• @[email protected]
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_and_Malcolm_Collins

    Well that’s just a fucking trip of dysfunction.

    Just that bit is a lot.

    If the population declined and it makes the economy do less well, won’t people just have more children like they did the last time the economy was in that state? Every environment has a carrying capacity for the creatures that live in it. It’s not uncommon to see fluctuations above and below that equilibrium point.
    Instead of pushing people to ignore the factors that cause the limit in humans, like not wanting or needing more children, maybe find a way to organize society so hitting that limit doesn’t cause massive problems, or try to eliminate some of the factors creating the limit. It’s insanely difficult in our society to have even one child who’s healthy, cared for, and prepared for their adult life while also being personally healthy, prepared for old age, and enjoying the variety of pleasures of existence.

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      Ironic that they claim all of their decisions are backed by data, but still employ corporal punishment. That’s something that had been quite definitively demonstrated to be far less effective than other measures.

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        Thank you! I was literally just thinking that.

        I also can’t let go of how they say every decision is backed “by data.” But then what is their data source for using corporal punishment? “I saw lions and tigers use it.”

        So they think “anecdotes” are the same as “data”? AND that wild predator behaviors are suitable role models for human behaviors? Oh. Oh dear. Oh no.

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          I wonder if they’re aware that male lions will kill the leader of a pride to take his place, and then kill the cubs of that male in order to force the lionesses into estrus? Would they support the same behavior in people? Or is it only the corporal punishment parts?

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      Absolutely adore this bit from the screenshot:

      which is based on Simone’s personal observations of lions and tigers on a safari trip.

      Sad we have no studies on human children. But thankfully its perfectly reasonable for someone on holiday who’s untrained in interpreting big cat behavior to decide whats good for a bunch of animals is good for human kids too.

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        I let my children eat trash out of dumpsters. I determined it was a good idea after personally observing raccoons while on a park trip.

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      I just read their wiki page and it is absolutely filled to the brim with crazy wacky shit.

      The Collinses do not support transgender health care for youth, but express acceptance for people whom Simone described as “legit trans” as opposed to those who fall into the “trans cult.” Simone opposes allowing transgender students to use bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity and to play on sports teams matching their gender identity.

      As a trans woman, this stood out to me. I’m not surprised that they are transphobic, but why make the point about “legit trans” and “trans cult?” I assume they consider “legit trans” to be the tiny percentage of transgender people who are right-wing nuts and the “trans cult” are those who aren’t. Basically they’re just saying “We only support transgender people who want their faces eaten” which is a strange way of phrasing it since usually transphobes tell all of us to go fuck ourselves, including the dumb ones that support the leopards.

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        It’s probably more like they can’t deny the reality of trans people, but they think that it’s a very tiny minority and the rest are just cultists.

        You see this same fallacy with autism. Why are there “suddenly” more autistic kids? It isn’t because vaccines are giving them autism or something like that. It’s because doctors know what to look for to diagnose now.

        People fall into this same trap with trans people, because 20 years ago it was extremely rare to meet an out trans person. So, now it looks like they’re suddenly everywhere! What could be the cause? A trans cult recruiting people?!

        No, it’s a cultural shift. Damn, people can be stupid sometimes.

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          That’s a really good point. It’s not an evident thing from my perspective because being transgender is so normal to me that I don’t know if I would have ever even thought about that.

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          I know about transmeds, and considering that they think medical transitioning is required, I think it would be weird for a transmed to be against blockers and hrt for kids.

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          They’re probably supporters of Blanchardian typology. Now as for why so many people go to bat for a sexologist who doesn’t believe in bisexuality I’ll never understand

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      Bla bla managing director bla bla Investor Peter Thiel. OK, I’ve read enough. Yet another Thiel apprentices.

    • edric
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      I encourage everyone to read the entire wiki page as well, and it will make sense why they are the way they are.

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    Looks like they both might be genetically predisposed to myopia. Not very elite of them.

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      Myopia seems to be far more of a childhood environment thing than a genetic thing. For a long time it was thought to be from too much close viewing (reading books, sitting short distances from screens), but more recent research suggests it is more from lack of sun exposure. UV light prompts the formation of dopamine, and higher dopamine levels in the eyeball are required for it to maintain the optimal round shape as it grows.

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      Is a complete lack of self awareness heritable? Are they going to breed a race of super clueless whities with bad eyesight?

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    HA HAHAHA HAAA HAHAHA and I can’t stress this enough HAAAAAAA

    But also, aren’t these just autistic people? Of the type we used to call Aspergers?

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      I have a friend with Aspergers who would be quite offended by that comment. These people are just idiots, don’t blame it on a diagnosis.

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        23 months ago

        In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony gods blessing but because I managed to find someone as insufferable as I am.

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        43 months ago

        Atheists with divinely inspired scripture? Wow. OK everything there is concerning. These people seem like they need to touch grass and do something normal and weird like community theater instead of whatever bullshit they’re on

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      That might even be true, but you know what names will be taken even less seriously? Titan Invictus and Industry Americus. 😂 Freaks creating freaks.

      Invictus & Americus as standalone wouldn’t be the worst names, but Titan & Industry? For women? Those “names” sound rough as sandpaper. These people are so book-smart, and without friends/contacts to keep them in touch with reality, they’ve become kinda dumb & fallen prey to delusions of grandeur.

      Wiki on this couple is an amusing, terrifying, and short read. I was wondering what they do for work, what their contribution to the world is. The answer…not much… “Venture capitalism”, so basically they’re money farmers investing money to make money. A necessary role, but not directly producing anything themselves. And tech MGMT, again, probably not directly producing many works but cracking the whip & supervising other people doing work. Color me not impressed.

      They claim they’re not eugenicists, conflating eugenics with racism. Which simply isn’t true, what a stupid thing to say. They are eugenicists, they actively screen & sort embryos, pursuing the best results. That is eugenics, and there’s nothing particularly wrong with that. Very practical.

      Both are the products of failed relationships, the man a classic failed marriage, the other a failed polyamorous marriage in Japan. They married after a proposal…over Reddit. Jesus Christ, am I on drugs? Is this real?

      “Do you spank your kids?” “Oh, heavens no, how barbaric. Inspired by tigers in the wild, I slap my kids across the face. 😇” Lol!! Wth. 🙃 These kids will likely be mental trainwrecks (just like their parents) if they don’t straight-up commit suicide.

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        As someone who grew up in a failed marriage sometimes I feel like it was a minor achievement for me to have a happy romantic life, but then I see people who look at how fucked up their parents were and say “hold my beer”

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      Industry Americus

      That’s the grossest name I’ve ever heard. Look, I’m not even getting into the “Americus” part. Sure, that is… well, it’s not a name I would’ve picked. But more importantly, it follows the word Industry, and whether alone or paired to American industries specifically, the images conjured up from that word are far from pleasant.

      I picture smoke stacks belching into smoggy, yellow skies. I see poisoned streams flowing through dying ecosystems. I see tired workers being overworked and exploited.

      What a great name for a cute little baby to be burdened with.

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      That shit sounds like 4channers that got too much money, it’s beyond stupid

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      they could easily be Fallout characters lol. I am all into science and shit but Titan Invictus for god’s sake? This is why we need parenting licenses to prevent people like these ruining childhoods.

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      Yeah, this is sad. These are people in dire need of mental health care and they’re not getting it because their narcissism is in the way.

      We should make it so that when someone is too narcissistic that they need mental help, that we can force them. Their poor daughters will now have to live with this shit and become just like them and the cycle continues

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    This couple and really anyone who learned about evolution by watching Idiocracy: if intelligent parents are needed to make intelligent babies, from where did intelligence first arise?

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      Two fishes fucked and made a deformed fish that liked air more than water. And now I have to “clean the garage” and “not eat all the cheese its”. Fucking ass hole parent fish.

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      Heavy natural selection pressures. Don’t worry, we’ll see those again in a couple decades.

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        Broke: Higher calorie consumption, low stress environments, abundant free time, institutionalized and publicly funded education systems.

        Woke: Generations of cracking open one another’s skulls to feast on the gooey goodness inside until only the largest and most succulent heads remain.

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    423 months ago

    Those inverted commas around ‘elite’ are doing so much work they should probably unionise.