• Flying Squid
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        56 months ago

        Who do you think the actual loser is in that case? Because I’ll give you a hint, it isn’t Microsoft or Google.

  • @BangCrash@lemmy.world
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    276 months ago

    The single thing Google did right when they first came out was a clean UI with a search bar on an uncluttered page.

    At the time the competitors had search pages cluttered with ads and news. It was so bad you couldn’t think.

    If Microsoft makes their search nice to look at them it’s going to get many more users

  • @Breve@pawb.social
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    User: “Can we get Google?”

    Microsoft: “But we already have Google at home!”

    The Google at home: [reskinned Bing page]

  • ThePowerOfGeek
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    This is a genius move to keep you from Google search

    Seems more like a genius move to get slapped with another antitrust-like lawsuit.

    • @Feelfold@lemm.ee
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      116 months ago

      Corps don’t give a fuck about an antitrust law suit. In the US, the party that pays the most to jerk off CEOs just got put in charge. Even if it was the other party, who only pays slightly less, the most extreme fines are a slap on the wrist. Hell, come Jam 20th it’ll probably a tax write off.

      Until the EU levies fines that would kneecap these companies out of business, there is no incentive to change the behavior.

    • @sandwichsaregood@lemmy.world
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      I mean the original lawsuit was for aggressively bundling Internet Explorer and kneecapping other browsers. Which sure sounds a lot like a minor variation on what they’ve been doing with Edge and Bing for a while now, without consequences. Antitrust enforcement is not something I have a lot of confidence in for the foreseeable future.

  • @FundMECFS@slrpnk.net
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    1666 months ago

    Kind of fucked up but tbf Google does similarly shady stuff.

    Please just use duckduckgo (or SearX).

    • Fubarberry
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      186 months ago

      I feel like Microsoft is way more shameless about their shady stuff. They’ve been messing around with impersonating google/chrome for awhile now, they recently had that thing where they would copy all your open chrome tabs, and then when you started your computer it would open edge with all your chrome tabs to trick people into using edge instead.

      • @vinyl@lemmy.world
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        106 months ago

        They aren’t afraid of people complaining about them, they are afraid of the government, and they fulfill a hefty amount of contracts for the gov

        • Fubarberry
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          126 months ago

          DDG was letting Bing track users. They may have stopped now that they got in trouble for it.

            • Fubarberry
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              96 months ago

              Yeah that would be it:

              Previously, we were limited in how we could apply our 3rd-Party Tracker Loading Protection on Microsoft tracking scripts due to a policy requirement related to our use of Bing as a source for our private search results

              I couldn’t remember the details exactly, but basically up until then they were allowing Microsoft tracking despite all their advertising claiming they wouldn’t track users.

    • Gregor
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      466 months ago

      I host my own SearXNG instance, which miiiight be a bit of a bad idea because the anonymity of the crowd disappears but hosting your own services is way too cool to ignore. It’s at search.gregtech.eu in case anyone wants to use it.

      • @moe93@lemmy.ml
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        26 months ago

        How did you change the logo? I tried to do that on my instance and failed miserably. Running it through docker.

        • Gregor
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          36 months ago

          You gotta mount the image to the place where searxng accesses it, like this in docker compose:

          volumes:
                - ./searxng:/etc/searxng:rw
                - type: bind
                  source: ./images/searxng.png
                  target: /usr/local/searxng/searx/static/themes/simple/img/searxng.png
          
          
      • @nef@slrpnk.net
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        46 months ago

        This is nothing like GregTech! Where’s the tedious microcrafting to enjoy before every search?

      • kratoz29
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        46 months ago

        What I don’t like about SearXNG (aside of no favicons/icons I think) is that it doesn’t show the content of what I am looking for in the browser desktop tabs, if I search for “Linux” in the tab it is only shown “SearXNG” instead of what I am searching for… That definitely kills my browsing habits… I hope I am being clear (can’t post a screenshot right now), also unsure if it was the same with mobile browsers.

          • kratoz29
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            26 months ago

            Thanks for the heads up, always a good thing being proved wrong when asking for features :p

        • Gregor
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          46 months ago

          I can set up a favicon resolver on my instance. I’ll do it today.

          • kratoz29
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            36 months ago

            Thank you, I didn’t even know it was possible.

            I am gonna try it later, happy spying /j

            • Gregor
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              26 months ago

              There we go, I have the favicons set up. Sorry for the intermittent downtime, I was doing some configuration.

        • @hedgehog@ttrpg.network
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          76 months ago

          You can control that with a setting. In Settings - Privacy, turn on “Query in the page’s title.”

          My instance has a magnifying glass as the favicon.

      • @FundMECFS@slrpnk.net
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        86 months ago

        Hahha GregSearX I love it!

        I’ve used searX in the past and found it was decent but personally I am going to stick with duckduckgo because it just works better for my needs (especially since I’m on mobile).

        • Gregor
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          96 months ago

          I guess I could technically do that, but I really don’t give a f what people search for on my searxng instance. Plus, Google and the likes have an incentive to use your searches for advertising and building a profile on you.

            • Gregor
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              106 months ago

              I mean, none of that content is on my server, and the search engines searxng indexes probably so their best to remove illegal stuff.

              I really hope I don’t get in trouble for anything, but I doubt I will. I have a grand Total of like 5 users.

    • @vinyl@lemmy.world
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      I would use anything else before DDG, the primary function of it which is searching, generally feels sucky

  • @seven_phone@lemmy.world
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    406 months ago

    This is a search engine showing open evidence of skewing results away from true for their own motivations. Slightly comic when it is Microsoft doing it to Google but if they do this so blatantly how else are they more subtly redirecting our searches towards biased or even false results that benefit them and misinform the user.

  • @Rinox@feddit.it
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    66 months ago

    Wait, is Microsoft using Google’s copyrighted work on their page without authorization? This is going to get pulled so fast they’re gonna get whiplash.

    • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      Why would they? They can imitate Google’s style w/o violating their copyright, it would actually be easier to reinvent the wheel than to try to somehow copy what Google has. It’s nothing special, just a bit of padding and margin settings for result cards and whatnot.

  • @Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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    Remember when they proved that bing was just providing google search results?

    Like it straight up sent your search query to google search and fed back the results in the bing skin.

    Edit: i am uncertain that this is true, after a search i found this article from 2011

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12343597#:~:text="We noticed that URLs from,or the Bing Search toolbar.

    This is what i was referring to. I explicitly remember reading this story, either on bbc or somewhere else, back then but i didnt look into it any further at the time.

    I have had a quick look around (im in work) and there is a possibility that it was never proven. But i dont have a reliable source to show that at the moment. If anyone wants to fact check, be my guest. But please dont, as another poser did downvote my comment and post images of a google and bing search you did just now as evidence that my claim is false without looking into the validity of my claim.

    The link above is from 2011, as i said, and shows what i was claiming.

  • Read Bio
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    Besides Privacy DDG is wayy better then Google And Bing + It has a better search quality.

    • @Scrollone@feddit.it
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      I think Kagi is way better, but unluckily it’s a paid product. Most of the people will never pay for a search engine.

      • @twei@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Make sure you have regional results enabled if you’re not from the US, results get way better (just make sure the little toggle right below the search bar is on)

      • Read Bio
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        26 months ago

        It shows less results but i find it to be better personally.

    • @toynbee@lemmy.world
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      I prefer DDG to either as well, but in terms of search quality … Don’t they use Bing search results?

      • Read Bio
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        66 months ago

        Yes they use Bing but i think they did some adjustments to improve the search quality (Correct me if am wrong)

    • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      I don’t think there’s a difference in search quality, but I do really like the bangs and the client-side settings (can completely disable the AI noise, enable dark mode, etc all w/o needing an account).

  • katy ✨
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    because it’s not google we’re gonna make it look exactly like google

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    206 months ago

    With Net Neutrality gone, these giant tech companies could start bidding to make ISPs make their search engine default and have the other competitors fail to load.

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      The stupidest thing about this whole entire thing about net neutrality.

      The entire reason the FCC was created was to prevent the committee from being governed by the government process to avoid corruption for the exact circumstances we’re seeing here

      Saying that the Supreme Court and the appeals court has any area of saying what the FCC is legally allowed to do is laughable, as the entire reason for the committee being isolated from the standard Executive Administrative branches was to prevent government overreach like they’re doing currently.

      This is 1,000% them saying hey you’re an isolated committee that we can’t touch but you’re not allowed to do the one thing that your committee is supposed to do

      Corruption all the way to the top. It’s the American way, ironically I think the slogan “drain the swamp” works for both parties, as it’s clear that the people that are in charge aren’t willing to actually uphold the commitment they’ve made to the people.

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          Thank you for providing a perfect example. It’s manipulative or delusional to say that the fault of the country is exclusively one party. It’s how we got in this situation in the first place. The amount of partisanship that this country has is ridiculous, especially when the go-to response for anything going wrong is well look at the other side. The US as a whole needs to do better, nobody’s going to get anywhere if it’s just the blame game. Both sides can be at fault, blame is not unilaterally one way nor is it equal levels. I’m not downplaying either sides position, but I’m not going to ignore what’s happening in the country.

          Being said I’m not engaging further in this, I don’t want it to devolve into a political thread as its not the purpose of this, I was just making a one off comment on the irony of it all.