining about all the horse-carriages in this “Jay town” but I can’t find it.
I saw a cartoon on here once with an out-of-towner complaining about all the horse-carriages in this “Jay town” but I can’t find it.
Good ol’ Everett True https://lemmy.today/post/18753176
Jay used to mean country folk. Jaywalking was walking on city roads like it was the country, because city roads are for cars where country roads had little, horse powered, transport
“Jay” is an old English slur. “Jaywalking” refers to walking on a public street illegally. For highways, it makes sense that you’re not supposed to walk there. But in America this “jaywalking” can even apply to city streets.
If you’re not in America, then it might just sound ridiculous. That’s because it is
Has anyone actually been charged with jaywalking in the past 50 years tho? I’ve never heard of anyone giving a shit in any town or city I’ve been to in the US
That’s someone being shot for being black. Were there no jaywalking law, the cops would have found another excuse
Nice bullshit headline that implies the cops are just so racist (gotta be sure they mention the jaywalker’s race, right?) that they saw a black guy jaywalking and just decided to gun him down for it. Meanwhile, from a better article:
At some point during the struggle, Reinhold grabbed hold of Israel’s gun in its holster. Duran shot Reinhold twice after he continued to resist arrest and kept his grip on the gun, prosecutors said.
The deputies gave voluntary statements to investigators that were corroborated by surveillance video, witnesses and forensic evidence, the letter said.
Gee, not so cut and dry after all, huh?
“Watch this, he’s going to jaywalk,” one of the cops says as they pull up to Reinhold.
The other responds, “Don’t make case law.”
Yes, it is cut and dry that they were planning on doing something horrible and using the jaywalking as an excuse to start the encounter.
I see you deleted your other bootlicking comment and replaced it with this one. Feel free to keep trying, bootlicker.
Yes, it is cut and dry that they were planning on doing something horrible and using the jaywalking as an excuse to start the encounter.
Yeah, let’s just ignore that he refused to simply go back to the sidewalk when directed to, that he physically resisted being led back to the sidewalk, and that he then went for the cop’s gun, and that he wasn’t shot until he did that.
Just ignore all that, make your assumptions, and call me a bootlicker if it makes you feel better. Doesn’t change the facts.
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“Watch this, he’s going to jaywalk,” one of the cops says as they pull up to Reinhold.
The other responds, “Don’t make case law.”
The cops knew that they were going to escalate the situation from before the encounter ever started.
Yeah, let’s just ignore that he refused to simply go back to the sidewalk when directed to, that he physically resisted being led back to the sidewalk, and that he then went for the cop’s gun, and that he wasn’t shot until he did that.
Just ignore all that, make your assumptions, and call me a bootlicker if it makes you feel better. Doesn’t change the facts.
“New York City’s jaywalking laws may seem obsolete, but the NYPD still tickets hundreds of people a year for the violation.” This JUST ended and jaywalking was made legal in NYC in October 2024. However this is a single city example. Jaywalking is still illegal and ticketed throughout the US. Especially if vagrancy laws were already removed, it’s a nice loop hole for cops to be able to harass homeless.
Ah, I must be too not-homeless, cuz that’s not my experience in NYC. Just another tool for oppression of undesirables then.
I’m in the Netherlands, I’m not bothered
For highways, it makes sense that you’re not supposed to walk there.
Americans have created such a large and dense web of highways that it is difficult to cross the street in some areas without walking miles in a given direction to reach a crosswalk.
Houston, in particular, has this bad. You can easily find yourself near a freeway or overpass that sends you on a 20-30 minute hike to cross the street.
Why would anyone want to live in such a place?
A combination of inertia, the cost and difficulty of moving, and being lied to from birth about how amazing this country is and it’s the best country in the world and everyone else has it bad and are jealous of us, propaganda reinforced by daily recitations of our pledge of allegiance in school for twelve plus years.
And that’s not made up or exaggerated.
If I didn’t know the context I’d think you’re talking about north korea
Yeah, it’s kinda scary when you think about it
It’s where my family and friends are.
I’m sorry to hear that
The land is (re: was) cheap
Fair fair
I once got yelled at by a cop for walking across a nearly empty road in columbus Ohio.
The closest crosswalk was basically 1/4mile in either direction, because the building I was trying to enter is so large.
I was walking with a cane at the time. And no cars were anywhere close so a snail could have made it across with time to spare. It took some people close by stepping in and arguing for me before the Douchebag dropped it.
Im sure if I had looked my usual level of disheveled or had any other shade of skin I wouldn’t be so “lucky”
Contrast that with my country which has law state that if there is no crosswalk closer than 100 meters, you are allowed to cross the road, provided you do so carefully - not disturbing traffic etc. You do however
looselose all protections of the law during this, and you cannot pass if there is a suggestion you shouldn’t, for example a rail or some other barrier between sidewalk and road.
I’m european.
Walking on a highway is just plain dangerous, to not say stupid. On that context, it is justified. Crossing the road outside the zebra crossing can get you fined, as you are endangering yourself and others. We have those laws as well. But walking on city streets? I can’t remember one in the entire country which I can’t walk up and down.
A lot of America is made up of roads that most people would agree in isolation should only be crossed at designated/signaled areas. However, if your entire municipality is just made up of those roads and you don’t prioritize crossing areas, pedestrians will naturally cross illegally.
I lived in an apartment building that had a parking lot across the street. The nearest crosswalk was a few minutes walk in either direction. The owner tried to petition the city to add a crosswalk, but the laws prohibited too many crosswalks regardless of the practical needs. He even offered to pay for it himself. So, you had tons of people who lived there crossing illegally.
How many runovers?
None while I lived there, which was a few years. I had a close call once because people sped a lot, so the perceived distance wasn’t always reliable. Cops camped out not far from the area sometimes because it was instant tickets as a result.
Did they fine the speeders or the jaywalkers?
Yeah European roads are either stuck where they are for historical reasons or built to be safe.
Exactly, weird is it not?
Very.
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In general, the US seems to be weirdly pro-violence.
Being beaten up is portrayed as perfectly normal in media and advocating for violence (like here) seems to be totally okay for many.
That’s fucked up.
I remember visiting another country as an American high-school student. We were shocked and overjoyed that BOOBIES could be shown on network television. It’s insane some of the violence that’s totally fine to show, but definitely not a woman’s nipple!
In Australia as kids we always decoded the international tv station’s abbreviation (SBS, special broadcast service) as Saggy Boobs Shows
There’s little restriction to what is shown in Australia, especially after 9pm
It’s because we have a lot of repressed rage because we know deep down we really are one of the shittiest countries, despite what all the cousin-humping country singers keep caterwauling about.
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.
It’s strange because we also have an extreme culture of litigation, and so much as an unwelcome or aggressive touch (without injury) could technically support a civil lawsuit or criminal charges for assault/battery.
The difference is that we apply justice differently depending on your political belief, so the acceptable violence is usually one-directional. Any violence by left protestors will be treated akin to terrorism. If you’re a right wing crazy harassing people protesting for a left cause, police will look the other way and you may not even be convicted for murder (e.g., Rittenhouse). Worse, the police are usually the ones being irrationally violent - like the George Floyd protests in which nonviolent civil protest was suppressed with military-level equipment, tactics and violence.
Breaking News: third world country has a corrupt legal system. Citizens shocked. More at 11.
Tyres get flatter‽
*in Minecraft
Sounds like one of those “no lives matter” militant extremist white supremacists.
Keep your murder-machine out of my city. Please.
Splattering lives is okay,but shattering such windows is the promotion of violence? Honestly? 🔨
The mod might be referring to the sticker itself. “Don’t post bumper stickers that promote violence.”
Then the mod should have posted the comment as it’s own comment and pinned it to the top.
In capitalist US, property is more valuable than human life.
Property is more valuable than human life everywhere in the world. For example, two million children die from hunger each year. 7$ will protect a child from malaria for a season. I could save so many lives by selling everything I own and donating it to charity, and yet I don’t. And neither do you, or most of the rest of the world.
Life has value. Each of us estimates our own life to be invaluable, but the life of those farther and farther away has less and less value for us. Not because it’s not actually worth less, but because we’re tribal beings. We care about ourselves first, then our tribe, then if we have any extra resources we might care about other tribes too.
But yeah, what I’m saying is I’d let the entirety of lemmy die for a crisp 1$ note and I’d lose no sleep about it, y’all were born in the wrong tribe.
Wow, you’d really let me die for $1?
I’d let myself die for $1 if it was painless and quick.
Sounds cheap enough.I’m sorry man. That’s unfortunate, and I have to hope my life is never in your hands. I hope you understand why.
Uncritical acceptance of power structures as natural extensions of humanity. Sometimes this place really is Reddit.
Property is more valuable than human life everywhere in the world.
No not really. There are lots of places where it wont fly in court when you kill someone to protect your property. In the US it does, all the time. They frame it differently and cry self defense or something, but we all know what actually happens.
You’re a bad person and you should stop pretending your selfish disposition is natural and immutable simply because you’ve noticed others are too. There are reasons people behave the way they do and those reasons can change.
It’s some weird sort of sarcasm/projection. He does not really mean it, I have been there, been edgy before…
Remember: You can take lives to protect property, you cannot damage property to protect lives.
Who told you that?
Rittenhouse
He was damaging property to protect lives?
His stated purpose of being there and taking his gun was to protect property (by taking lives if necessary) from people who were damaging property in order to protect lives (the BLM protests).
by taking lives if necessary
That’s an aside you’re imbuing, he never said the above.
Huh. I don’t really consider Kyle Rittenhouse a valid source of my moral philosophy, so I’ve never heard his manifesto before.
In fairness, my dogs are considered “property” and I value both of them far more than the human who put this on their vehicle.
Thats just called familial priorities tho. Doggo is fam.
Ah, so that’s why they try to reestablish slavery. Make people property again to protect them. Got it!
This is reddit mods in a nutshell
Similar story to how I ended up IP banned.
Story about a politician advocating for killings and kangaroo court imprisonments> i make a comment saying “yeah this guy is gonna end up dead if he tries this” > banned for threats of violence. … appeal, arguing that it wasn’t a threat. Just an acknowledgment of political volatility… suggested mods were politically biased for seeing it that way. > appeal rejected and permabanned
edit - I understand reddit mods dont issue IP bans, but I was hit for ban evasion after abandoning a cooked account that they refused to let me appeal. the ban evasion rule is a “gotcha” to make people , any and all . to go away. I only say that this time it was an IP ban because I had been perma’d before, only to immediately move to a new account I already had made (and on the same device no less).
my guess was algorithms improved /s
Banned for similar reason. Mod misinterpreted my wording and IP banned for inciting violence. 100 characters max in your appeal so impossible to explain yourself.
Does anyone actually have a foolproof way of dodging an IP ban? I miss participating in my city’s local sub.
I actually have a bit of a conspiracy that reddit flags accounts who don’t make them money (don’t buy coins, doesn’t use app, uses Firefox, etc) and specifically watches them for TOS violations.
VPN, new account.
Didn’t work longer than a day.
I still miss some of it’s smaller subs being actually active enough to have a daily chat abiut the certain interest.
But i was banned from inciting violence after pointing out my life was in a weird place for being able to purchase unregistered firearms in a firearm free country, while not making enough to find a place to live (we ended up renting a 14m2 room on 2 fulltime + overtime, incomes)
I appealed, but they didn’t have it so i figured i could just make a new account which screwed me over.
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I was banned by a reddit admin, site wide.
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Both moderate content no? Anyway it’s not important, I was banned by some dumbass for no reason
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Both are mods
The mods don’t IP ban you. What happens is you get your account permabanned from a big subreddit like r/politics. Later in another account, you use r/politics again, either because you think the ban was clearly bullshit or you just forgot about the ban on an old account. Then reddit’s site tools kick in, see your connected accounts, and IP ban you for “ban evasion.” Individual mods won’t IP ban you, but the site will IP ban you for daring to evade the bullshit decisions of clearly biased tinpot dictator subreddit mods.
It was an account level ban issued by Reddit. The account was perma’d by an angy Reddit admit in response to my appeal reply. so once the account was cooked, I deleted it and moved onto another, and the IP ban came after, automatically, for ban evasion. Caught in a situation where I was in violation of the site wide rules just by existing, over a ban they issued out of biased rage.
so in technicality, yes, its as you said.
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No, my account was issued an account level ban for a comment on a sub. It had nothing to do from the sub moderators. There was no interaction from them as the comment was pretty standard for the topic at hand.
Im not going to argue with you, theres what happened, and what you think happened based on a story you were told. Arguing over it is a waste of time.
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Then reddit’s site tools kick in, see your connected accounts
Maybe a better question then would be, how do these tools likely work, and how can they be circumvented?
I’m sure VPNs can be used. You would have to use a VPN, a new email address, and perhaps a different computer even. But honestly, I just don’t care anymore. I’m content leaving reddit to their demons. I have had a few big accounts on there with hundreds of thousands of comment karma, a decade in age or more. I contributed insightful commentary on the site and ended up on r/bestof a dozen or more times. It’s clear that they don’t want people like me, or anyone with a nuanced opinion, to be on the site. They want to focus on tiktok style brain rot, because the MBAs that have taken over Silicon Valley have no original ideas beyond copying each other.
If you want to have nuanced and deep discussion on a site, you can’t let your most prominent forums be taken over by unaccountable mods with an agenda (like r/worldnews) or operate with zero-thought zero-tolerance policies like r/politics. Your biggest political forum cannot operate on a philosophy of “any mention of violence is a permaban,” when the presence of violence and discussion of it is a key part of our current political landscape.
They don’t want real discussion anymore, if they ever did. They just want zero-tolerance, zero-thought moderation policies that are easy to enforce algorithmically but stifle real and nuanced discussion. And their site-wide admin an appeal process is completely worthless. They want their site to be a cesspool of teenagers post memes and nothing else. And if that is what they want, so be it. I’m done contributing to their bullshit. Reddit is far from the only discussion forum I’ve used. I was reddit, but before that digg. And before that, slashdot. And there comes a time when sites sometimes just get so up their own assholes chasing quick and easy money that the only correct choice is to just walk away in disgust.
One of the main reasons quality of content on the site has plummeted so much in recent years is they’ve likely banned or driven away many of their best commenters and posters. They want their site to be clickbait trash, and they simply aren’t willing to put in the effort to make it a place to hold good discussions.
We’re glad to have you
Yep, that’s the way it is now
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The majority of reddit subs I’ve been banned from were for posting in other unrelated subs in violation of sadly unenforced moderation rules.
Then there’s being banned from r/atheism for “egregious immorality” - I look at it as a badge of pride to be banned from an atheism sub on grounds that sound like ones only a religious sub would use.
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Go back to reddit if you agree with their moderation so much. You will prefer it there.
I’m only proud of the one, and only because of how weirdly out of sync with what you’d expect the given reason was.
Basically every other sub I’ve ever been banned from was a “you commented on a post on a sub we’ve since decided we don’t like, so we’ve summarily banned you with a bot just in case”.
The problem is we’re talking about the main discussion forums on one of, if not the biggest, discussion sites on the internet. They allow way too much power to be in the hands of unaccountable moderators.
Want to know how my main long running account got banned from r/politics? I wondered aloud where the military was as an armed insurrection was literally storming the capital building of my country. Objectively, something like January 6th shouldn’t even be possible. I wondered why the crowd wasn’t being driven back by soldiers using automatic weapons fire. That is what a nation is SUPPOSED to do when its democracy is under siege. If you want your democracy to continue to exist, the sad truth is that yes, you have to be willing to kill people who take up arms against it. Otherwise some small well armed group will take over the whole place as you blindly cling to non-violence. My account was banned, on January 6th, as it happened, for wondering why our nation’s military was failing to defend our democracy. Later it was revealed that the military wasn’t deployed there, as Trump had specifically avoided deploying troops there as part of his plot to overthrow the election.
Or I had another account banned from a few subreddits for saying that if SCOTUS rules the president has complete criminal immunity, that he should respond by taking out a few Supreme Court justices. If the president is above the law, then he is now a dictator. And the only moral use of dictatorial power is to strip yourself of that power. In another account, I suggested on r/politics that Biden should just drone strike SCOTUS justices until they put out a ruling stripping him of that power. That got me banned for promoting violence. But the most ridiculous thing? r/politics openly allowed stories on the front page stating that the exact same thing should be done. They hold their comments section to a far higher standards than the stories they allow at the top of the r/politics feed.
Or how about getting instant banned from r/worldnews for saying anything remotely pro-Palestinian? That subreddit has been completely taken over by militant Zionists. If you have the temerity to dare to point out that, for example, the fact that the IDF has a worse civilian:combatant kill ratio than Hamas, you’ll get banned. Or, they love to make a fuss about how that UN aid agency, with thousands of employees, was found to have some Hamas members in it. Nevermind that Hamas by their nature are mostly ordinary people who work ordinary jobs. The aid agency had a much, much lower share of Hamas members than the general Gaza strip population. But if you dare to point this out, you’ll get instantly banned.
Yeah, you can cower behind the policies of reddit, “Just because you think it’s bullshit doesn’t mean you get to ban evade.” But that’s ridiculous. Unjust rules are meant to be broken. I have no respect for a reddit ban because they aren’t worthy of respect. Reddit allows their biggest, most influential subreddits to be dominate by mods who have comically biased enforcement records or who implement zero-thought, zero-context rules like their misapplication of violence in r/politics.
Yes, you can always say, “but…but…those are the rules of the site!” But this is a cop-out. It doesn’t make it any more just than any other comically unjust law or rule through history.
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Mods can ban you from communities, cancel any of your posts, delete any of your comments. That’s about it.
The trouble is that people are unfairly banned from subs they have followed and contributed to for years and there is no appeal other than begging the guy who just maliciously kicked you out
That’s not counting mods who are also admins and mods who are good friends with an admin. You can get a site wide ban for saying the wrong thing in front of one of them
You’re arguing in bad faith. No one is arguing that the mods aren’t violating the rules of the site. You’re clinging to that fig leaf that no one is arguing about. The real discussion is whether unelected mods should ever have that much power over such influential public forums in the first place.
In other words, you’re acting exactly like a reddit mod. Good job.
I don’t think I’d dare comment on anything politics, religion, environment, current events on Reddit post API change
I go there for about five special interest subs and I try to not be logged in when I want to look up something else there, to curb my tendency to reply
So that’s the position current implementation of rules of Reddit and subs have scared me into. It’s a bit of a police state, with big sub mods as secret police
Similar for me. In so many words, a JFK quote paraphrased. Make peaceful reform impossible and violent revolution becomes inevitable. Banned at the IP address level.
Yeah, Reddit moderation is… Fucky wucky. But this is also a general problem in American society. It’s perfectly okay to kill people for profit, but if you break a window you’re the bad guy doing a violence. (It may be present in others as well, I just don’t know)
Police violence is a okay. Rioting and causing property damage that’s bad.
Are you saying that because you believe it or because that’s what the system says?
I was parroting the bizarre talking point people use in response to political/social issue riots.
People will hand waive or justify violence by the police. When the public responds in anger, the response is “Can’t we think of the property!?” What these people are saying that property has more value than a human life.
This is Lemmy, probably the latter.
I certainly hope so… But I’ve seen people who unironically espouse this stuff.
May the odds ever be in our favor.
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Admins can and they are just as stupid as mods.
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Trucks and SUVs are being weaponized today in the same way airliners were weaponized in 2001.
What ?
Driving trucks through crowds is the new 9/11. That’s what they’re saying.
Hijacking an airplane is a lot harder now, but any jackass with a credit card can rent a yank-tank and drive it into a pedestrian rich environment. That’s a much larger attack surface, and we can’t reasonably defend from it without oppressive surveillance and other personal freedom restrictions.
and we can’t reasonably defend from it without oppressive surveillance and other personal freedom restrictions.
Is that supposed to be an idea/excuse?
Edit: Read in style “Don’t give them ideas.”
A street closed to traffic in a gentle country might be closed with a light temporary barrier, or it might be closed with removable bollards sized to stop the largest vehicles that could try to access the area
Glasgow closes roads for their fringe festival with reinforced concrete highway dividers
A closed to traffic part of my town has a slow road leading up to it and a line of bollards, two of which can be removed to allow vehicles in when they’re allowed
It’s not hard to close a road in a way that keeps vehicles out
That great. All we need is a ton of removable bollards installed in and around every location where people will congregate on foot. Easy, that’s just every mall, convention hall, farmers market, community festival, school, workplace, sports venue, religious institution, government office, hospital…
Places that get pedestrianised one time each year do it with strong temporary barriers. Permanent car free places do other things to keep cars out
They plant trees
They install heavy concrete plant pots
And some that want to perform security use bold stainless steel bollards
It is harder to protect street sides, things like slowing down traffic (with road design, not speed limits) can help, adding protected bike lanes can help
what kind of degenerate sub is that lol
The Reddit kind
There are a few good subs, typically the same ones that didn’t protest the API changes and just kept on like they have been keeping on
How can anyone be so lacking in self awareness?
It’s a car brain sub.
Compartmentalization.
It’s a requirement for maga.
It gets easier to understand once you accept that some people just operate on bad faith.
Can any lawyers answer this:
If the person driving that vehicle did end up running someone over, and had that sign in the window, would they get an elevated charge?
To me, that sort of thing is like premeditation, and it would be extremely hard for me to believe that an “accident” led to them killing someone with their vehicle.
Not a lawyer, but I think stuff like this is a minefield. The defense would try to get it thrown out as prejudicial and without the suspect testifying all they could do is show a picture to an officer of it who affirms that he saw it on the car and enter it into evidence, but they could only indirectly talk about it in opening and closing because nobody can personally testify about the motivations behind the sticker.
But if the defense was “I panicked and hit the gas when people surrounded me” this is something that would poke quite a few holes in that argument.
It could, its just hard for the prosecution to handle. Because it’s not direct evidence of the mindset for that incident and it’s inflammatory to the jury the chances of it being ruled as prejudicial and not probative is high. That’s why past criminal convictions are also often excluded from trials.
It shouldn’t. I think people put far too much value on motive. Dead is dead. If I am killed by a gun or car it doesn’t make any difference to me or my loved ones who will never see me again. Likewise, if I had a kid who was killed by a school shooter or someone who was gooning to his phone while driving, I would hate them both equally. Motive can’t bring back the dead.
Obviously motive has some value, but it shouldn’t be the difference between a few weeks of community service vs a lifetime in jail. Motive shouldn’t have more weight than the actual consequences of our actions because that is insane and gives people this fucked up idea that they don’t need to worry about preventing the deaths of others as long as they don’t intentionally kill anyone they can drive like the most selfish asshole in the world and they will never go to jail
Not a lawyer but, premeditation isn’t what you think it is; one can premeditate an action in seconds, the concept really just conveys that the individual had time to think of the consequences.
But yeah, a sticker like this would certainly hurt the case of any defendant. It wouldn’t likely get them any modifiers (though it would help), but it could definitely affect a judge’s decision on how much time they should serve.
I think it would be easy to defend against, with so many of those stickers around it could easily demonstrate just a particular sense of humour
Should we tell them their family joined the protest?
I’m all for protests, but please don’t block major roadways or interstates.
emergency services use the same roads and your protest will kill someone. pile up on the sides of the road, throw paint balloons in the streets, throw your shit at cars passing by. I really don’t care.
just keep the streets clear for emergency services.
Some asshole protesters were blocking the highway here in Seattle at one point and prevented me from getting to a vet appointment for my puppy with cancer.
Fuck people who block highways.
emergency services use the same roads and your protest will kill someone
As soon as law enforcement stops killing us for funsies I’ll start caring about the vague hypothetical that a neoliberal gets hurt by accident.
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The irony of “i shouldn’t have to wait in traffic” guy calling us all entitled…
They didn’t say anything like that and you know it. At least don’t be disingenuous with your arguments.
ah yes I should make honest arguments like families of people burning to death and children getting killed from shootings because of protests.
I’m sure you are equally critical of that guy’s hyperbole
Whataboutism doesn’t change you putting words into that person’s mouth that they didn’t say.
tit for tat
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the irony just keeps thickening with you lol. I’m willing to let others suffer…
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easier to dismiss me as a troll than to realize how hypocritical you’re being. people protesting real worldwide issues like genocide to stop their government from actively engaging in it are self centered and only care about themselves but Mr. Liberal is righteously mad about being inconvenienced
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sounds like you need to read less books to garner some empathy from real people.
I have empathy for the protests. I understand it’s difficult to force change when you can’t apply pressure.
but I can empathize with the victims too. I’ve held a person while they died in their vehicle. they died because emergency services couldn’t get there fast enough. because some shitbird took it upon themselves to throw broken glass and nails across the freeway.
has anyone here ever held someone while they begged for more time? I wouldn’t normally recommend it, but from the repugnant comments on here it’s clear that none of you have a single empathic cell in your body and it might actually do you some good.
go ahead, spew your hate and ignorance. it’s only going to make more of them be more like the sticker on the window.
proceeds to be completely ignored and ineffective
I’m all for protests but just don’t inconvenience anyone or apply any political pressure and obey the law and go back home and be good boys
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Let me hop into your imagination and talk to him
Then even so, racial injustice, climate change, genocide, and other such problems that are being protested about cause more harm than that all the time.
Nobody said it’s pleasant, only that it’s necessary and the only way to affect change
In Germany, if the protest was registered before, emergency services will avoid the roads and use alternative routes.
that’s great, wish they did that in the US.
Every single protest I went to split to let emergency vehicles through.
Protests are supposed to be disruptive.
every protest I’ve seen on highways or streets smashed ambulances and cop cars trying to get through.
does that mean every protest is like that? no. does that mean we can’t all work together to ensure to protection of human life? no.
protests are supposed to be disruptive but don’t damage your message out of spite for society. target buildings or locations that speak to the movement. have a problem with the cops? surround every police station. have a problem with the city? block access to cityhall.
protests are meant to actually mean something, a defined message to the establishment that’s clear and easy for others to get behind.
everything else is just a riot.
everything else is just a riot.
which is based, actually
You did it, you fit the entire US vibe into one picture!
