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I hope she’s saving for retirement. How does she expect to make money when she gets older and the OnlyFans crowd no longer wants to masturbate to her videos?
If she’s not a complete idiot, she probably already has more retirement savings than the average gen-xer. Assuming the pyramid scheme that is our stock market keeps growing, she might have already saved all she needs to. If the bubble collapses, she will just be living in a mad max apocalypse with the rest of us.
Lol having a PhD doesn’t get you a pension. She’ll make more from OF than she’d ever make by staying in academia.
So much this. PhD just means you are earning significantly less than your peers for at least six years, and then if you stay in academia, it’s less your whole life. There are some nice perks though, but for purely monetary reasons, you do not go for a PhD.
Yeah basically the only PhD that pays is AI research if it can get you a job at OpenAI.
But better hurry before we move on to the next fad!
Or OpenAI assassinates you for revealing that all the data it’s being trained on is copyrighted and that it’s a bubble built on a house of cards.
Nobody sees a sports athlete get a million dollar contract and says “I hope this guy is saving for retirement. How does he expect to make money when he can’t pitch fastballs at 100 mph?” Why does this comment only happen to women being models?
i just repeated what others below said better
a ton of famous athletes go broke after retiring because they are retired at like 35 or 40 with an unsustainable lifestyle. So many bad car dealerships and bad restruarants are retired pro athletes trying to maintain a lifestyle that they should have avoided while destroying their body for cash.I guess I’m weird, then, because I think that - especially regarding Olympic athletes in sports that don’t have much of a following.
It’s actually discussed a lot in sports. There are many stories of athletes who earned millions and were broke just a couple of years after retirement because they didn’t have the right people around to help them prepare.
I’m a basketball fan, so here’s an example: https://fadeawayworld.net/20-nba-players-who-went-broke-and-lost-millions-of-dollars
In a 2009 report published by Sports Illustrated, it was estimated that 60% of NBA players will go broke within 5 years of retiring.
Yeah recently heard a sports announcer saying that it was amazing that a 31-year-old was playing at the level that they were.
I was like, bro, he’s 31. What the fuck.
I’m going to make a generalization and say that someone in a PhD program (any PhD program) is more practical and better at handling financial planning than 95% of all professional athletes.
I have a theory about that that I’ll now subject lemmy to! Professional sportsers are often heavily managed from a very young age (practice schedules, diet monitoring, weightlifting regime, traveling). Even in college they often have to sign up for special versions of classes to fit with their schedules (on top of the diet/exercise/practice/travel) making fewer of their own day to day decisions than their peers. When they leave the sport they don’t have all these other people dictating their lives anymore but they haven’t had enough experience living on their own or room to make certain mistakes they would have learned from if they’d been in charge of more of their time and decisions.
I’ve actually found that college athletes (the ones I get to teach) are much better prepared (for “adulting”) than their peers at graduation. They have much better time management skills and tend to manage and navigate group dynamics better. I think some of what you are saying heavily depends on the sport or perhaps athletic level. I’m not teaching anyone near going pro, they just like their sport and enjoyed the scholarship.
Yeah, that’s cause there is a big difference between someone who is going to college and also playing sports vs someone at college to play sports.
If your a student athlete that is never going pro, then you need good time management, keep up grades, etc. If your someone going pro things are a lot different.
From what I’ve heard, you’re right. While athletes are pulling in money for the people upstairs, people take care of them. Once they retire, they become worthless to management/ownership, so they’re thrown to the wolves. With no money management skills of their own, a lot of them go broke.
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OnlyFans has a reputation for people exploiting their looks. OnlyFans users have a reputation for judging people based on their looks. As you may have noticed, people tend to be judged as less attractive as they get older.
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So does the NFL. Are you making sure NFL players are saving for retirement, too?
If one posted here, I sure would! It’s a shame when people who have usually been exploited most of their lives are allowed to go bankrupt.
You think a woman choosing to enter sex work is being exploited? OF and the NFL can be exploitative platforms, but because they are corporations, not because someone on the internet forgot to save the people taking part in those enterprises
Actually, I was talking about athletes who are fed lies, sometimes since high school. Sorry I didn’t specify.
She can always go back to STEM later. OnlyFans is not necessarily the end of a career.
I hope that’s what she does. She was intelligent and hardworking enough to get into the program in the first place, so that’s good.
She didn’t stop being intelligent when she started doing only fans.
Of course she didn’t.
That depends on whether or not people find her only fans.
You say that like she was going to make a fortune in academia.
She’s dropped out of a doctorate which means she likely already has more qualifications than you and I combined.
There’s a difference between making a fortune and just having a steady pay check.
The issue is when she is old and used up the income dries up completely.
So whatever “fortune” she makes from this better carry her for the rest of her life because that tap WILL dry out.
Or, you know she could get another job and build a retirement fund through that.
I guess but who is going to hire someone that’s been out of work for years?
Trying to explain to some hiring manager that you took several years off to show your genitals online is a pretty bad place to be.
when she is old and used up
Downvoted for blatant misogyny
obviously like any sporting personality who gets too old for sport you coach the next generation of only fans contenders, and manage their social media presence, marketing etc. all for a small % of their takings.
She probably gets treated more respectfully by her OnlyFans viewers than her co-workers in her PhD program.
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Have you never seen the insanity that is reddit’s porn section?
And thats how “respectful” they act when they’re Not paying for it.
Try going to an “AI” conference as a woman sometime.
Grift and misogyny go hand-in-hand.
Thats because everyone at an AI conference is going to be managment or sales.
E.G. Salesforce has Two conferences every year. The dev one and the sales one. The dev one deals with legitimate development of Salesforce and new tooling. The sales one pushes AI on the unwitting.
gonewild and associate subs have been showing lots lots of admiration and body positivity for amateur posters.
However, eventually all those subs turned into an onlyfans advertising platform, so maybe then the mood got spoiled.
Previously it was unpaid art for unpaid audience, and was almost unbelievably wholesome.
Capitalism doing the thing.
To me seems like individual humans decided that they want something in return for their nudity. Nobody forced them into that decision.
Some of the comments you see on posts of young women announcing they’re “barely legal” and in the comments you’ve got >45 year old men saying what they’ll do.
It’s just so creepy and unsettling.
Have you ever talked with a woman about her experience working in STEM academia?
45 year old men making gross propositions is not at all unusual. And often those are the people deciding whether you have a professional future.
Just STEM in general. My wife almost left her engineering program because harassment came from the male students as well as the male professors. The handful of women in my engineering school all hung out together and moved as one. Strength in numbers and all that. It was really shit for them. Dudes would just yell “omg girls here???” anytime they walked into like any class. Some profs too.
Have you ever talked with a woman about her experience working in STEM academia?
I can’t say that I have and my comment was in no way meant to that it doesn’t happen to them.
That’s what we invented cancel-culture for, isn’t it?
That doesn’t apply when you’re a PhD student and your supervisor is the tenured department head. You can try blowing everything up to pursue a sexual harassment case but that’s gonna be the end of your PhD.
I personally never understood dropping out when something like this happeneds. Like bro now you got the money to have the degree and not worry about paying it off. Might as well have it just to have it
A science PhD is fucking grueling.
As someone who didnt even pass their first year and dropped out, mind explaining whats involved in a PHD and why science ones are so grueling?
It’s basically just working for 6 years for not much pay while your friends who got jobs right out of undergrad are making at 3-5x as much.
But having the PHD makes up for it after right?
Generally no if we consider it from a financial perspective. Whether or not it’s worth it on an emotional level is very individual
I work in engineering with a masters, and I make more than people with only a bachelors. However, even with the masters pay bump I am unlikely to ever make enough extra money to make up for the financial losses I incurred in getting the graduate degree. It’s only “worth it” financially if you work full time and have your company pay for the degree.
PHDs make about the same amount of money and get about the same positions as someone with an only Masters. You get a PHD because you love studying and research enough to basically give up half of a decade of your life.
I considered getting a PHD until I realized that >50% of the PHD students and graduates I spoke to described it as, “6 years of my life I’ll never get back”.
😢😔
That’s what they say but I haven’t finished mine yet so I can only hope
It really depends on the field. In some areas PhDs make less than bachelors.
Not only that, but all the political game involved in the academia is mental.
And the work-life balance is atrocious.
When I started, my advisor told me to not think of myself as an employee, but as a “researcher”. IE I don’t get to clock out, my life revolved around learning/reseaching
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Now I’m reading about Bessel functions on my weekend… how dare you.
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Google is really shady. So whenever we use the share button on YouTube, they add a code to the end of the link that offers no benefit to us, but allows Google to tie your machine as source who shared the link that others click on. When you look at the link that you posted, you’ll see the letters SI in it and after that, you see the tracker.
To work around this, on desktop, you can copy the link from the address bar, which won’t include the code. Also, Firefox has a feature to copy links without trackers in them, because the practice is pervasive. On mobile, I would recommend just backspacing the junk in hopes of protecting your privacy a tiny bit.
I see. I didn’t realize that I had sent a link with trackers. Thanks for pointing it out!
That is one of the funniest things I have seen in a very long time!
“Do I look like Feynman” is my favorite bit. Starting and ending with “fucking Bessel functions” is also very poetic.
In some ways I understand it though. I’m sure the pecking order and bragging rights of being one of the only fans people that makes enough money to classify yourself in like the top 5% of income earners in America is probably more thrilling and exciting than having a PhD.
Plus, if she’s going for her PhD she probably already has her master’s degree so it’s not like she gave up academia entirely without getting anything from it.
That being said, I still agree with you. If you were close enough to be in the program you might as well just finish it off. What’s it going to do, stop you from posting your photos on only fans?
Uhh…do you people know anybody who’s been through a phd program? How would you rate their happiness from 1 to 10 while they were mid-phd program?
If that crap isn’t going to deliver them the world, it’s gonna be a reeeeeal hard sell to get em to put up with it.
This. I dropped out of my computer science PhD to start at the bottom of the industry in my early thirties.
If you don’t have a clear love of academia, a PhD is a clearly unrewarding slog.
And if you can earn a million each year as an alternative, why wouldn’t you go for it? I love science, but we live in a real world, not in a dream, and this real world decided that science wouldn’t be rewarding.
Academia is misogynist enough without an OF account. She’s leaving a shitty job not just a low paying job.
I know right? Imagine how much more a doctor could charge for sexy pics.
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They drop out so they can do the other thing full time instead of part time…
Especially because it’s porn. Gotta make as much money now while she can
Yeah, can always go back to school when you age out at 25…
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With 2m instead properly you won’t have to work another day in your life, with 1m you won’t either but you might not be able to live in the buffet cities.
Give me 1m and I’m retiring tomorrow.
Buffet cities? Every city I know has at least one buffet.
Cicis pizza cities only
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How old are you and where do you live that you think thats enough to retire comfortably?
They said invested, not ‘put in a checking account and drawn down’. Even 5% returns would be 50k annually, which is already more than the median individual income. Actual return on the S&P 500 for the last 25 years has been around 8%.
50k us is about what I make now and I’m in the suburbs.
Invested safely that’s what I would make with 1m, with 2m I’m having the time of my life.
I could have lived off that at any age as I’m currently making the most I’ve ever made by about 6k compared to my previous job…
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Insurance is a non issue for me, I used 50k USD as an example because it’s pretty close to what I make in CAD.
With 50k I can pay my mortgage and be mortgage free in less than 20 years then I need way less than 50k to live, that’s also something people don’t take into consideration, once you’ve paid you’re debts and you just have to pay for food and taxes you’re left with way more than you’re used to. That’s not even taking into consideration the fact that you pay less taxes on capital gain in a lot of countries, so 50k in salary =/= 50k in capital gains!
We’re in the process of buying a house based on my income alone, we’ll probably have refunded the 250k loan in 15 years tops, probably 12, then we start stacking to retire ASAP.
We were talking about winning the lotto at work once and I said with a million dollars I would probably quit if I could earn 5% interest on it to get 50k a year. My boss was like, that’s not enough you have to think about daycare and mortgage and car payments and everything. I then reminded him that I was currently making 30k a year. He stopped talking very quickly lol.
Good for her! I’m sure it’s not easy to achieve that kind of success on OnlyFans, so clearly she made some smart moves to get where she is.
/s?
No, no sarcasm. The vast majority of OnlyFans creators barely make any money. This woman did something smart to achieve success.
I guess it depends on how easy you can be discovered. It’s easy to take off your clothes and get people to pay you to do it, but if you’re in a sea of 1000s of women doing the same thing are you seen?
Same thing with being a YouTuber. Anyone can create a channel. It’s hard to make that channel worth something.
I’m sure “working hard” is way more important than being attractive on a platform where people pay to watch attractive women naked. Oh, wait…
Being attractive is a prerequisite, but not enough. There’s a lot of attractive women, not all of them make 1 mio. on OF.
Being successful anywhere requires hard work. You can be born into money, but you’ll have to work a lot to be a success yourself, not just a nobody with a lot of money coming from those that were successful. You can be born attractive (and that’s subjective anyway, people have a lot of different tastes and kinks) and without hard work, it’ll not be worth anything.
No idea why you are being so patronizing and dismissive. Either you are bitter and lashing out, or you need a little bit more perspective and general empathy, as in capability to see the world not only from your personal point of view, and the capability to process that, too.
This reads like a typical white knight comment one might find on reddit. Lemmy is getting more and more disappointing every day.
If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.
If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.
Someone sounds a little jelly. Seriously though, there are all kinds of people making way more money than that without doing a damn thing to justify a penny of it. The Internet allows niche means of making money simply because you can “sell” your products to thousands or even millions of people–in this case directly from the comfort of her home. There are plenty of other schemes out there that can be similarly lucrative if you’re good at what they want you to do.
Clearly this woman is quite smart to be in that field in the first place, why wouldn’t she take the more lucrative route? Wouldn’t you?
Not jealous at all, just disappointed I guess. I just can’t congratulate a person that had the skill/luck/whatever to get 1M with a minimum effort and they then decide to drop out of a job that could actually contribute something to society to do the banal and functionally useless job full time. It’s incredibly wasteful.
Also no, I wouldn’t go for the “lucrative” route if I already have more than enough money.
Finally, I have several friends that are phd students and you don’t have to be super smart to do that. You do need dedication though. But the same can be said for quite a few lines of work.
For someone who doesn’t have anything to discuss, you do have an awful lot to say and keep repeating. Suit yourself.
I do have something to discuss. If you prefer to ignore my point then what can I say. Suit yourself.
Complete the damn degree and then do what you want. At least your have a document to help you if the shit hits the fan.
She can do whatever she wants with that kind of money in the bank. Continuing her degree later wouldn’t be a problem.
That’s her only fan too
OnlyFans is suspicious af considering it’s not blocked in US states with porn bans. Some weird small group of people did a lot of hard work to effectively create a monopoly over porn in some U.S. states, users and creators should beware. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these onlyfans contents are marketing pieces.
As far as I understand it, the “porn bans” are actually laws that force strict ID requirements, not literally banning porn. (I’m not trying to debate whether they’re effectively porn bans, I’d agree they are.) So sites that are paid access only probably have an easier time proving they don’t let minors in.
Right, shifting the younger populations to the past of least resistance, and helping them form parasocial relationships which may be hard to break. Getting them while they’re young, so to speak.
Except you need to be over 18, and it’s easy to verify this if you’re paying with a credit card.
Besides, what teenager can’t figure out how to use a vpn?
It’s not suspicious really. They apparently don’t operate in Florida due to those ID laws. It’s more so just that the states have targeted PornHub specifically for their bans to start with and since PH is owned by a conglomerate of sites similar to them, it’s affected many of those sites. Smaller sites remain unaffected often times.
TBH, I don’t blame her in the least. It’s hard enough for men. I can’t imagine what it must be like for women to endure misogyny on top of what men go through in STEM.
I might do this to get out of being a software developer, tbh,
This is… so inefficient.
She could have become an engineer (or whatever she wants), made videos about it, and made a big difference in many people’s lives, and had whatever personal life she wanted. Instead, she’s producing ‘entertainment’ that’s been replicated a bajillion times.
I an happy for her personally, but this is such a loss to society and a huge ding against the education/work pipeline. If it isn’t ‘worth the hardship’ for someone so brilliant, hardworking, charismatic, attractive, and everything to go into STEM, then the system she’s in is completely busted.
If it’s such a loss to society, perhaps something should be done about society’s economic structure and how it partitions rewards. Rather than throwing shade on someone for making an economically advantageous decision.
When has anything ever worked that way?
Absolutely never
Especially with that attitude
I’ve done cursory research on this person, and my understanding is that she claims she will still be teaching science but only wearing sexy tops on. I don’t know how truthful that is but even some Olympic athletes said they are in Only fans but “only being sexy without showing”, in order to supplement their income. I don’t really fault people for this considering the worsening cost of living crisis.
The problem with sex work under capitalism isn’t the worker, but the capitalism.
This times several billion
Minus the “sex” part of “sex work under capitalism”
Sex work is real work. When we sufficiently progress as a species the concept itself will become incomprehensible because survival sex will become incomprehensible.
I just mean that the problem with all work under capitalism is the capitalism part.
Fair
What was the problem with it under feudalism?
The feudalism…
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Seen half a dozen posts like this recently. Always screams misogynistic outrage bait to me.
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Yeah, the money those few lucky ones make is chicken shit compared to what the platform owner makes.
The owner is a billionaire, so literally 1000x as much as her.
Seize the means of porn production!
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99%1% of performers on onlyfans for several years (according to onlyfans’ metrics, which actually are surprisingly accurate since it involves reporting financial information). At the peak she was making about $150/month. It really drove home that the number of people who actually make any substantial amount of money on any platform like this is shockingly low.You probably meant top 1%.
Sigh… No, I actually meant to write 99th percentile. Which is also wrong, and is entirely symptomatic of me being ‘an idiot’. (Ty for pointing this out)
Yeah exactly, the person that can actually make $1 million on the platform is rare, and often artificial (companies tweak the algorithm to make some users extra successful for these kinds of headlines and promotions). They’re just marketing and luring talent.
Especially since it isn’t true.
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Capitalism is a completely inefficient and unsustainable grift based on serving privileged white wieners.
Plenty of Chinese, black, south american weiners.
There is no need to bring in race and divide us. We’re all getting fucked by the 1% regardless of skin color.
