• @[email protected]
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    I wouldnt be surprised if we find out decades from now there was actual fraud in the election to get trump elected. But it was swept under the rug.

    As far as we can tell there was nothing wonky about the election. But it’s all a house of cards we just believe in anyway. Seems like Republicans just believe whatever way the wind blows.

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      Fraud or not, he certainly had local (and probably foreign) powers interfering by disseminating false information and promoting narratives that favored him while putting Biden/Harris in a bad light.

      Off the top of my head, Elon changing the shitter algorithm to boost Republican opinions comes to mind.

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      He legally cheated by placing a lot of election officials, gerrymandering, laws on who can vote, etc. He really wasn’t worried about winning for a reason. He had people to cheat for him.

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        I don’t think that’s true, at least not to the degree that he expected to win outright. I watched his speech on the night of the election and he seemed legitimately shocked that he won. I think those people were put in place for the court cases he was planning for after he lost.

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          at least not to the degree that he expected to win outright.

          Legally cheating and this can both be true.

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      Oh I’m absolutely certain that there was either attempts at fraud or plans for fraud, at minimum. I don’t believe that it proved necessary in the end or changed the overall outcome, unfortunately. But way way way too many election deniers were getting put into positions where they could obstruct, influence or undermine the vote after the last election in preparation to (heavy-ass quotes) “protect the integrity of the 2024 election”, spear-headed by some of the least integrious people in politics, for there not to have been intentions to win by whatever means necessary. We also can’t forget that those people are still there and will absolutely be ready to act as necessary for the next election too

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    I’m shocked. What an incredible surprise. It’s almost like their opinion of the legitimacy of the election depends on the winner.

  • Wren
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    Imagine that! It’s only cheating if they lose.

    • Omega
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      Or the next time a Republican wins, but by not as much as they feel like they should have won by.

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    This article refers to voter confidence in the elections, not the validity some Republican politicians might assert towards an election.

    Basically, what this confirms is, that since Republicans won the elections, Republican voters are more confident that the elections were valid. This isn’t because they believe the fact that US elections are extremely secure. It’s because they won, and it’s their natural response, through confirmation bias, to immediately see the fruition of their own desires as “valid”. As such, they then project that sense of validity onto anything that might positively influence their own validation through confirmation bias.

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      “If I win it’s fair, if I lose it was rigged/unfair/cheated”

      • finley
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        The war people will never, nor can they ever admit they’re wrong. Any criticism = “attack on my beliefs”

  • ThePowerOfGeek
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    …For another year or so. I’m sure their hysteria will be back in time for the 2026 midterms.

  • @[email protected]
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    197 months ago

    I feel like the extremely low election confidence of independants is also an important part of this story.

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      What a nonsense person you are. Interesting how your statement doesn’t hold up even against the barest glance of the data in this post lol.

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          It seems like the issue that you are encountering is that reality has a left bias. Its difficult for republicans to be rightfully angry at democrats when democrats are universally the better party. You literally cant apply the same logic to both parties because one of them dont operate on logic.

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              What is a democrat? “In a hypothetical world” implies the names have simply swapped, in which case yes. Republicrats would do what they do. If its a policy swap, its basically the same thing. Democrats as they are now simply do not have the backbone to try and “rig” the election, because they prefer ethics and morals over actually helping their constituents.

              I dont want to make it sound like democrats can do no wrong, their lack of spine is their worst feature. They wont take risks such as actually moving to the left to get things done. Prime ratchet effect. Instead they want to play to moderate voters, aka republican lite. As a result democrats slowly move more to the right and get less good done each new cycle.

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    77 months ago

    My faith in the election system is fine. It’s my faith in the electorate that’s dead. This election was the final bullet in any hope I had left for the future of my country. At least I’m middle aged and my inevitable cardiovascular health related death is going to be sooner rather than later. If I was a millennial or younger I’d probably just find a tall bridge or something.