Moving out of LBZ doesn’t mean we’re not a pro-trans community anymore. As far as moderation goes, nothing is changing. If we see an influx of transphobes or bad actors, we’ll do the same thing we’ve always done and simply ban them.

Basically it’s “vibes”, that’s the only explanation the 196 mods intend to give us

see here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20937206/12464713

looks like the main “ideological” differences are about what counts as violations and how to deal with them:

a 196 mod said:

sometimes we’ll see people getting banned or comments getting removed for relatively mild takes. We also often disagreed about the severity of the actions, like ban lengths being way too long considering the reason, or people getting banned over something that really should just be a removal.

part of Ada’s response:

every post and user I removed was due to queerphobia, transphobia, trolling or spam, issues that broke the instances rules. Some of that bigotry was was implicit rather than explicit, like dog whistles, tone policing etc. Some of it was the “just asking questions” transphobia that pervades most corporate owned social media spaces. … As moss said, this is ideological differences in how low grade transphobia and queerphobia should be dealt with. moss is ok with community pushback for the low grade stuff rather than moderation, whereas I’ll just remove it.

Absolutely not. Our rules aren’t changing and neither is the mod team. Our top priority is, and always will be, cultivating a community where queer people of all flavors feel welcome and safe.

Every single post on the “new” community is from a .world user. Maybe its time for me to block all of .world, it was pretty clear from the start that .world is predatory but this just makes me even more sure. They can have fun over there with their meta/threads federation lol

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You people should just get back the original one

or we could get new moderators to ask for control of this comm

Absolutely foul decision. From the recent discussions i think it was very clear that the actual regular users and posters of 196 were opposed to moving to .world. What a clown show of a mod team.

Yeah, exactly, what the fuck?

care to elaborate on this “worsening” ?

Good point, I even forgot about that

I think I sort of understand what they meant when they talked about narratives, although I interpret it as being extremely naïve. Sure, it’s true that people often only defend one narrative because it’s the only one they know, and haven’t been exposed to other ones (or at least in a way where they actually thought critically about it and haven’t just refuted the “new” perspective on first sight). But it’s extremely unrealistic to think that people will change their opinion due to a couple of comments on the Internet (specially when people have joked for years that disscussions on the Internet never go anywhere). Not just that, but by saying that you want people to be able to voice other narratives and not specifying if those include things like hate speech (even if you thought of not including those), you’re scaring the shit out of marginalized communities that use the platform, which get a lot of hate every day and just want places in the Internet where they can chill and not have to worry about that sort of stuff. I honestly think that there is a misunderstanding of what the admins meant with that, I think that they don’t really intend to endanger their marginalized users (although I could just be interpreting this wrongly, you never know)… But even if they wanted to, it wouldn’t really matter for us, as it would just make the job harder for the 196 mods, who, expectably, will keep on moderating as they always did, keeping TERFs, homophobes and other haters away from this lovely community (, right? riiiiiight???).

…and I would just say this if LW admins weren’t so open to federating with Meta products. Even if we ignore how shitty Meta is as a company, federating with them would bring very little advantages to the table (like, idk, being able to follow some friends and family, and some famous people, and talking with them to some capacity without a Meta account, but still having to follow Meta’s ToS obviously), but lots of disadvantages instead (not much more adhesion to the Fediverse because people will keep on using Meta’s products anyways; possible “embrace, extend, extinguish” from Meta, which could really damage the Fediverse; Meta possibly involving themselves in some of the Fediverse projects, which could result in them “steering the wheel” as they see fit; and most importantly, spreading the Fediverse’s moderation resources thin, due to a way larger influx of users and Meta’s shitty moderation). I’m not mad by people who want to federate with Meta, as it sounds really cool to federate with a bunch more people and present to them the wonderful world of the Fediverse. I’m just a bit let down because those people won’t realize that things will barely be as cool as they sound once they try federating with Meta.

A single drawn out argument over a not even that controversial mod decision. Very sad that the blahaj admins allowed this mod to fuck over this whole community for no good reason and against the will of basically the entirety of this community.

sorry for anticlimacting the angry mood but the angry faces made me want to hug u >v<

It’s weird - you and I have never interacted, and we’re usually engaging in totally different discussions in the fediverse, but every time I see a post from you my first thought is “We must protect Smorty at all costs. If Smorty stops posting, the fediverse has lost its way.”

#makesmortyhappyagain

I did feel like we grew a little bit bigger than made sense on blahaj.zone. the instance feed was 90% our community and I could absolutely see that suffocating smaller ones trying to get started here.