I see a lot of people blaming tiktok and “brain rot” content for the increasing ADHD diagnoses, but I think its a matter of better detection, similar to how OCD and autism diagnosis have increased too.
Also as someone with ADHD, it feels like shit that it could be “my fault” or that I have brainrot.
both? i was diagnosed super young, and by the time i got to college some people around me spent so much time on their phones or dodged so much homework it made me feel i was on a more even playing field lol
I think doctors are diagnosing ADHD more often because it didn’t used to be a recognized thing. Awareness and detection are both rising. I also think as pharmaceutical companies make ADHD meds they can profit from, it is yet another incentive for doctors to give an ADHD diagnosis.
I think people are self-diagnosing ADHD more often because, well, I could probably write an essay opining on that. It’s not just tiktok because the self-diagnosis trend predates tiktok but tiktok certainly contributes.
Excessive time on TikTok is not good for a person, whether it “causes” ADHD or not.
If you have an ADHD diagnosis, have a conversation with your doctor about both meds and non-med ways to improve your life. Cutting down on TikTok may be advisable, in addition to any meds or other instructions the doctor has given you. Obligatory “Lemmy is not the place for medical advice”.
I wonder if adhd should even be considered something that you get diagnosed with. So many people have it its like diagnosing someone with having red hair or something. Instead society should just accept there are people who think in different way and accommodate. Though of course people should still be able to know if they have that variation.
I wonder if adhd should even be considered something that you get diagnosed with.
What are you on about? It sounds like you don’t know what ADHD actually is and should stop talking as if you do.
I have a add myself so i have some idea, even if it isnt exactly the same.
Same.
Since medication and therapy can help, getting a diagnosis makes sense. ADHD is unfortunately not just a different way to think.
Hmm, might have mixed it up with something else in my head. Either way, society should be much more accommodating towards those with adhd. Tiktok is basically preying on those who have it.
Tiktok definitely reduces the attention span of its users. Same goes for YouTube shorts, instagram reels and all other short form content. But more ADHD cases being diagnosed comes down to better detection and generally more awareness by the public for the symptoms.
If you test more, you detect more.
I don’t think you can become ADHD. You’re either born with it or not.
Depends on who does the diagnosis and for what reason.
First of all, self-diagnosis specifically linked to TikTok trends or other social media is a very dumb way of claiming to have ADHD or any defining trait of some kind. Enough users do this to make it an issue of general perception of the actual state of things.
So while I’d say that detection has increased, the alleged “brainrot” has followed as well - for the duration of the trend’s popularity.
Self-diagnosing in general is dumb. That’s why Depression, ADHD, Anxiety, PTSD even and even Autism are seemingly record levels.
It’s discrediting actual sufferers and once again putting them under the rug. It pisses me off when I see bodycam videos, right away, the person arrested immediately starts going over a laundry list of mental issues that they have. All the while screaming, resisting arrest and shit.
Then we got armchair psychologists and therapists on the internet who practice without a license (or knowledge) that actually “grants” people these issues after just sitting down and having a conversation with someone.
I had ADHD a full 20 years before tiktok was invented
I was fourteen when I first got unlimited internet access.
ADHD is something you’re born with.
People are looking for it more than they used to. NOBODY was looking for it when I was young. I was probably in high school when I first heard of ADD. (They hadn’t added the H yet) and the general understanding was that ADD = a spastic kid that can’t sit still and makes too much noise, and that medication just sedated them to the point of complacency.
I was quiet, and liked to read, so when my third and forth grade teachers said that they were concerned about my ability to pay attention, my mom got offended that they would imply there was something wrong with her smart boy.
I wonder how my life might be different if she had listened to them instead of letting me figure it out on my own 30 years later.
This was me as well. Literally hiding other books inside school books in 4th grade because the class reading went way to slow. Didn’t realize myself until I was 26. Would have been great to learn earlier and maybe avoid the college burnout
This is almost the story of my boyfriend’s childhood.
“My son don’t need any drugs!”
Now he’s over 40 and finally putting all the pieces together. But not before going tens of thousands of dollars into debt, which is forcing him to keep a job he hates so that he can pay rent. Have I mentioned the daily panic attacks and constant stress on his body?
But he still hasn’t seen anyone to get a proper diagnosis because “I am barely making it right now, but seeing someone is something I can’t handle right now. Seeing someone might make it worse, and I’ll just go further into debt.”
So here we are. Quickly dying, and not fixing it.
“The quiet girl who is clearly not stupid and reads A LOT but has trouble organising herself will be fine, she’ll be able to sort herself out, especially with the help of her parents who are both teachers - no cause for concern here, there are kids who very obviously need more help.”
- my teachers, probably, in the late 80s and 90s.
I don’t exactly blame them, there really were kids who needed all their attention so I fell through the cracks.
Considering I’ve never used TikTok or joined it, I was diagnosed in 2022 (or so, I don’t remember), after almost 40 years of life. So much of my past, pre- and post-internet era, started to make sense when I learned that ADHD has an inattentive side that lacks the hyperactivity.
It’s not that the diagnosis of and has exploded due to “X cause,” but like autism, we have increased identification for them or categorize behaviors differently.
I don’t believe that ADHD can be developed but at the same time TikTok is literally engineered to prey on the symptoms of it.
Sort of like how we didn’t start noticing that some kids had attention disorders until we shoved them in a seat in a classroom for 9 hours a day, we didn’t start noticing that a lot more kids had the same issues when we gave them a bright, shiny, feature-rich and constantly updating video app for them to use.
The average age for women to be diagnosed with ADHD used to be 44 years old. It is declining due to better diagnosis tools.
A criteria for ADHD is hyperactivity. But 25% of children exhibit hyperactivity regardless of whether or not they have ADHD. This led to a lot of misdiagnosis.
ADHD untreated can result in it being harder to treat. The brain falls behind in it’s development of the frontal lobe. Early treatment in the form of psychoeducation and sometimes medication, reduces ADHD problems later in life. In some cases to the point of no longer needing the addition of medication.
While it isn’t possible to develop ADHD, the enviroment can greatly impact the brain’s development throughout childhood and adolesence. Influencing the severity of ADHD.
it may not be an actual chemical imbalance, but fuck me if 40 different doomscrolling apps won’t fuck up your focus and concentration. probably needs a new name, but it’s very clear we can’t pay attention to shit anymore, bombarded with 10 second videos, memes, etc every minute, always on our phones. even if you’re not ADHD diagnosed, you see and feel the effects due to this nature.
Just like video games don’t make someone a school shooter, tiktok does not make people have ADHD. Both can exacerbate existing problems and people need to be aware of this and look at WHY kids in particular seem to spend a lot of time gaming / scrolling brainless videos. But the causes are more complex and inconvenient so society jumps on easy answers.
people need to be aware of this and look at WHY kids in particular seem to spend a lot of time gaming / scrolling brainless videos
Obviously because of the dopamine rush, this isn’t new information.
Well yes, that’s what’s happening in the brain. I was more talking about the reason why kids might feel the need to passively consume for hours in the first place.
Because they need the stimulation.
It was Saturday morning cartoons when I was a kid. Then it was video games. Now they blame TikTok.
Don’t believe those people. They want any excuse except the actual answer, that humanity exists on several sliding scales. And while there is a normative zone, it’s not at all abnormal to be outside that zone.
While I am very much against the idea that “things were better in my day”, I don’t think the idea that the rise of social media, short form content and rapid gratification has had on today’s society and upcoming generations should be tossed out offhand. I do think there is something fundamentally different with some of the content presented nowadays, and how easy to access and addictive it can be.
Absolutely. Years of dedicated research have been spent maximizing the attention economy
It’s not just short form video algorithms. Streaming TV shows are made to where they effectively end about 15 minutes into the next episode. Video games are workshopped right down to the sounds they use for loot boxes.
And all of that might have an effect, but that effect is pretty clearly to draw in normal people. Not to somehow create ADHD.
Maybe it won’t create more, but it can agravante symptoms and lead to increased detection rates
The rates are also increasing. Not just better detection.
RCCX Theory.
The increase in rates is contributed by people having children later. Lots of peopld have kids later in life compared to decades ago. Like ASD there is a link between parental age at the time of having the child and an increase in non-normative conditions. It’s not the only cause, just a factor that increases risk.
I agree that is a factor. As are many other things. But we’re also seeing the rates of diagnosis of all the other rccx connected disorders like t1d.
Ok, maybe aging parental DNA affects RCCX more? Who knows. Also overweight parents are more likely to have kids with diabetes, and being overweight is rampant in the US.
Could be a different mechanism but yeah it is a stress vulnerability.
Type1, so the autoimmune version. As well as Crohns, MS, etc
https://me-pedia.org/wiki/RCCX_Genetic_Module_Theory#Conditions_associated_with_RCCX_gene_mutations
Humans are the product of their environment, and the younger you are, the more affected you will be.
If I put you in the rain forest with animals and plants and shamans, you would absolutely start to calm down and start to listen to people and become much calmer with time. Since the entire energy of the place is calm.
But if you sit in front of phones and computers on social media, where you have this constant energy of consuming content you forget a day later, your brain will start to be unable to think and focus after a while. It will feel stressful to listen to someone who talks even, because it’s not fast enough.
You’re talking about the change that can be the result of stress.
That is true, and people so experience those things.
But that’s not what a neurodevelopmental disorder is. They won’t go away by hanging in nature. Hanging in nature may treat it, but doesn’t cure it.
A lot of the stress from being overstimulated shares symptoms and treatment with add ans adhd though so there’s very little practical difference, except that society seems it’s wrong for people who don’t have neurodevelopmental disorders to medicate with anything stronger than three shots of espresso and a few bottles of “doubled caffeine” energy drinks — which is actually far more dangerous physically than just popping a Ritalin.
Ehhhhhh, I think it’s a little of column A and a little of column B.
I think the biggest tik tok contributor is people now hear about ADHD and decide because they get bored in schoo sometimes they must have it etc. (As someone who struggles not to chew through their own gums as a form of fidgeting, I find this really irritating.) But let’s put that aside because I don’t think that’s what you’re asking about. I’ll also ignore the fact that more people are walking into therapists having read all the symptoms and knowing essentially what to say to receive a “diagnosis.”
To the actual question, I do think TikTok/smartphones/internet are definitely rewiring our brains in ways that mirror a lot of symptoms of ADD/ADHD. There’s a depressingly good book about it called the Shallows but the basic thesis is that the financial incentives of the internet are geared to keep you clicking and moving through things (so you see more new ads) which habituated people to very short term impulses/reward structures. In other words, impulse control and trouble focusing long term.
