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Fucking THEATER
Hey, tbh, I’m fine with him focusing on things like this and trying to buy Greenland. It’s much rather he spend his time on theater than on actually hurting people
This is what Trump does day to day, spouting random made up shit on a whim. My guess is that it was ad libbed and there is no legislation, the whole renaming thing is probably news to his speech writer/diaper changer/whatever they call the person that tries to get him to talk about something specific.
The horrible shit is orchestrated by all the malicious fucks around him who can focus on one topic for more than 5 minutes.
He’s trying to get things like this and Greenland in the headlines so that he can do the actually harmful things without too much notice.
And when we post and upvote this shit instead of the harmful shit then we are playing into their hand.
No, he has no idea what the real agenda is. He actually thinks this bullshit matters. That’s exactly why he was installed in the position of president.
The guy is like, literally borderline retarded. Quit giving that asshole credit.
You are both right. Trump is the distraction and incapable of working on an agenda. He needs the people in the background. But he is capable of understanding what he is doing. And he likes it.
He doesn’t need to know, he just has to be useful to those who do know.
This is a distraction
Love how these commenters are all offended by a thing that will never get off the ground, or be heard again.
Y’all were around for the first time, right?
Muskland sewers
Moderates who “voted for the economy” right now: 🤡
The economy was predicted to do worse under Trump, as was/is inflation and housing prices.
What absolute fucking dumbasses voted for this guy for economic reasons?
What absolute fucking dumbasses…
You kind of answered your own question there.
Moderates who “voted for the economy”: 🤡
Also leftists who refused to vote at all because Harris didn’t solve the Middle East conflicts from the Vice President’s desk.
There aren’t as many leftists in America as there are liberals who voted in 2020 but not in 2024.
I didn’t say leftists were the only ones who didn’t show up to vote.
- Party has a President who supports modern day Nazis commiting Genocide with weapons, including some the US Military refuses to use because of “excessive collateral damage”
- Party put forward presidential candidate who openly thinks that support of those modern day Nazis is the right thing to do.
- Whilst actively supporting Nazi-level Fascists in their commiting of a Genocide, Party deploys Propaganda strategy of claiming that the real Fascist is the opposing condidate.
- Strategy only ever convinces the Party faithful, fails miserably and Party loses the election
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- Party faithful blame “lefties” for that massive fuckup.
Lessons Learned: Zero
Congrats, you just summed up a 60+ years conflict with, “they are NAZIs because I say so and I am the moral authority on all things.”
Impressive.
Genocide
Genocide
“because I say so and I am the moral authority”
Are we disagreeing on whether or not a genocide is taking place in Palestine?
I’m disagreeing what is happening in Gaza is tantamount to what the NAZIs did.
The NAZIs themselves didn’t start with what we say today that “the NAZIs did” - the Holocaust - they started with extreme racism, claiming to represent an entire ethnicity, claiming that said ethnicity was racially superior and a “normal” Genocide along ethnic lines of people from an etnicity they deemed subhuman, just like the Zionists.
You’re making the disgusting argument that even when an ethno-Fascist group is displaying massive similarities to the NAZIs at the mid/later point of that ideology, in terms of behavior, discourse and doing a violent mass genocide of people from an ethnicity they deem “human animals”, it’s improper to compare them to the NAZIs until these newer ethno-Fascists have committed their very own Holocaust.
By your logic we have to wait for the newest version of the same variant of Fascist as NAZIs to take their current Genocide all the way to a Holocaust just like the NAZIs before we can compare them to NAZIs.
PS: What’s happening in Gaza was tantamount to what the NAZIs did in the Warsaw Ghetto. I say “was” because the size and nature of the killing and destruction in Gaza has already go far beyond what the NAZIs did in the Warsaw Ghetto.
Calling them NAZIs is not a comparision.
Zionists are ethno-Fascists like the Nazis, who are the most violent kind of Fascist around.
Congrats for totally and very purposefully missing the point and learning no lessons at all.
“The point” and “the lesson” OP was spouting off about was NAZI this and NAZI that. Not helpful at all.
That’s some pretty extreme wilful blindness you have there if from that long post all that you got was that the acronym NAZI was imperfectly used as a shortcut for ethno-Fascist.
I mean, you’re absolutely right that ethno-Fascist (which, as I said, is an ultra-violent extremely racist kind of Fascist of which there are only 2 big examples: NAZIs and Zionists) would be better there than NAZI.
You’re also totally missing the point if that’s all you took for that post or think that you criticizing the slightly innapropriate use of NAZI is a criticism which in any way addresses 99% of what was in there.
I addressed the glaring fallacy. This person had no intention of debating actually truths they were just whining about their own personal beliefs and moral superiority. I’m not going to fall on my knees to suck their dick because they think they’ve figured out some ambiguity that “everyone else is missing.”
First three dots apply to both parties. Israel was doing a slower genocide when Trump was in office the first time because they didn’t have an excuse to dial it ip, and he was supportive then.
Yeah, there is profound love of Fascism on both sides of the aisle in the US at the moment.
Which is why, IMHO (and FYI, I’m not American hence have no emotional stake on it) the only option for American voters who don’t want Fascist-lovers running their country to make things better (rather than merely slow the worsening of things) was to send a message to the leadership of the party that can more easily move away from the whole Fascism-loving business, so that in the next elections they field a candidate which is not a Fascist lover.
The US is so ridiculous undemocratic that the only possible way to chose improvement with one’s vote is for traditional Democrat voters to refuse to vote so that the Fascist-loving Democrat candidate barely wins or even loses - which means enduring 4 years of Trump - to try and scare the DNC to field a less Fascist candidate next time around. All this is a stupidly long shot because there are so many ways the DNC can react to it that don’t really move the party leftwards.
That’s it. That’s the only way one’s presidential vote in the US can be used to improve things. A ridiculous long shot with 4 years of pain until things might get better. The useful idiots getting the DNC of the hook for its electoral defeat by blaming “lefties” sure aren’t helping the DNC get the message from the electorate and fielding a candidate who is not a Fascist-lover.
By the way, all this is entirely consistent with the view that Democrats are closer to not being Fascists than Republicans are. I’m not at all disputing that Trump is worse, I’m saying that if the Democrats aren’t turned around from the current trend in the “evolution” of their politics, it’s pretty much guaranteed that there will be US Presidents in the future who are even worse than Trump and hence that it is logic (though risky) to use one’s vote now to punish the Democrat leadership in order to change the type of candidate they field in future elections.
PS: I dispute that Israel has only sped up their genocide after Trump won the election - it seems to me the speeding up predates that, having happened still well in the period of the Biden Presidency and before the next president was known. It’s hard to pinpoint it, but might even have happened when Kamala Harris made clear her unwavering support for Israel, hence the Zionists knew that no matter who ended up as POTOS they were unwaveringly suppported by future POTOS. Then again, maybe it happened when enough hospitals were destroyed by Israel that the dead in Gaza stopped getting counted properly hence the numbers published in the International Press stopped going up significantly. That said, all that is irrelevant for the point I’m making as I accept that Republicans are slightly more Fascist-loving than Democrats.
I mean, we could pass state level electoral reform so we could be free to vote outside the 2 party system with no spoiler effect.
Republicans are passing laws in their states to protect First Past the Post voting. Why do the democrats want to use the voting system republicans prefer? Don’t democrats support democracy?
Congrats, you got to feel good while making everyone in the world’s life worse. We’ll see if it was worth it in 4 years 🙄 good job protecting your feelings over people’s lives
I’m not American and don’t get to vote in US Presidential elections.
On the other hand I easily find the detachment to analyze US Politics because I have no emotional stake on that race.
Frankly, you guys are fucked no mater what you do because the voting system in the US is undemocratic, but at least have the decency of not being willful bitches to one set of Fascist-supporting assholes with the lame excuse that doing otherwise would be being a bitch to a different set of Fascist assholes.
As I see it, in the absence of any choice who was not as Fascist-lover, the vote in these last US Elections wasn’t about choosing somebody who is not a Fascist, it was about sending a message to the party which can move away from Fascism more easily to do so for the next elections.
In that sense, all the useful idiots here now trying to dilute that message by blaming lefties for the outcome of that vote, rather than the DNC, are just making sure the DNC doesn’t move away from it’s current trend of “ever more love for violent Fascists”, hence keep on offering a smooth-talking-Fascism-lover candidate to face the opposition’s loudmouth-Fascist one and hence things keep on getting worse in the US because both “options” keep getting worse.
It’s funny all the criticism I see here of Republican voters for being stupid all the while many if not most of members of the Democrat tribe doing and upvoting those very memes repeatedly display the strategical-thinking ability of a goldfish.
talk about a revisionist take. the ask was to promise to enforce american laws regarding arm sales to isreal. but you do you mate. enjoy your trump presidency you certainly earned it.
Americans have definitely earned this second Trump presidency, even the ones who think themselves above having to pay for it.
Wait wait wait… So you’re saying the vice president isn’t the same as the queen and can’t just do whatever she wants?
I voted for Harris, because I believe in trying to be practical and try to reduce harm, but I also won’t even think of speaking ill of those who refused to endorse genocide just because the other guy might do genocide without the pathetic finger-wagging the Biden administration did as they handed over more and more and more bombs. It was a hard choice, and I chose pragmatics and harm reduction, but I also know that some fucking dweeb in the DNC is going to read that number as an endorsement signal for the platform of “genocide is okay as long as we tut at them while we hand them bombs”.
“Might”
lol OK
And? Do you think Joe Biden and Anthony Blinken saved even one drop of blood by giving Nettanyahu very stern disapproving looks as they handed him more and more bombs? If Biden tacitly approved of the genocide in Gaza, do you think there’d be a meaningful distinction between what things look like now?
No, but they probably did by not explicitly telling them to finish the job and giving them free reign to destroy every Palestinian.
Do you really believe that? Nettanyahu has showed at every turn that he respects Biden about as much as some dog shit he stepped in. The Biden administration got rug pulled on peace/ceasefire talks by Israel, what, five times that we know of? And they just kept coming back, like Charlie Brown, convinced they surely wouldn’t yank the football away this time. I think that Nettanyahu doesn’t even consider Biden at all.
Yes. Trump, during his previous term, moved the US Israel embassy to Jerusalem, which implies Israel owns it, rather than the shared control its supposed to have. That’s just one example of how Trump had already moved the US towards full support of Israel’s goals over Palestine.
Do I think Biden or Harris would stop them? No. Do I think Trump is going to do everything he can to empower them? Yes. He’s already done some of this and I’m sure it will continue now, as he’s indicated it would. You’d really have to shive your head in the sand to not see it coming.
I think the distinction here is a Harris presidency would at least pretend to if not actually put effort toward resolving the conflict with less bloodshed because some of the Democrat base wants that, even if it’s only symbolic and maintains the status quo and of Israel as a “strategic partner/asset”. Blinken was just on NPR explaining where their efforts have been directed (surrounded by non-answers, take it as you will), not taking into account how effective they were. We can fully expect a Trump admin to encourage Bibi’s efforts at rejecting a two-state solution or any kind of Palestinian sovereignty, and make it even harder to end the conflict in the future because Bibi wants to drag out the suffering as long as possible because that’s a key reason he’s in power. This is how I interpret it, and I believe any kind of equivalency between the two is overly cynical, which you can feel free to disagree with. If Trump’s admin somehow has a part in ending the conflict, I’d be surprised if any Palestinians make it out on the other side, and they’ll tout that as a win.
Cool now what trump does or doesn’t do well be on them. And now they can look back at all the violence in Gaza under trump and saynorodulyni did that. I’m responsible for it and feel good about themselves.
I disagree that it’s on them. This and '16 should have been easy elections. Instead of running their best and brightest against a man they’ve framed as an existential threat to the state, they decided it was a good opportunity to push (and don’t you fucking tell me they don’t have a thumb on the scales in the primaries) the most unelectable candidates in living memory. I think Kamala could have won, but as I recall it, a lot of the excitement around her began to fizzle out around the time it became clear that she endorsed such exciting policies as addressing climate change with more fracking, shrugging helplessly as we hand Nettanyahu more bombs, making some minor adjustments to healthcare, and offering some tax rebates to people who want to start businesses.
People are fucking drowning. They know shit’s broke and we’re in desperate need of change. The democrats misread the room and decided both in '16 and '24 that not really trying to do anything meaningful was fine, since what are voters going to do, vote for that guy? And now they’ve got the gall to blame the voters, which I guess just means that in 2027, we’re going to have cyberTrump vs Hillary Clinton (it’s really her turn this time you guys). When you start blaming and finger wagging the voters, that’s always a recipe for success. It’s cool, learn nothing, change nothing, just shuffle a little more to the right, tell us with words and not actions that cyberTrump is an existential threat, and everything will definitely work out this time.
Oh shit, just gave me the best idea. Let’s start the conspiracy that Trump is Hillary’s puppet.
I’ll get us started:
*Bill Clinton used Epstein to drum up compromat on all his political rivals
*Trump was put in place to dismantle democracy so that when Hillary took power her power would be absolute
*Trump was a Democrat most his life
*Trump is a NYC elite
*The true Republicans like Dick Cheney, Jon McCain and Mitch McConnel oppose him
I’m sure we could drum up some policies he has and tease them out to be actually liberal policies
Let me know if anyone else wants to spur on some MAGA infighting
Good luck, man. Trump could pardon Hillary and his base wouldn’t give one shit. Sure, you’d get the “WOAH REPUBLICAN VOTERS FELL FOR IT AGAIN, LOOK AT THEM BEING UPSET ON TWITTER” articles and Twitter screenshots and shit, but outside those, like, six people, nobody’s going to really care. These folks voted for a dictator to come in and magically make everything better (for them specifically, fuck everyone else), there’s nothing, and I mean nothing, that can break the cult fever dream around him. Trump could literally institute unironic communism (which would be the funniest thing ever) and they’d go right along with it.
True, but if we spread it enough and be insistent it would be lots of fun watching them refute everything. I’m still down, if anyone interested, hit me up.
Fine, then we gotta spend the money to care for the natural life there as if it were ours.
Oh you don’t want to spend the money? Figures, you cheapskate “conservatives”.
Delusional LMAO.
Yeah, good luck convincing the rest of the world to change to fit your wants.
The name change will go over worse than the Twitter renaming.
Or when they tried to change the name of French fries.
But Mexico has 63 more miles of coastline on the Gulf than the USA does. We should just leave it alone.
Wouldn’t surprise me if this was inspired to circumvent the new ban on oil drilling Biden just enacted. “We’re drilling in the Gulf of America, not the Gulf of Mexico.”
But Mexico has 63 more miles of coastline on the Gulf than the USA does.
USA != America. USA is a country that resides on the North American Continent.
While I know Trump is doing this to try and claim it as the USA’s… It actually makes sense if you actually use “America” properly to refer to North, Central and South America.
But Mexico has 63 more miles of coastline on the Gulf than the USA does.
He’ll solve that too.
We’ll croatia them and canada.
Canada has more land mass than the US does. Perhaps Trump should be talking about integrating the US into Canada (and doing away with the now-redundant US Presidential position).
Cascadia awaits…
Cascadia, the one envisioned as a racist white ethnostate?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
No, the geographic region you fucking mouth breather.
I was born and raised in Cascadia and I have never once heard of it being some white racist ethnostate it’s more of a bioregion/cool people thing…I googled it and it looks like some folk in the 1840s wanted to do that but comparing us with them is ridiculous on your part to tell ya the truth.
@Entropywins I feel ya, and I agree with you, but here’s a friendly tip: Any argument made in text will be more persuasive if you write it like a thoughtful, educated grown-up instead of like a drunk high school drop-out.
It’s one thing to be ‘casual’ in discourse. It’s another to come across as incompetent, inconsiderate, or lazy.
Online, all anyone sees are the words you type. That’s a huge part of how others will perceive you – and everything you say – and you should mindful about that.
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@Entropywins Yep, that’s what I expect from childish people.
You need to grow up.
I have never once heard of it being some white racist ethnostate
I was raised all over the country - but got an education in history. I’ve known the chud’s plan for Cascadia since I was a kid. Why don’t you read history? Don’t you think you should know what you’re endorsing before you start suggesting people support a plan for a white racist ethnostate?
Now that you know it’s history are you in any way reconsidering?
It’s not just a historical motivation, the scumfucks are still pushing for it.
https://thebaffler.com/latest/cascadia-lokting
https://www.kuow.org/stories/i-went-undercover-seattle-s-white-nationalist-group/
wake up
I’m sure Canada would love that influx of crazy
The US doesn’t have exclusive rights to “America” as a name. In fact strictly speaking “Gulf of America” is not a bad name since it is the largest gulf in the Americas AFAIK.
This is, of course, not why Trump is doing this.
The reason is racism
Then maybe “Gulf of the Americas” would be more appropriate.
True, they’ll probably call it Gulf of 'MURICA!
Except America has more then one gulf so it isn’t the gulf of America it is one gulf in America.
The US doesn’t have exclusive rights to “America” as a name.
Agreed. Let’s also change our demonym to Unitedstatian.
That’s also unclear, given the United States of Mexico.
Edit: I guess we could do Columbian, but I gotta assume Colombia would be annoyed and it’s not exactly descriptive of our foreign policy.
You joke but in many languages they do that, for instance “statunitensi” or “estadounidenses”
I don’t joke actually. I chose “Unitedstatians” exactly because that’s what other languages do.
Working on the important stuff first I see! While we’re at it, why did we slip back into calling them French fries. We need to throw some serious money at this problem - I’m talkin’ make the libs complain we could have ended homelessness money at changing the damn name of fried fucking potatoes!! Yeah, hand me my mountain dew hat! We’re dewin this! Murica! Hellz yah!
I can’t wait for the 80 trillion dollar investment
That is strangely going to the relatives of the oversight committee, what what can you do, eh?
This will go over about as well as the Sacagawea dollar coin, and the coin had the advantage of actually being a good idea.
How about New Mexico state?
Rename the city of Calexico to Calimerica
Mexico is formally named Estados Unidos Mexicanos, meaning Unites States of Mexico. How about renaming that to Unites States of America
The United States of Mexican America
Trump tomorrow: “we’re renaming the state of New Mexico to the state of New Murica!”
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Damn. Boomer politicians scraping the bottom of the barrel so hard now we’re stealing from China’s playbook? “It’s not Cuba, it’s American Taipei.”
They built a wall too.
Why not Gulf Of Trump? Gulf of MAGA? Gulf of Sharpie?
Idiot.
EDIT: And yes, he’s just trying to distract from his court cases… again.
Gulf of Butt Sharpies!
Gulf of Donvict Distraction
And French Fries are now Freedom Fries /s
20 some years ago when that happened, I remember saying “What? That’s stupid…”. I was a teenager at the time. I was yelled at by adults saying “NO! IT’S NOT STUPID!!! WE’RE AMERICANS!!! FREEDOM FRIES ARE AN AMERICAN FOOD!!! WE GROW POTATOES IN IDAHO!!! NOT PARIS!!!”
Today, I’m 41. Teenager me wasn’t immature. Well, ok, I was, on a lot of things. But NOT on this. 41 year old me looks back and says teenager me was right.
This IS stupid.
French fries then, french fries now.
I use the term “freedom units” whether someone tells me that they’re 6 shoes and 2 toenails tall instead of using metric.
Patriot theatrics was stupid then, and it’s stupid now. I remember being extremely frustrated that no one could tell me why a better (more location specific?) name wasn’t more popular. It’s not like “freedom” is exlusive to the US.
I mean, just call them Idaho Fries at that point. Besides fufilling your criteria, it’s actually more accurate all around. The french fry was NEVER french in orgin. I have no idea how it got that name.
Same thing with fortune cookies. Go over to china, and it’s not a thing. They’d be so confused if you went to china and requested an individually wrapped crunchy pastry that comes with a sheet of paper which predicts your future, gives you lottory numbers, and teaches you to speak the local language. All for free because you ate a meal with them.
Yeah, when I put it in text form, it sounds insane, doesn’t it? Well, it’s also American in orgin.
