I feel like I’m the only person using KDevelop
The amount of time my classmates have spent dealing with vscode crashing, freezing, breaking, etc is way beyond negligible. And yet, I’m the weird guy apparently for preferring vim and GCC.
tbh, one of the essential things vim gets right for me is that it’s designed as a text editor, not (only) a code editor. I use it for so much non-code text as well, but it feels weird opening a coding tool for such things.
It’s great to use an editor designed and built when vietnam and leaded gas were all the rage.
Exactly! It’s rare to find such old things that are still excellent today
If Vim is so good, then why can’t you browse Lemmy from it?
This meme was made by the Emacs gang.
Because unlike emacs gang, we don’t need to build an OS to browse Lemmy.
How bout you go back and let your friends know that if they’re in need of a good editor, try Vim ;)
How bout you go back and let your friends know that if they’re in need of a good editor, try Vim ;)
If my friends wanted a good editor, then I wouldn’t recommend a Vimitor, I’d recommend ed, the standard text EDitor :p
Haha, y’all are welcome to try that ;)
Vim needs are met by using Evil-Mode. You don’t have to leave Emacs for this.
*stealthily closes nano window and closes laptop lid…
As a poke at Emacs’ creeping featurism, vi advocates have been known to describe Emacs as “a great operating system, lacking only a decent editor”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war
:P
That can’t be right, the red car has a service manual and too many functioning assemblies for it to be VS.
My professor was always trying to get us to use vim or eMacs over an IDE to write our C programs. I’m sorry, I like using a mouse. I know, I know, blasphemy. I’m taking a shortcut. I’m a noob.
When I absolutely have to, I go for vim, mostly because I know a few of the key bindings for it, but otherwise avoid it.
I’m taking a shortcut
more like a longcut. I save so much time and effort not having to switch my right hand between the mouse and keyboard constantly
I keep my hands on my laptop and use my thumb on the track pad. My hands don’t leave the keyboard. I actually never use extra mice or extra keyboards.
track pad
it’s okay, we’re gonna make a plan and get you to safety. Pretend you’re ordering a pizza. How many people are currently holding you captive?
Go away
Competent terminal editors offer optional mouse support…
Zed representing
The comparison is bad. It’s more like comparing a kind of crappy car to a nice unicycle once you factor in UX. Not everyone likes to punch in key combinations so complicated it’s making game cheats look simple in comparison.
laughs in Emacs
I don’t mind Vim, it reminds me of my years using EDT on Vax/VMS systems in the 80s and 90s. My fingers knew all the function keys so well, the UI was almost invisible. But more recent years of using Windows because of work have ingrained VS and VSCode the same way, and I like the feel of the mouse.
Ewww not even vscodium
I switched to zed too. It’s not perfect but it’s just nice to use a different editor that is not sluggish.
Zed is amazing
Just out of interest, what are the reasons someone would move from neovim to helix?
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Personally, I love to tinker (especially on my main machine) so I don’t mind the complexities of setting up neovim. However, I do mess around with a bunch of servers, and I like to edit code on those servers, meaning I am often installing/compiling neovim and copying over my config before I can get to work.
What I am liking about helix is the idea that its default setup has what I need to get started straight away.
I am looking forward to giving helix a go.
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i have sort of done this. the main thing is that the reversed object-verb command model just… latches onto your brain. this is from kakoune of course, but it just makes a lot of sense coming from vimland. multicursor is also nice because it removes some modes, meaning there is less state to keep in your head. finally, the plug-and-play nature of helix means you can have an lsp-enabled environment from the word go, with no configuration.
That’s a good enough excuse for me to try it! Thanks.
I switched after development ended on the package manager I was using on neovim. I didn’t at that moment want to simplify my vimconfig, so I looked into helix.
Helix highlights the action you take, so if for example, you are deleting 5 lines, you select the lines first then hit delete. Sometimes the vim actions end up taking fewer keystrokes though. And I still prefer some ways vim does things. And I don’t always agree with the kakoune inspiration of helix (I haven’t used kakoune, just going by what the docs say) - for example, movement always selects text which I then have to unhighlight.
But the biggest reason I stuck to helix was sane LSP defaults out of the box with minimal config. I was tired of having to fix LSP related bugs in my vim config after package updates.
TLDR: saner defaults for helix + lazy to fix my bloated vimconfig.
helix gang anyone?
Helix is much faster than neovim, but annoyingly it feels so limited. Can’t change anything about it.
But it’s supposed to get plugins at some point.
Soon… surely… any day now… not coping…
The “worst” part is it already works, just takes long to become as perfect as possible. See the showcases like
filetree.webm.Edit: track the broader discussions/progress at this wiki entry.
epic editor :3
👋 present!
:3
This is sarcasm right? Right?
Nah. As a die hard Vim user, I can explain all day long why a flexible shared common editing experience across a team is a great idea, and why VSCodium is the obvious choice.
And I’ll explain and agree in principle all day long from the familiar beloved comfort of my Vim editor.
I use vim btw
I use vim, aliased to vi, on Arch btw.
I use neovim btw
