I am speculating that all the ridiculing and questioning Mark Zuckerberg’s masculinity over the years made him so insecure that he turned to the manosphere. We only have ourselves to blame.
I have only seen him be referred as a robot, which is fucked up to robots.
Lizards too
He’s just sucking up to the people currently in charge, that is all this is
How to alienate your daughter:
Daughter? Sounds like major feminine energy
Narcissists don’t care about things like that unless it boosts their ego.
Become a Musk atear.
What even is masculine energy? Is it about being a macho man focused on fat and destruction?
I think what he’s saying is that companies have felt insecure about their image (to investors) so they acted performatively woke (=feminine energy), and he feels insecure about his image (to Trump) so he’s gonna act performatively manospheric (=masculine energy).
This hits right on the nose
Huh you pretty much verbalized what I thought but were unable to put it to words. Big Kudos!
Thank you!
I was confused but boy howdy that is some lame shit right there. Thanks
Zuck is married?!
For over 10 years at least
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Somehow this is less surprising than him being married in the first place.
Terrible people marrying terrible people. Got it.
I feel like tech and finance bros turn to the right because bad guys who think they’re good get tired of being told by educated people that they are objectively bad guys. And instead of changing, they end up seeking spaces that will reward them for being bad guys and will allow them to ignore or disparage those offering valid criticism.
In a culture that exacerbates hierarchy, exonerates ego, and exalts control, true humility is too painful to even consider.
dude that’s awesome… it should be a meme or something…
They’re not bad, they’re just going on a neanderthal morality purge
If your values and your behavior doesn’t match, you have to either change your behavior or your values.
I think this is spot on for many
What is this esoteric talk about “energy”?
Last I checked most of the biggest corpos are still run by men from the last generations, with current generations still waiting around for them to die off and take their places. So the only thing Zuckerberg could be talking about is the soulless DEI tokenism corpos do to get public brownie points.
This kind of thing is an interesting topic. Obviously Zuck is a shit bag but that’s not what I’m talking about.
I’m not one to say that men are being repressed or that masculinity is under attack, although I do think elements of both of those things are true if the statements are interpreted in a generous fashion. I’ve found that people will accept the general statement that men have problems but talking about men’s issues in any detail is usually met with scorn. You can say “men have problems like everybody else” and that’s generally tolerated but if you say “X Y or Z is a problem for men” then all of a sudden you’re misogynistic or otherwise associating yourself with team white male privilege. I see this happen essentially every time the topic comes up. The vibe seems to be “we’re dealing with everyone else’s problems so we don’t have time to listen to your complaints”.
People like Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate have made a career out of listening to those problems. They offer shitty solutions and horrible explanations but they’re paying attention and in return they get views from people who don’t feel like anyone else is. There are a lot of guys out there doing their best to be good people who need to feel like their problems matter to society. You don’t have to abandon the things that are important to you to listen to them. Just commiserate a bit and a lot of them will be happy to listen to your problems in return. That’s how empathy is supposed to work.
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It turns out that calling any guys who aren’t socialists or liberals Nazis
If you vote for a fascist, I’m gonna call you a fascist 😭😭
These so called “men” are manchild Americans who see being asked to not even take responsibility for their actions, but simply to recognize the possible consequences of their actions, as being “vilified”. It’s not our fault they’re so weak minded that they crumple under the slightest criticism and flock to the first strongman character who tells them it’s everyone else’s fault their fee fees are hurt.
An a non-American who lived there for ages, you lot are toxic.
Only men that I would vilify would be the men who say women should not have rights anyways :p
This isn’t as relevant as you think it is.
Remember not to feed the trolls y’all
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I cannot think of a bigger cuck move than bending over to court bad faith actors and suckling at king maga’s sweaty little man nipples for $$
I hate everything about this comment, but you’re not wrong.
You’re on a website where people come out of the woodwork to defend “ethical polyamory” and the biggest cuck you can think of is a CEO trying to curry political favor with the current US president?
…, Being poly doesn’t make you a cuck
The gender identity of your work places energy is not the damn problem. Raise the damn pay. People will work in a sewer if you paid enough.
People working in a sewer should be paid the most.
I think meta pays pretty well
What a fucking joke, he wouldn’t know masculine energy if it roughly penetrated him from behind whilst lovingly whispering in his ear what a good boy he was.
It fits his whole revamp with the judo and working out and human haircut. I assume in the near future he’ll go on Rogan and then end up launching a podcast of his own.
He was on Joe Rogan a week or two ago
That’s a bingo!
Him photoshopping on facial hair I thought was bingo for me but apparently we aren’t playing 4 corners.
I believe “shirtless photo on horseback” might be the next stage.
Can anyone who upvoted this explain what’s actually wrong with Zuck’s comment?
"Masculine energy I think is good, and obviously society has plenty of that, but I think that corporate culture was really trying to get away from it […] It’s like you want feminine energy, you want masculine energy […] I think that that’s all good. But I do think the corporate culture sort of had swung toward being this somewhat more neutered thing,
It’s nonsense.
Ok but you can’t explain what’s wrong with the comment?
It’s easy to get offended and think it’s wrong, but considering my comment is at +1/-6 yet no one has actually explained what’s wrong reinforces my belief it’s actually sensible. Something that’s obvious nonsense can be debunked with no effort, yet here we are
A good start would be defining what those words mean to him and to his company.
For instance, given nothing but the recent news about Meta and the quote from the OP, it sounds to me like Zuckerberg thinks “masculine energy” means “act overtly bigoted, and punch down whenever you can.”
I’m a man, and I like to act masculine in the “help those around you” way rather than the racist, napoleon complex “I am a strong boy because I offend people and I have good taste because I hate everything” way. And I don’t appreciate him putting more negativity on the word than there already was!
I’m not gonna get into it with sea lioning.
Its ironic because theyre trying to project masculinity without doing anything worth a fuck. If zuck wanted respect he would have done something beneficial with his position like a real man.
It has the vibes of run-of-the-mill toxic masculinity trying to categorize behaviors based on gender and then make it subtly clear that only the masculine category is good and acceptable, or in his words, not “neutered”.
Or at least that’s how I understand the outrage but it doesn’t mean that’s exactly what he’s saying because his statement is plausibly deniable. He needs to clarify (but does he really, given his latest activity around prez Musk & Co.?).
Ahh yes big rat-penis energy from dead mark 💀 🐀
Mark and his rat penis transplant might have other pressing things to think about.
