Meh, I mean, Arch includes non-free software as well, so as a Trisquel user, you are all dead to me.
Alpine?
As an AmogOS user you seem a bit sus
Long live Proxmox.
Pop_OS is what I may stick to. It’s fantastic.
Whatever floats your boat is fine with me. I’ll just ask chatgpt how to install packages on your distro if I have to help you.
No love for Debian, yet again
Ubuntu is Debian
Ummmm aktually…
Ok ok there’s different stuff and things
As an Ubuntu user, I would never say “Long live Ubuntu”.
Long live Android!
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As an Arch user, both Debian and Pop_OS are better choices than Ubuntu
I currently have Pop_OS on a laptop, but haven’t run Ubuntu in a while. What is worse about it? So far (installed the other night) I just hate how slow the Pop Store runs. Terminal is quick and fluid, Firefox was good, Jellyfin setup all seemed to go quick. Installing the client for my VPN (PIA) went on forever and had issues so I just installed OpenVPN and set up a single Spain VPN gateway there. But for whatever reason that store just drags ass
The Pop Shop is definitely one of the worst things about the distro, Cosmic Shop runs smooth as butter by comparison. Looking forward to the Cosmic Beta currently due in a few months
Thanks for the tip
Don’t forget Mint.
Imo Debian with Cinnamon is better, it may require a tad bit more effort to set up but its more stable
That’s fair. Personally, I use Debian for my little home server, but it’s not a desktop OS for me.
Nice thing about linux is we don’t have to agree. We’re free to use whatever we want.
You would be genuenly suprised how good of a desktop OS it is, granted the packaged are old but keep in mind you can use repo packages for stability and flatpak for up to date software
I’m sure it’s perfecly fine as a desktop OS. It’s just not for me. I prefer more up to date software, so I recommend Mint to anyone asking, but use Endeavour (Arch, BTW) myself. I finally understand why people are always singing the praises of the AUR.
Also, if I’m going to lean into Flatpak as a packaging system, I’m gonna use it as an excuse to properly try an immutable system and see how I get along with it.
Now, all of this is purely my own opinion. Other people can use and like what suits them. I’m not trying to gatekeep or be an elitist. I’m an absolute noob myself.
Honestly thats fair, im referring to people who dont need up to date software :3
(I dont use Debian, I use Arch btw)
In that case, I’d still recommend Mint or Mint Debian Edition unless the person knows what they want. Then Debian would be absolutely fine.
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Stable as a rock
But
Old as fossilised remains
For 99% of computer users thats a good thing, not eveyone wants to update or needs the latest and greatest (also Debian is three years out of date at worst).
😄 I know
(We are in a meme community)
Oh right I forgor… Uhhh… I meant its not Arch btw therefore it sucks :3
I just use Linux Mint Debian Edition for my study laptop, sounds pretty much the same - in over a year of use, I have literally never had a single problem with it (other than things directly caused by me like leftover fstab entries for testing). I know it’s what Debian is renowned for but god damn that is a stable operating system.
As an old crusty Slackware user and UNIX admin, IDGAF what Linux distro people use; using any of them is a step in the right direction.
Couldn’t agree more! Hell, it doesn’t even have to be Linux. AIX on an LPAR? Cool. Irix on an old SGI workstation? You do you, man. MacOS and you use open source tools? Get it, man! Solaris on x86? You’re a sick fuck, but hey, it takes all types to make the world go round, you Larry Ellison supporting twat. Anyways, just use a unix variant, any of them.
What? No mention of the bastard child: Microsoft Azure (Mariner) Linux? You sick MS loving mutant!
*hear
hear!
Leftists be like
He’s not wrong though. Historically left parties have been more splintered than right ones.
I use Ubuntu in my room because I’m dead inside.
What about outside your room?
Arch Beyond The Wakestation
me as an arch user when I have to use ubuntu for work: arthur-fist-clench.gif
No FLOSS loving Linux user is dead to me, not even the GNOME project team, and frankly I suspect it’s noobies and non-users pushing these memes lately.
I agree. I don’t think I’ve ever actually received or witnessed the hate that the memes espouse as the norm in the Linux community. I’ve seen some “oh really, I had trouble with that so I use blank instead” or maybe even “you should try blank” (mostly when people ask though). I think most of us are too busy hating Windows to really truly hate other linux distros. We have our favorites and we will happily share that with anyone that asks, and many that don’t.
I’ve tried to stop talking about it all the time to friends and family as I don’t want to scare them off, but I am just using it everyday in front of them and showing them that I don’t have infinitely more problems than they do… Hoping it just seeps in via osmosis and at some point one too many “hey, you should buy a new computer, windows 10 is going end of life soon you know” pop-ups will set off that magical chain reaction.
I met a friend of a friend at an event and somehow PCs and Linux came up. He asked if I’m a Linux user (which I like to think you can’t immediately tell). I assume to build some nerd cred. I said “yeah, I technically have Linux with me right now”. He asked what I meant, so I pulled out the Steam Deck. He was unfamiliar and I briefly explained.
When he heard it’s a commercial product (obviously), he actually pretended to faint. And then kept acting as if I had personally insulted him, not in a joking way. I had clearly failed the purity test in that moment.
It was a strange experience. Not even in hackerspaces I’d ever had a conversation like that. So these people are rare but they do exist.
Absolutely wild. Pretending to faint because a company sells hardware running on Linux? I feel like most of us want to be able to buy more computers that don’t just automatically come with Windows… That person sucks.
honestly if I heard someone say “I technically have linux with me right now” I would expect them to pull out an Android phone and say that Android is based on the Linux kernel (it is, its just not what anyone means when they say ‘linux’, its a pretty good example of how ‘linux’ refers to the OS and not the kernel)
Yeah fair. I expected to chat about how Linux could displace Windows on Desktop, to which SteamOS and Proton on an x86 chip is a lot more relevant than Android.
Steam Deck is one of them best things ever created. It is a great way to market Linux to masses, this is the same way Windows gained its market cap. Windows made its dominance by being the default operating system for most PCs, normal users don’t know how to install operating systems, and probably don’t even know Linux exists.
Yeah. That kind of attitude is missing the forest for the trees. Open source gets better the more people use it, including the vast majority of casual users who don’t know or care about the GPL. Pretending that’s a problem is just gatekeeping to feel special and stroke your own ego.
Exactly, that or trolls & saboteurs
I’m never going to feel fully satisfied using an OS that has an official ‘pro’ version.
That’s fair!
Oh come on at some point, every software project or foundation needs to cover their expenses somehow or else they enshittify or cease to exist/get acquired by a dangerous, moneyed conglomerate. It’s known as the going concern principle.
Out of all of the projects that I can think of in recent memory that started as big open source useful things, only VLC Media Player managed to avoid turning into garbage, and it’s because the lead developer is a saint.
You can avoid Ubuntu because they have a paid plan and that’s your prerogative, but imagine they got bought out by Apple or something.
I know a lot of people are fine with a paid plan, I’ve just seen what has happened to some projects like Fusion 360 where they slowly take away more and more features from the free version, slowly decrease support, and all new features go to the pro version. I would be surprised if this happens to ubuntu, but I don’t want to take that chance.
You’re acting like there isn’t another option. I could just go use Arch with KDE Plasma or something instead, or maybe Fedora which is at least somewhat separated from the ‘pro version’ (red hat)
Out of all of the projects that I can think of in recent memory that started as big open source useful things, only VLC Media Player managed to avoid turning into garbage, and it’s because the lead developer is a saint.
the Linux Kernel, Blender, Godot, Lemmy are some examples that come to mind, or maybe I’m just not understanding what you’re trying to say here
As long as it follows Unix conventions it is the correct way to computer
MacOS!
It gets a pass
I would never use MacOS myself but I get the ‘it just works’ aspect and the crazy energy efficiency of Apple’s hardware, also some tech youtubers I respect like Jeff Geerling and JDH use it
Now, iOS on the other hand… (I was seeing if a family member’s ipad would work as a drawing tablet for Blender recently using the Moonlight app (which actually supports pressure sensitivity btw), but USB streaming doesn’t work because apple ties that to its hotspot and therefore having cellular, and the 3rd party apps are all removed from the app store, its just so stupid that I have the ipad and the cable and yet I can only transfer data over wifi)
the crazy energy efficiency of Apple’s hardware
This is just ARM, Windows and Linux see similar results on it
they still have the lead, here are some screenshots from notebookcheck
