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The Collinses refuse to give their daughters traditionally feminine names, because they believe social research shows that women with feminine names are taken less seriously
Their daughters are named Titan Invictus and Industry Americus.
That might even be true, but you know what names will be taken even less seriously? Titan Invictus and Industry Americus. 😂 Freaks creating freaks.
Invictus & Americus as standalone wouldn’t be the worst names, but Titan & Industry? For women? Those “names” sound rough as sandpaper. These people are so book-smart, and without friends/contacts to keep them in touch with reality, they’ve become kinda dumb & fallen prey to delusions of grandeur.
Wiki on this couple is an amusing, terrifying, and short read. I was wondering what they do for work, what their contribution to the world is. The answer…not much… “Venture capitalism”, so basically they’re money farmers investing money to make money. A necessary role, but not directly producing anything themselves. And tech MGMT, again, probably not directly producing many works but cracking the whip & supervising other people doing work. Color me not impressed.
They claim they’re not eugenicists, conflating eugenics with racism. Which simply isn’t true, what a stupid thing to say. They are eugenicists, they actively screen & sort embryos, pursuing the best results. That is eugenics, and there’s nothing particularly wrong with that. Very practical.
Both are the products of failed relationships, the man a classic failed marriage, the other a failed polyamorous marriage in Japan. They married after a proposal…over Reddit. Jesus Christ, am I on drugs? Is this real?
“Do you spank your kids?” “Oh, heavens no, how barbaric. Inspired by tigers in the wild, I slap my kids across the face. 😇” Lol!! Wth. 🙃 These kids will likely be mental trainwrecks (just like their parents) if they don’t straight-up commit suicide.
As someone who grew up in a failed marriage sometimes I feel like it was a minor achievement for me to have a happy romantic life, but then I see people who look at how fucked up their parents were and say “hold my beer”
Sound like warlord-class, to me
Yeah, this is sad. These are people in dire need of mental health care and they’re not getting it because their narcissism is in the way.
We should make it so that when someone is too narcissistic that they need mental help, that we can force them. Their poor daughters will now have to live with this shit and become just like them and the cycle continues
I had hoped that was an onion link
Industry Americus
That’s the grossest name I’ve ever heard. Look, I’m not even getting into the “Americus” part. Sure, that is… well, it’s not a name I would’ve picked. But more importantly, it follows the word Industry, and whether alone or paired to American industries specifically, the images conjured up from that word are far from pleasant.
I picture smoke stacks belching into smoggy, yellow skies. I see poisoned streams flowing through dying ecosystems. I see tired workers being overworked and exploited.
What a great name for a cute little baby to be burdened with.
they could easily be Fallout characters lol. I am all into science and shit but Titan Invictus for god’s sake? This is why we need parenting licenses to prevent people like these ruining childhoods.
That shit sounds like 4channers that got too much money, it’s beyond stupid
Haha you’re hillari…oh shit.
Hah I have 4 of my own and they are fucking feral, so good luck offsetting that, dorks!
It’s like they saw that scene in Idiocracy and took it literally
Mike Judge and his corrosive effect on the psyches of GenX will be the death blow for the nation.
I love the idea it’s all Mike Judges fault…
They literally did
Looks like they both might be genetically predisposed to myopia. Not very elite of them.
Myopia seems to be far more of a childhood environment thing than a genetic thing. For a long time it was thought to be from too much close viewing (reading books, sitting short distances from screens), but more recent research suggests it is more from lack of sun exposure. UV light prompts the formation of dopamine, and higher dopamine levels in the eyeball are required for it to maintain the optimal round shape as it grows.
Glasses make me look weak. They’re like a wheelchair for the eyes.
Love me some VEEP.
I always was on the “nerd” side at school but boy do those faces look punchable.
HA HAHAHA HAAA HAHAHA and I can’t stress this enough HAAAAAAA
But also, aren’t these just autistic people? Of the type we used to call Aspergers?
They are highly atypical & their marriage is the result of a proposal over Reddit back in 2013. Wiki is wild.
In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony gods blessing but because I managed to find someone as insufferable as I am.
Atheists with divinely inspired scripture? Wow. OK everything there is concerning. These people seem like they need to touch grass and do something normal and weird like community theater instead of whatever bullshit they’re on
I have a friend with Aspergers who would be quite offended by that comment. These people are just idiots, don’t blame it on a diagnosis.
As a neurodivergent person, thank you for writing this for me.
I happen to think it’s both.
Then you should communicate that better. “aren’t these just autistic people with aspergers” makes it seem like you think everyone with aspergers is like this.
Perhaps, but I’m not going to.
elite but still need glasses huh?
I’m pretty 1337, but can’t see shit without my glasses.
That e-1337, not elite.
They’re rich enough for LASIK, so maybe they just don’t want to see each other’s details while having sex.
Holy shit is America in for a surprise when the influencers catch up to the European glasses thing
We’ve got fucking bellends walking around like they smashed their faces into a couple of CRT monitors
Yeah as someone who can’t wear contacts and won’t do LASIK
Fuck big ass glasses they ain’t cool if they aren’t gonna protect you in a workshop
What are you on about.? Can you show a picture.
I’m European and have never seen that, got any examples? And I’m wondering if you’re talking about only the frames or the lenses too? If you’ve got really bad vision you have no choice, and the thicker the lenses the fewer kinds of frames are available. Contact lenses don’t work well for many and there are several reasons why surgery might not be a choice.
I’m talking about the frames, no need to try to be offended on someone else’s behalf, I wasn’t talking about the lenses.
Gigantic and gaudy specs are a thing, sorry you hadn’t noticed
Edit - I’m talking about this phenomenon, seems to be a thing in western Europe at the mo, in affluent circles -
Oh we did that a decade ago with buddy Holly glasses
Neither of the people in those photos need glasses. Or, those glasses have plano lenses; there’s no distortion at the edges.
Large frames like those require very hiugh index lenses, because otherwise your lenses get really thick at the edges. My prescription is fairly bad, and I need 1.67 index to avoid stupidly heavy lenses.
Also, frames without nose pads don’t usually stay put on your face. I find them very uncomfortable, esp. since I have to wear glasses for everything.
Off-topic. I’m wearing without nose pads now, because they also didn’t stay put for me, and caused headaches.
As life long user I can only say glasses suck.
Damn straight they do.
The extra-shitty part is that the lens in your eye gets less elastic as you age. I’m myopic; if I had gotten LASIK years ago, I would now be hyperopia, and would need glasses to read anything.
I would 100% replace my eyes with cybernetic ones if it was possible.
At least those are big, the ones that woman is wearing have both a thick and small frame which makes a truly horrible effect.
We seem to have some sort of natural immunity to that. Whether for good or ill, only time will tell.
I think you missed the point where they want more of the “right people” whatever that means. They think they can outbreed everyone else and win by having the most right people. See just about every major religion as a case study for this.
I feel like proper eugenics was pretty soundly debunked as people are more complicated than peas. I think that the only thing you can reliably predict is race.
And these people look like that Nazi from Raiders of The Lost Ark.
It was never soundly debunked in theory. We are animals and like all animals our offspring inherit traits from us. Hypothetically if you could agree on what “good traits” looks like you could selectively breed people based on those traits and get people who are more likely than average to have those traits. Keep doing it for generations upon generations and you’d get people optimized for those traits. Even without knowing what gene or genes are responsible.
The problem is that we’re notoriously bad at deciding what is and is not in the set of “good traits” and tend to pick stupid shit like “being Aryan/white.” Also forced/restricted breeding is unethical at best, and fucking monstrous on average. It’s one of those things that goes in the bin of “it would probably work, but if we start doing it we’ve already become the villains”.
It might work, but in the same way that it does with dogs. You might get some traits you want, but they will all be as inbred as a Bulldog. Probably would knock 15 years off average lifespan.
The more mixed up your genes are, the less likely you are to have health defects.
You’d need to start with a large enough sample and be very careful about who and how you breed them to limit damage from inbreeding. But again, it’s something that’s firmly in the “it would probably work, but if we start doing it we’ve already become the villains” bin.
The conceit and egotism of these people is laughable.
Is a complete lack of self awareness heritable? Are they going to breed a race of super clueless whities with bad eyesight?
Yes! Produce more slaves for our overlords, or the world will end!
They’re producing exclusively Boss Babies
I haven’t read the article. Maybe they were just saying “more children are needed and we’re doing our part”. I’m not sure of this is really about them being arrogant. It could be either or.
I haven’t read the article
Maybe they were just saying
I’m not sure
It could be either or
If only there was a way to find the information you’re missing
I have now read the article (which OP didn’t link to), and it does indeed seem like this narrative was unfounded and I was right. I could not find any support for eugenics in the article, and the interviewees even spoke against it explicitly.
You should read the article yourself, it’s actually quite insightful.
Pronatalism is supported by Elon Musk and Peter Thiel which should raise alarm bells. Not to mention the links to other conservative techbro movements.
If they didn’t want to be associated with something that has shades of eugenics, they might have chosen a different name for their philosophy.
Oh hey looks like we found one of their Lemmy accounts if you are bending over that far backward to defend something you apparently have not even read about.
You don’t have to go out of your way to defend things that are putting a nice veneer on eugenics.
And for the record, if you read the article it’s clearly about them being arrogant and generally absolutely fucking weird. “If more people like us don’t have children, the world will stop seeing innovation and economic prosperity. It’s very important that the right people reproduce.”
“If more people like us don’t have children, the world will stop seeing innovation and economic prosperity. It’s very important that the right people reproduce.”
I have now read the article, and what you just quoted is nowhere to be found. I would really like to know where you found the text you quoted.
In fact, neither the article nor the interviewees defended eugenics, at all. They even addressed the issue explicitly near the end of the text.
I’m not defending these people, or saying that they are saints, but there was no indication that they were supporting eugenics. To the contrary, they spoke against it.
Actions speak louder than words. There is nothing particularly wrong with eugenics in itself; it is how some people choose to carry it out that becomes questionable. When eugenics is used to propagate racist or dumb ideas.
These guys are a real trip. They screen, select & hand-pick embryos (that is eugenics). But then they turn around & claim they’re not eugenicists, because “they’re not racist” (???). Cool story, bro? But you’re eugenicists.
Imagine, if you will, your friend loudly says he HATES peppermint ice cream. Peppermint ice cream is so terrible. He orders vanilla. He takes out a bag of peppermints, hits them with a hammer, and rolls each spoonful of vanilla ice cream in the crushed peppermint bits. That’s…that’s peppermint ice cream. You claim you don’t like it, but took multiple, direct actions that resulted in peppermint ice cream, which you are enjoying. 🤨 These people are weird AF.
There is nothing particularly wrong with eugenics in itself; it is how some people choose to carry it out that becomes questionable. When eugenics is used to propagate racist or dumb ideas.
This makes several assumptions not supported by science. Eugenics presupposes that genetics alone is a significantly large factor influencing traits like intelligence and “predisposition to criminality” that you can just selectively breed humans like farm animals and thus improve the whole population over time.
If you dig deep enough into the history and science, that’s not necessarily true, and even to the extent it is is fucking complicated. It ignores or discounts environmental factors, cultural norms, and probably more I’m not thinking of atm.
Picking general intelligence, however that’s defined, eugenics says you need to get two highly intelligent people to produce offspring and thier children will automatically be smart. In reality they might have an edge, but that edge can be lost if the kids aren’t provided with a stable home environment, healthcare so they can thrive, high-quality education, etc. It doesn’t mean shit if your kid is the next Einstein according to an IQ test (which are fraught with problems by themselves) if they can’t read.
The topic is higly debated by people much more educated than I who spend thier whole lives studying the topic. I’d encourage you or anyone interested to do some reading on the subject from actual experts (which I, for the record, am not) with backgrounds in genetics and especially anthropology. “The Myth Of Race” by Robert Sussman was an incredibly eye-opening book for me personally that obviously focuses most on race but eugenics gets covered too.
I think we are more or less in agreement. 🙂 I focus almost exclusively on the ‘strictly physical’ side of eugenics, cross-breeding & GMO but for humans. I see people who are fucked up, carry horrible genes, have undesirable physical traits. Sometimes they even mix & match with others that have bad genes/traits, and sometimes they even know bad things could happen…then their offspring has bad physical traits or medical problems & they’re all shocked pikachu face. How could this happen?! Well, because Mommy and/or Daddy are fucked up. And yeah that weird heart defect got passed down. Sickle cell anemia, passed down. Things of a physical nature. Good inputs, probably good outputs. Known bad inputs, hey…let’s not be shocked when there are bad outputs.
Intelligence, character traits, waters get significantly murkier. That’s just not how I think (because enough of it, I believe, is wrong). And I think this cringey couple overestimates their intellectual capacity. They might get A plusses on tests, but the way they’re interacting with the ‘real world’ displays a general lack of awareness, mental illness, & I think there’s some Main Character Syndrome at play.
Fair enough. I took your original comment a certain way, probably cause the way it sounded is the way a significant potion of the population thinks. Physical variation is a much more understood (and less dangerous) thing too.
They “spoke out against it” while saying and doing things that are literally the definition of positive eugenics.
“In other words, positive eugenics is aimed at encouraging reproduction among the genetically advantaged, for example, the eminently intelligent, the healthy, and the successful. Possible approaches include financial and political stimuli, targeted demographic analyses, in vitro fertilization, egg transplants, and cloning.”
I actually quite like the idea that Humanity will survive as a result of these weird cunts and their breeding programme; but only as a race of subterranean mole people with too poor eyesight for the surface world.
No, you’re thinking of the Morlocks. These idiots will obviously be the Elois.
We need miners that can work without light since the power is needed for generative AI.
Please explain who the hell are these freaks, just read the wiki page
T’fuck is this about?
As if thousands of others aren’t? Forget about the thousand other red flags, why even post this bullcrap?
Really going for the “stereotype of myself” look there.
